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Love is more than you think.
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A woman becomes a best-selling novelist by writing more than 100 books about her first romance.
Find out more about Brenda Jackson’s books here.
This episode contains adult material.
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Episode 58: Always Tomorrow

In 1983, Nelson Sullivan picked up a video camera and started filming everything – going to nightclubs in New York City, shopping at the grocery store, even waiting for a flight at the airport. "He became the narrator of his own life story.”
Special thanks to Kino Library for for letting us share audio from Nelson Sullivan’s videos. You can watch more of Nelson Sullivan’s work on YouTube.
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Episode 57: Nelson’s Camera

Delia Ephron has worked on some of the most famous romantic comedies of all time – like Sleepless in Seattle, and You’ve Got Mail – alongside her sister, Nora Ephron. In You’ve Got Mail, two people fall in love over email. Decades after writing that screenplay, Delia Ephron found herself in the middle of a very similar story. “I really did think I’d fallen into my own romantic comedy.”
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Episode 56: You've Got Mail

Last November, George Linnane found himself at the bottom of a hole, deep inside a cave. He was badly injured after falling more than two stories. And the only people who could rescue him were his friends in the caving community. "If somebody is in trouble, we all know that we're the only ones who can get them out."
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Episode 55: The Rescue

Grace Young remembers her parents were obsessed with food growing up — they went shopping every day for groceries and every night they cooked traditional Cantonese dishes for dinner. She started to learn to cook when she was young, but not from her parents. She learned from Julia Child. “She was a little jolly. She was always in a good mood. I was fascinated by what she was cooking. None of it was familiar to me. I didn’t know what a soufflé was or brioche or croissants, but she was just so appealing to me.”
Today, Grace is known as the Stir Fry Guru, and she’s written three cookbooks about Chinese cooking.
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Episode 54: Grace and Julia

Meredith Goldstein started giving her mother dating advice when she was a teenager, and today she offers people advice as the author of the Love Letters column for The Boston Globe. She says: “My favorite letters are breakup letters because it doesn't matter who you are – if you have been dumped, it is awful."
Meredith Goldstein’s podcast is Love Letters. 
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Episode 53: Desperate In Rockland

Michael Packard makes a living fishing off the coast of Cape Cod. He catches mostly tuna and mackerel. He drags for clams. And for three months every summer, he dives for lobsters. "It's an extremely dangerous profession. I think about it a lot, but I try not to. I can't dwell on it,” he told us. “You know, this is what I love. It's a different world down there. It’s a whole different world." Last summer, he had an astonishing encounter with a whale. Two weeks later he was back in the water. 
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Episode 52: In the Mouth of the Whale

When Margaret Dugan was 17, she ate lunch most days at a place called Little Venice where a young Domenico DeMarco would sing while he made pizza. “He would always be singing. And he had a beautiful voice,” she told us. Eventually, he asked her out on a date. At their wedding in 1965, she had no idea she was marrying the man who’d later be called “The Godfather of Pizza.” Today, a look at the man and the marriage behind the famous Di Fara Pizza. 
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Episode 51: The Pizza Maker

As a teenager, Kendra James had a crush on the actor Orlando Bloom. She decorated her room with pictures of him, she wrote stories imagining a romance with him, and she joined a message board dedicated entirely to him. 
One day, someone on the message board had an idea to make contact with Orlando Bloom himself. 
Kendra James’s book is Admissions: A Memoir Of Surviving Boarding School.
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Episode 50: A Crush

Evan Woodard explores the city of Baltimore from underneath. He searches for things buried underground—things that some people might consider trash. We decided to go to Baltimore and join him on a dig.
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Episode 49: Beneath the City

Nnenna and Phil met on a friend’s front porch in Carrboro, North Carolina in 1978. “It felt like I was meeting someone that I had known, but forgot that I knew,” she says. “It just was magic.” 
You can listen to Nnenna’s podcast, Great Grief, here.
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Episode 48: The Freelons

A few months ago, Frank Dumas won his 4th grade class spelling bee. And then he just kept winning.
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Episode 47: Frank Goes to the Spelling Bee

Many years ago, Cathy Raven decided to build herself a small house on a large piece of land in rural Montana. She’s said, “I saw myself alone in the furthest future that I could imagine.”
Then a red fox began to arrive, at the same time every day. 
Cathy Raven’s book is The Fox and I: An Uncommon Friendship.
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Episode 46: The Visitor

When artist Wilfrid Wood was looking for new people to draw, he got an idea - and put a call out for models on Grindr. When Theo Adamson saw Wilfrid's profile, he says “it just caught me in the right moment as being up for trying something new.”
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Episode 45: Seeing and Being Seen

There’s a strange book from 1934 called Cain’s Jawbone that's "not for the faint-hearted.” It’s part puzzle, part murder mystery. And it’s only been solved three times.
You can find the book here.

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Episode 44: Cain's Jawbone

Dillon Helbig is 8 years old. He's been writing books since he was 5. One day, he decided he wanted to see his book on the shelf in a library.
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Episode 43: The Adventures of Dillon Helbig

Dessa spent the better part of two decades in love with the same person. They’d broken up and gotten back together over and over again. And even once they were broken up for good, she couldn’t give up hope that they still had a future. She says she felt kind of stuck. And so she started planning an experiment—part science project, part art project—to try to fall out of love.
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Episode 42: The Brain in Love

In 2015, Kate Bowler was diagnosed with stage IV cancer. She was 35. “The chronic nature of what I had really lent itself to people wanting to openly explain why I was suffering. Was it something I ate? Was it something I did spiritually? Like, who’s at fault here? You know, maybe everything doesn’t happen for a reason.” 
Today, she says, “One of the only things that really cuts through all the noise is surprising and ridiculous joy.”
She’s the author of Everything Happens For A Reason: And Other Lies I’ve Loved and No Cure for Being Human (And Other Truths I Need to Hear). 
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Episode 41: Finding Joy

“On the last day of the world, I would want to plant a tree.” 
A story about people coming together, willing to try something. 
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Episode 40: Grandfather of the Forest

"I began to think: ‘Oh, my gosh. Everyone was against me dropping out of college, marrying a complete stranger, and moving to New York. Perhaps they may have been on to something.’”
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Episode 39: Can I Speak to David?

Tami is a sharpie, and Ed is her cap. After all these years, marriage has left an indelible mark. 
Listeners of this show know that from the very beginning, we’ve wanted to highlight unconventional stories of love. Oftentimes, not romantic love. What we have for you today is one of the strangest and funniest conversations we’ve heard in a long time. 
Everything is Alive is hosted and created by Ian Chillag. You can find more episodes at https://www.everythingisalive.com/. 
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Episode 38: Tami & Ed, Sharpie

"History was dependent upon people like me remembering." A conversation with Betty Reid Soskin, shortly before her 100th birthday.
Betty Reid Soskin’s book is Sign My Name to Freedom.
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Episode 37: What Gets Told

When Shigeru Yabu was a little boy he made a new friend in an unexpected place. “That bird walked up my arm all the way to my shoulder, and we looked at each other, eye to eye.”
Shigeru Yabu’s book is Hello Maggie!
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Episode 36: The Magpie of Heart Mountain

In October of 2006, a press conference was held at a hospital in Denver. During the press conference, a man asked if anyone watching could tell him who he was, or how he got there. Because he didn’t know.
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Episode 35: My Penny

On today's episode: Home recordings, people recording their friends, neighbors, and strangers — for a look at how we live, and who we are, by listening closely. Featuring a 5-year-old Sofia Coppola, and Patti Smith before she recorded her first album. 
Lost & Found Sound is the work of Nikki Silva and Davia Nelson, also known as The Kitchen Sisters. No one makes radio like the Kitchen Sisters. As Tom Waits put it, “Lost & Found Sound is beyond description.” 
You can find more of the Kitchen Sisters' recordings at http://www.kitchensisters.org/. 
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Episode 34: Lost and Found

On August 28th, 2000, Danny Stewart got on the subway to meet his boyfriend Pete Mercurio for dinner in New York City. As he was exiting the station, he noticed something on the ground. It looked like a baby doll wrapped in a shirt. And then he saw the doll's legs move.
Pete Mercurio's book is Our Subway Baby.
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Episode 33: On the Way to Dinner

One day in the spring of 1986, a woman in Hot Springs, Arkansas named Ruth Coker Burks was visiting a friend in the hospital. She noticed a door down the hall that had a red tarp over it, and the nurses were avoiding the room. So she decided to sneak in.
Ruth Coker Burks’ book is All The Young Men.
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Episode 32: Among the Oak Trees

Our favorite story, for anyone who might be feeling a little lost. 
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Episode 31: Something Large and Wild

In June of 2020, a 72-year-old man in the UK named Gerald Stratford posted a photograph of himself in his garden on Twitter. He wrote, “Just giving my onions their daily inspection, a crucial time now for veg.” The tweet, like many of Gerald Stratford’s tweets, went viral. Gerald told us he never expected so many people to like his tweets about his garden, but that he just tries to be nice and polite and so far, people like it. 
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Episode 30: Cheers

When Carlos Acosta was a kid, he wanted to be the next Michael Jackson. He spent all his time break-dancing in the streets of Havana. Until one day, when his father decided to put Carlos in a ballet class. 
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Episode 29: The Dancer

Early one morning in 1948, a phone call woke up the police chief in the small town of Clearwater, Florida. The caller said he’d seen something strange at the beach. Residents woke up that morning to find an odd set of footprints in the sand, and a rumor began circulating that Clearwater Beach had a sea monster.
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Episode 28: The Clearwater Monster

There’s an old story on Cape Cod about a woman named Maria Hallett who fell in love with a pirate. According to legend, when he died at sea, she became so heartbroken that she started walking along the cliffs in storms and cursing other ships. The story goes that she believed that if she had lost the person she loved to the sea, everyone else should too. She became known as “The Sea Witch of Billingsgate,” and her story has haunted Cape Cod for the last 300 years. 
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Episode 27: He Left in a Storm, He’ll Return in a Storm

Bernard Kinsey met Shirley Pooler in 1963, when they were both students at Florida A&M University, after a protest to integrate the movie theaters in Tallahassee. Years later, when their son Khalil was born, Bernard and Shirley made a plan — they wanted him to understand where he came from, and where his ancestors came from. So they decided to become detectives, uncovering the history of the Black experience in America. 
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Episode 26: The Kinseys

We're thrilled to announce that This is Love is coming back with our 5th season on October 14th!
Tell a friend to subscribe today! Thank you for listening to our first four seasons, and we truly can't wait for you to hear what's ahead.
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The Most Persistent Mystery

Meet a woman who decided to devote her life to the wild birds of New York City, and a Los Angeles man who formed a once-in-a-lifetime friendship. 
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Episode 25: City Birds

In June of 2016, Dion Leonard attempted one of the toughest races in the world—155 miles through the Gobi Desert. At the start of day two, he looked down and saw a little brown dog chewing on his shoes. Dion and the little dog were about to embark on an adventure that would change both of their lives. 
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Episode 24: Gobi

The B-15 iceberg in Antarctica was the largest iceberg in recorded history. Explorer Jill Heinerth wanted to see what it looked like from the inside. She assembled a team of the most accomplished divers in the world, and they traveled for 12 days through the rough waters of the Southern Ocean. Attempting to dive into cracks in the iceberg, her life was in very real danger three times. And the third time, she would be saved by an animal so small, so transparent, that you can see its heart beating right through its skin. Jill Heinerth’s book is Into the Planet. 
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Episode 23: Into the Ice

When Drew Lanham was a child, he used to lie down in a field and play dead, just so he could get a glimpse of vultures flying over him. He made binoculars out of toilet paper rolls, and wings out of cardboard. He loved birds. But when he went to college, he says "I was trying to live up to the expectations of others who said, ‘you're a black kid who's good at math and science.’” So he studied engineering, and was miserable. And then, one day he heard the call of a Prairie Warbler. 
Drew Lanham’s book is The Home Place: Memoirs of a Colored Man’s Love Affair with Nature.
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Episode 22: Prairie Warbler

When Kayleigh Davis saw Kyler Bourgeous' profile on a dating app, she liked that he loved the outdoors as much as she did. But what really stood out is that he said he'd survived a bison attack. So, Kayleigh messaged him, and asked to hear the story. And then, something impossible happened. 
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Episode 21: Antelope Island

Michael Hingson was on the 78th floor of the North Tower of the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001. He says the first indication that something was wrong was the sound of a muffled explosion. Then the building began to tilt, and he felt the floor drop like an elevator. But Michael Hingson didn’t panic because his guide dog, Roselle, was calm.
Michael Hingson's book is Thunder Dog. 
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Episode 20: Roselle and Michael

We go searching for wolves in Yellowstone, and learn about the dramatic and surprisingly relatable relationship between a powerful young wolf and the small, elderly wolf who had raised him.
We’re trying something new. Two stories about the same family of wolves in Yellowstone. One is a love story, and one is a crime story. For the crime story, check out Episode 137 of Criminal. It’s called Wolf 10. apple.co/2JBu7uR
Rick McIntyre's book is The Rise of Wolf 8: Witnessing the Triumph of Yellowstone's Underdog.
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Episode 19: The Wolves

All new stories, starting April 1. Stories about animals and the wild, and what happens when we take time to look around us. 
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Looking for Wolves

One day Franco Magnani picked up a paintbrush.
You can see some of Franco’s paintings on his website.
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Episode 18: The Memory Artist

At 43, Anna Bonavita had given up on finding love. But sometimes it’s worth the wait.
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Episode 17: Anna and Massimo

We visit a place where the “black sheep” of the Guggenheim family went to be free.
Francine Prose’s book is Peggy Guggenheim: The Shock of the Modern.
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Episode 16: Everything Floats

We visit an ancient place where cats have taken over.
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Episode 15: Silvia and the Cats

We visit a city in Northern Italy where everyone decided to stay quiet to save something beautiful.
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Episode 14: The Town That Stayed Quiet

We visit a place where it's good to be ugly. With Club dei Brutti's permission, we've created an Ugly Club pin for This is Love listeners. Get yours here (https://cottonbureau.com/products/ugly-club-pin) or pick one up at the club's HQ in Piobbico.
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Episode 13: Ugly Club

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Andiamo!

More than 40 years ago, a man moved to an abandoned mining town to be alone. He says that there are days in the winter "when it's so quiet that the noisiest thing is the snow hitting your jacket."
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Episode 12: How to Be Alone

In 1983, Susan Rogers moved thousands of miles from home to work with her favorite artist in the world: Prince. "He was unlike any human I'd ever known,” she says. A story about making remarkable things, together.
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Episode 11: Nothing Compares to You

The story of a color marked by effort and desire.
For more, check out Carol Mavor's book, Blue Mythologies.
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Episode 10: Blue

A story about moving at your own pace.
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Episode 9: One in a Million

A woman finds a mysterious message in a bottle, and becomes consumed with finding out who wrote it and why.
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Episode 8: Message in a Bottle

An experiment in living together, forever.
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Episode 7: How to Live Forever

We're very excited to announce that Season Two is coming November 14th! Here’s a sneak peek.
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We're Back

"People wanted to put him up for sainthood because he married me, like he'd made the ultimate sacrifice."
Special thanks to Pop Up Magazine.
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Episode 6: What Are We Going To Do

Nino and Drew kept their relationship a secret for more than 40 years. And then, they decided to do something that forced them into the spotlight.
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Episode 5: A Private Life

This episode was released in March of 2018. 
In June of 2020, Van Nolintha stepped down from his roles at Bida Manda and Brewery Bhavana, following allegations of inappropriate behavior toward staff, and negligence in addressing staff allegations of abuse against Bida Manda and Brewery Bhavana management. An investigation is pending. 
A story about finding your way home.
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Episode 4: Eight Thousand Miles

A woman becomes a best-selling novelist by writing 120 books about her first romance.
This episode contains adult material.
Selected books by Brenda Jackson: Tonight and Forever (formerly Always Tomorrow)
Cupid’s Bow
Strictly Business
Fire and Desire
Slow Burn
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Episode 3: Always Tomorrow

An unconventional love story about a teenager, the Pacific Ocean, and an encounter with something wild. 
Grayson, by Lynne Cox
Lynne's latest is Swimming in the Sink.
You can find more about Lynne at her website: http://www.lynnecox.com/
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Episode 2: Something Large and Wild

In 1971, David Alexander went for a run in Central Park and started talking to a stranger. For our first episode of This Is Love, a story about what's possible when we bet everything on each other.
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Episode 1: The Run

Some spiders eat their young, and some eat their parents. Love is never simple. From the makers of the award-winning podcast Criminal, This is Love investigates life’s most persistent mystery. Stories of sacrifice, obsession, and the ways in which we bet everything on one another.
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