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Accidental Tech Podcast

Three nerds discussing tech, Apple, programming, and loosely related matters.

Marco Arment, Casey Liss, John Siracusa


Pre-show: Siri AI foibles


The High Line

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Follow-up:


Fineliner

Fineliner 🤝🏻 ATP Graffiti shirt (via Nick Foster)


Download for use in Fineliner (in Fineliner’s settings, Font, Import Profile; note that this will overwrite your icons and avatar, too)
Palm Vx
PalmOS emulator

Why Overcast Radio LLC?

MacBook PROLED


Allison points out some dimensional errors on our part
You can completely turn off the touch screen (via Gui Rambo)
Pinch-to-zoom
Glowing Apple logo implementation software details
Avoiding keyboard marks with a microfiber keyboard dust cover (via Keith Huss)
Rounded corners (via Jeff)


Video

Reimar Servas show us why rounded corners are bad (via Marcin Wichary)

iPhone Duo


iPhone Duo will welcome you… sometimes? (YouTube timestamp link to 1m15s)
Crackgate


Andy Ihnatko notes Crackgate is a thing
Jay Peters at The Verge with a statement from Apple
CuriousHagi on YouTube (via Terrence O’Brien at The Verge)

Inner case with and without matte protector on JerryRigEverything (YouTube timestamp link to 6m45s)


Hinge is an ingress point for sand (10m35s)

iFixit Teardown
Two batteries are listed separately in Settings
iPhone Mirroring is outer-screen only (via Stephen Robles) (YouTube timestamp link to 42s)
Unlocking using the meat of your right index finger (via Sam Shepherd)
Reachability is coming in iOS 27.3


Phil Schiller’s long goodbye

…and Ternus’s long hello
…and Tim’s long goodbye
Apple Leadership

Post-show: Marco’s iPhones Duo
Members-only ATP Overtime: Some fan-made tools for ATP listeners


ATP Titles by Cole Orton

Quiz

ATP Thingy Finder
Transcript search sites


CatATP

Chapter art

ATP Search by Marcos Huerta
ATP Transcripts by Roger Goldfinger
Podsearch by David Smith



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716: Take the Null


Pre-show: Marco has a new toy


Stock checker

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iPhone Duo first impressions


Stephen Robles’s shortcut

New Apple announcements


Monday: iPad Mini
Tuesday: M6 iMac
Tuesday: M6 MacBook Pro
Wednesday: OLED MacBook Pro

Launch video
Advertisement
🚨 THE LID LIGHT IS BACK! 🚨
Stephen Levy at Wired
Design for Touch on Mac

Mac Studio with 512 GB RAM

Post-show: Marco’s new app, Fineliner

Parakeet

Members-only ATP Overtime: Is Apple re-entering the server market??


Macworld: Apple may revive Xserve for the AI market
The Information
Gurman responds on Twitter


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715: Diner Lobster


Pre-show: 


John’s of Bleecker
Marco and Casey at John’s

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HomeView


When was the HomeView hardware created?
Is it expensive? (via Paul Heering)


Amazon Echo Show 5: $99
Amazon Echo Show 8: $199
Amazon Echo Show 11: $249
Amazon Echo Show 15: $349

Wall-mount & regular HomeView pricing


Is it to prevent cheapskates? (via mvk)
Is it to prevent add-on dinguses (via Ben O’Matic)

Knock-offs coming soon?
Turns out, Jimmy is that guy. 😏
Phone screen vs. Duo screen
Will Marco be adding CarPlay support? (via Rick Allen)

Apple TV


Price history


March, 2015: Apple lowers the price from $99 → $69 (timestamp link to 10m14s)
Glenn Fleishman’s chart

Microphones and HomePods
AV1 (via Michael Barnes et al)


Reddit feature comparison

What is “audio passthrough” (via Andrew Haglund)


Explainer from Caleb Denison


The iPhone Duo has a replaceable cover layer

Interview with Kate Bergeron


iPhone Duo Creator Showcase
iPhone Duo preorder experience
iPhone Duo reviews


MKBHD
HTX Studio
Tim Pan
Joanna Stern
Nilay Patel & Allison Johnson
Gruber
John also brought up Computer Chronicles

Apple “Pro and Tell” event next week
Post-show: Marco has something to share


ATP Diamond Dogs: Talk Me Out of It II
The thing Marco shared

🚨 You will want to click this after Marco introduces it, but before John talks about his experience! 🚨


Members-only ATP Overtime: The people holding up the internet

XKCD 2347


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714: Get the Bigger Pizza


Apple’s New Home-Related Products


HomeView

Newsroom
iMac G4
Intro video
TV commercial
Schneider press release
Wired’s review
WWDC 2026: Rev Up Your CarPlay App
Developer agreement
“HomeView” & “homeOS”

Apple TV 4K gen 4

Nvidia Shield TV
Newsroom
Intro video
MacRumors Buyer’s Guide
New Siri Remote

Precision finding requirements


HomePod mini 2

Newsroom
Intro video

Home collection

Newsroom
MacRumors
(See also the Schneider press release above)


Post-show: Casey got a UTR-LR

UTR
Flex Mini

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Ricky Mondello’s response
Scott Helme’s response


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713: I Have Medium Hopes


Pre-show: Marco tries a Waymo
Follow-up:


Casey’s MyBMW foibles


iMazing
Approov

BMW case study

Screen sharing
OBD-II
Home Assistant + Pushover + Shortcuts? (via Khaos Tian)
GL.iNet Comet Q
PiKVM
Lex Friedman: Claude writes code; I author the apps

AirPower desk video was by HTX Studio


…who previously interviewed Tim Cook! (via Elijah Yap)
Original video (via Adeiko)

Ubiquiti home Wi-Fi vs. Eero


Previously on ATP Overtime
A positive anecdote
A negative anecdote

FiOS CableCARD discontinuation


RecDiffs #295: If I Adjust for Europe

TiVo’s desperation
One-AirPod vs. two-AirPod audio settings

Settings → Accessibility → AirPods → your AirPods

M6/A20 Pro details


High Yield & SemiAnalysis video on A20 Pro

Timestamp link to cores discussion @ 9m37s

High Yield & SemiAnalysis video on the M6 vs. M5

Timestamp link to M6 layout discussion @ 8m9s
Timestamp link to core images @ 12m40s
Timestamp link to A20 vs. M6 core comparison @ 9m37s



Rumored October event

See also, new home trinkets?

Updates to Full Disk Access in macOS

Jason Aten on Muse reading his iMessages
Meta calls foul

Post-show: Casey and Marco go Phishing


Q Barbecue
Capital Ale House
Allianz Ampitheater
Setlist
Recording
Cupertino’s
iPhone Duo 3D-printing model (you want the variant labeled “Fixed the large black areas showing through.”)

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Disco Demo video
John’s review of Delicious Library from 2004
Maslow’s hierarchy of needs


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712: Mildly Technologically Traumatized


Pre-show: Marco has M6 performance numbers
🗣️ It’s St. Jude time! 🗣️


Podcastathon on Friday October 2 @ noon eastern
The Marco Offset™

Follow-up:


John’s mouse pad (via Andy)


Rounded corners are, bad, maybe?
AirPower… desk? 🤨

John’s weird AirPods 5 issues
Finding Intel apps in macOS


System Settings → General → About → Intel-based Apps
Learn more…

M5 Ultra Mac Studio GPU scores
New Mac mini storage caveats
𝓍OS 27 Screen Time woes (Timestamp link to 8m50s)
iOS 27 vs. Pi-hole

dazfuller
Aaron Vegh

GM vs. CarPlay


Casey’s blog post
Casey’s mea culpa
Wait, just kidding


Apple Watch is listening…


Steve Riggins
What about “Hey, Siri”?
Nick Heer
MKBHD

Ask ATP:


What’s the highest mileage we’ve ever gotten to in a car? (via Elliot)


Saturn SL2
Nissan 300ZX
Nissan Maxima
Volvo 200 series
Honda Civic fifth-gen
Porsche IMS bearings
BMW VANOS

What is John going to do to deal with Gmail policy changes? (via Mark Bramhill)
Would Apple reuse the 2019 design for a phantom new Mac Pro? (via Ben Cooper)

Post-show: Casey tries to hack his car


Home Assistant
Wireshark
Charles Proxy
MQTT

Members-only ATP Overtime: Ternus’s “Intelligent Personal Hub” and Apple’s home AI hub


Digital Hub strategy (Timestamp link to 1h29m46s)
Intelligent personal hub
Gurman


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711: Hot Dog on an Actuator


🗣️ It’s St. Jude time! 🗣️


Podcastathon on Friday October 2 @ noon eastern
The Marco Offset™
Flying Spaghetti Monster

Follow-up:


New treats


John


iPhone 18 Pro


John’s case

AirPods 5 with Wireless Charging Case


IP57

Dust protected
Immersion, up to 1m, for 30 minutes

Oddities
Volume control


Marco


Apple Watch S12 Ceramic


Apple Watch S12 bezels are bigger than S10?

Mac mini

Casey: Apple Watch S12 Aluminum

How should Apple have handled iPhone Duo dev tools? (via Oscar Echeverri)
Photos libraries on external drives (via Larry Fieman)
Preliminary M5 Ultra GPU Geekbench scores

Chart

Apple watch “Readiness Score” seem to be mostly bunk? (via Michael Katz)

iPhone Duo dev tools released


Aaron Vegh’s video

Post-show: Marco’s Mac mini update


Ubiquiti WAN Switch
GL.iNet Comet Q and the PoE one

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Previously discussed on ATP #672: Wi Hyphen Fi
The Disappointing Truth about Wi-Fi 7
Introductory video


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710: That New Mouse Pad Feeling


🗣️ New ATP Member’s Special: ATP Insider: Show Q&A
🗣️ It’s St. Jude time! 🗣️


The Marco Offset™

Todd Vaziri on James Bond homages in the event video

Comparison video
Previously, in 2018

Making of (via Techzha)
Preliminary Geekbench scores


A20 Pro (iPhones 18 Pro)


CPU
GPU

M6


CPU
GPU

M5 Ultra


CPU


iPhone 18 Pro Max & Apple C2
Solar phone charging? 🤔 (via flanker)


Pragmatic #38: Watch This Time and Space

Aperture blades on iPhone 18 Pro / Pro Max camera


MKBHD’s review
PetaPixel’s Review
Explaining starbursts
Straight vs. rounded examples
Debate on DPReview forums

iPhones 18 Pro Face ID (YouTube timestamp link to 13m34s)
iPhone Duo


How will iPhone Mirroring work?
No Action Button 💔
The Duo does have a split keyboard
An aside about our enthusiasm for the Duo
Ternus & Joz interview part 1 & part 2

Thomas Ricker at The Verge

Stephen Robles insights


iPhone side-dock example
MagSafe accessories will be… tough

A Face ID complication (via Pedro Fernandes)
Apple Pencil support


USB-C Apple Pencil not Pencil Pro
Gruber
Steve Troughton-Smith

Fake bezel


Benjamin Mayo at 9to5Mac
Demo video (Twitter link)


iOS 27 doesn’t include automated password changing
Photos libraries on external drives (via Mike Brogan & Jason Snell)
Optimize Storage (via Jason Snell & Fabrice Neuman)
John’s cheap S3 setup


Configuration
CLI invocation:
aws s3api put-bucket-lifecycle-configuration \
--bucket my-cool-bucket-name \
--lifecycle-configuration file:///Users/yourusername/Desktop/s3-lifecycle.json \
--transition-default-minimum-object-size varies_by_storage_class

_DavidSmith on iPhone Air & 17e sales

Gruber’s breakdown

iPhone 17: 36.5%
iPhone 17 Pro Max: 29.9%
iPhone 17 Pro: 29.4%
iPhone 17e: 2.5%
iPhone Air: 1.5%


Post-show: John needed Marco’s 3D printer


Oyen Digital MiniPro RAID V4 Dual-Bay
Modesty panel
Command Strips

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709: Steel-Cable Insurance


🗣️ It’s St. Jude time! 🗣️


The Marco Offset™

September 2026 event

MacRumors on the cellular chips
SynthID Standard
Apple Audio Intelligence Privacy Overview
Surface Duo
PowerBook Duo
Rafa’s toot about layouts
Apple Developer Videos

Post-show: Jetty update
Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s new business terms in the EU

Ben Thompson’s breakdown
Gruber’s take
Adrian Weckler at Irish Independent


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708: Primary, Tertiary, and Third Cousin


🗣️ It’s St. Jude time! 🗣️


The Marco Offset™

Follow-up:


Luz fooled me, Jerry!

Extremely convincing fake by Daniel Luz
Mea culpa

Apple fooled us all
Siri blobs fix


System Settings → Screen Time → Content & Privacy → Content & Privacy (turn the switch on) → Siri → Writing Assistance (turn the switch off)

John is happy with new Macs timetable
Are photo libraries on external disks supported?


Knowledge base
Iris

Yankees / Sox in Apple Vision Pro

Dithering

Motivations for SME adoption (via shac ron)

✅ Tim Cook exit interview


AT 688: A Company Man at 1h8m29s (Overcast timestamp link)

Phil takes another step toward the door

Emma Roth at The Verge
Phil on ATP #317: We’re Customers Too

iPhone 17 / 17 Pro / 17 Pro max / Air Exit interviews
iPhone event preview
Post-show: John’s storage update


Backblaze B2
Amazon S3

Members-only ATP Overtime: Ternus & the Vision Pro


10 May: Mark Gurman
3 June: Juli Clover at MacRumors
21 August: Gurman
30 August: Gurman


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707: Haunting the Campus Like a Ghost


Pre-show: Marco’s casement windows

Screen clips
Screen clips, installed (white prototypes for visibility)
TPU for AMS

🗣️ New Member’s Special: ATP Movie Club: Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind
Follow-up:


macOS 27 UI tweaks


Redesigned stoplights in β6

Video
Stoplights
Stretchy buttons

Video

Porsche 911, 996 generation

In defense of the fried egg Porsches

Turning off the Siri logo

macOS 27 got the new Preview icon

LLM determinism when temperature = 0

Write-up by Horace He
IEEE standard for Floating-Point Arithmetic

𝓍OS 27 Photos Shared Album gotchas

See also

Other people’s phones

Not sped up! All 1×!
i vs. I


Apple iPhone event announced
New Mac mini and Mac Studio

Core size comparison
SME replaces AMX in the M6


Exploratory Github Repo
AMX instruction set
SME Introduction
Hello SME
Longhorn Toot 1 and Toot 2

Marketing page section (via Daniel Luz)


Oops, it was a joke and we didn’t get it!

High Yield diagram
M3 Ultra vs. M5 Ultra vs. M5 Max
Mac mini


Video support summary from Tim Hardwick
Mac mini pricing history

…inflation-adjusted

Apple Upgrade program lease [un]availability
Gruber on pricing
Advertisement

Behind the scenes


Mac Studio


Gruber on pricing
Advertisement


John’s purchasing journey


The thing John mentioned that’s a spoiler
The accessory that’s also a spoiler

New […ish] keyboards!

MacRumors coverage
Apple Part Number: MJM4LL/A
Previously: MXK83LL/A
John’s keyboard (previously)


MMMR3LL/A
A2520


New polishing cloth!

MacRumors coverage
Copland Supply

Post-show: John’s new vibe-coded app


Front and Center
SwitchGlass
Hyperspace
DragThing
Icon

Members-only ATP Overtime: Is macOS slower than Linux when performing file system operations?


Theo Browne: Your Mac Isn’t Actually Slow, It’s MacOS Fault
Benchmark 1
Benchmark 2
Linus Torvalds on using C (timestamp link to 22m7s)


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706: No One Is Getting a Good Deal Tonight


Pre-show: Marco may have to dance with the devil

Daikin

Home Assistant integration

Home Assistant Green

Follow-up:


The OpenAI doughnut


What if it’s an eye? (via Elijah Yap)
Or perhaps red blood cell shaped? (via Chris Lawrence)


Biconcave disc


Time Capsule was to solve the laptop-backup problem
Multiple Apple IDs with the same number (via Adam Wunn)
RAMageddon


Apple gets lower display prices
Apple raises trade-in values


🎉 Unforgetful is out! 🎉


E-Mail Addresses That Would be Really Annoying to Give Out Over the Phone
Skybridge
Mac Power Users #861: Stephen Builds a New Task App

Kanban

Quitter
Forecast

AI watermarking

Steganography
How Claude’s text watermark works
Pseudorandom number generator
A wonderful visual guide
Some 3Blue1Brown homework


LLMs explained briefly

Next-word prediction probabilities

Transformers, the tech behind LLMs

Temperature gives more weight to the less-probable
Image


Gruber’s take
Some responses to Gruber


Dan Moren
Daniel Jalkut

Gruber’s reply to the rebuttals
Dithering, 14 August: “Watermarks”

I Made This


Post-show: Casey has news


CarMax
Previously on ATP…
BMW i4
San Remo Green
A Better Route Planner
EV Stupidity Checklist

Members-only ATP Overtime: Other people’s phones (based on Stephen Robles’ video)

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705: Relentless in a Gentle Way


Pre-show: Marco has a rose and thorn


Lutron Caséta Fan Control
Fanimation
Technology Connections video

Follow-up:


Marco’s favorite feedback (about Myke) was from Analog(ue) 😬


SQLite bug write-up
Blackbird

Post-show Neutral

Professional negotiators / “headhunters” are very much a thing


CarEdge (via John Siracusa)
Delivrd (via Roger Coxon)


Wall Street Journal (News+ link)

The Car Chick (via Juan Boyce)


The #1 trusted automotive expert for women and smart men

Your Car Buying Advocate (via Ian McCullough)
Two options from Colin Macdonald


Automatch Consulting
Insight Auto Consulting


Casey makes some discoveries over the last week


Justification from the midwest dealer
Ventilated seats
Laser headlights

Marco takes a spin as well

John’s passwords pro-tip
Codex Micro (via St. Chris)


Icon keys

John and Casey weep for a while about Verizon CableCARDs 😭
Backups


Time Machine has a fatal flaw (via Jonathan Dechko)
…but also a workaround (via Eric Jacobsen)


Transcend JetDrive
BaseQi Adapter

Are backups even necessary? (via Mustapha Hamoui)

Apple Upgrade


Lease agreements are between customer & financier, not the retailer (via Patch)
Apple Card also has 12 months interest-free (via Andrew Haglund)

RAMpocalypse


Apple is still trying to make fetch Chinese RAM happen
iPhone 18 Pro launch is looking… challenging
All of 2027’s memory made by the big 3 is sold out (🇹🇼 link) (via Kevin Beaumont)


New macOS & iOS 27 β5 icons


Siri
Chess
John pours one out for his homie
Keir’s observation about icon composition
Safari
Preview
Settings

Apple Watch overhaul rumors

The Casio watch everyone has (it’s small; here’s a bigger one if you want, or a more modern one with step-counting)

John’s Passwords pro tip
Post-show: John’s macOS update woes
Members-only ATP Overtime: More AI hardware rumors


Is OpenAI making a hockey puck or a doughnut?
Anthropic will design its own hardware to power Claude


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704: Past the Ternus Horizon


Pre-show: The Overcast “kicking machine”


Adam Wunn’s blog post
Previously in ATP #324: Automatic Kicking Machine

Follow-up:


Marco gives John the gift of transcript search in build #1169 [The system works! — Ed.]


Build #1172 includes Siracusa Replay Mode

Be wary of Sonos + Pi-hole or other ad blockers (via Will Smidlein)
Ubiquiti High Availability

Redundant Power Supply USP-RPS
SmartPower Cable USP-Cable

“Odd” RAM amounts (via Joe Lion)
Multiple Apple accounts (via TJ Usiyan)
Some science about Sony’s axe of PlayStation discs

SuperDuper 4

Previously in the SuperDuper blog…

Apple Upgrade Program

John Voorhees at MacStories
The Verge with example numbers
Apple Upgrade vs. iPhone Upgrade
“Restricted Mode” isn’t about this
Is it worth it? Joe Rossignol answers

macOS 26.4 adds Battery Charge Limit
Ask ATP: 


What are good backup strategies? (via Todd Vaziri)


Backblaze (former sponsor)
Tailscale (former & future sponsor)

What the heck is a Docker container? (also via Todd Vaziri)


Wizard zine


Post-show: Casey is car shopping again


Visor
AutoTempest
Bimmer.work
Driveway
Safari extension screenshot

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Codex Micro

Gruber

Quinn’s take

Stack Overflow keyboard

Rumored speaker


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703: Part of a Healthy Breakfast


Pre-show: Three old men talk about the Tickety Tocks
Follow-up:


Adam Wunn published his email as a blog post
Sharing files in Screen Sharing.app (via Ingmar Wittkau)
Video game preservation (via Jason Griffey)
Supplying power to Marco’s army of Mac minis


Ubiquiti “Shadow Mode High Availability”

An update on Passwords.app “doing the hard thing”


macOS
iOS

More clipboard changes in macOS 27

Video in question

Apple is reportedly looking to acquire AI chip companies

P. A. Semi

Apple is actually spending money on Broadcom

Hartley Charlton at MacRumors

Slate Truck price & availability announced

Previously on ATP


Apple 🤝 Ford

CarPlay is Additive

Safari on 𝑥OS 27

WWDC 2026 #204: What’s new in WebKit for Safari 27
Pie chart
A contrary take
Safari MCP server

Federico’s take


Ask ATP: 


How is Overcast transcription going? (via Pete Ottery)
How does Apple achieve “growth the hard way”? (via Elijah)


John’s theory
ATP #689
ATP #641
John on replaceable batteries
iPhone SE
TSR

How do you create a second Apple account for doing development without a different phone number? (via James)


With an aside lamenting the way Apple Stores work


Post-show: How does John pack?


InstaCrate
Shibumi

Wind Assist


Members-only ATP Overtime: New information about the iPhone 18 family


RAM
“Side RAM” on the Pros

Supposed leaked drawings

Battery capacities
Bodies


Colors

Original mockups

Thicker?



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702: Isolate the Evil


Pre-show: Marco’s Mac mini catastrophe


CyberLynk / Mac Mini Vault
The dead ATS
The proposed replacement

🗣️ New Member’s Special: ATP Tier List: Emoji
Follow-up:


Member’s Special video trimming / John’s Vibe Coded App


LosslessCut

Casey has leveled-up his Sonos experience


Previously on ATP
Version 85.01 announcement post
FAQ post

Louie Mantia makes the case for Squircle
Sony 💔 💿 


A nefarious motivation for Sony ceasing to sell games on disc (via Glen Jarvis)
CD sales are going up

Price increase corner: Apple Music edition

Chart by BasicAppleGuy
AppleCare+ too

FileMaker

In defense…


CVE
Monday.com

Marco got Robert Thompson off FileMaker after 18 years


Scratch

And a special thanks to Adam Wunn 🙌🏻


Gurman on post-Mac Pro plans
EU drops battery removal requirement for Apple Watch & AirPods

Six additional categories
The Monkey’s Paw

OLED iMacs?
Ask ATP: What does Marco (or other adults) use 3D Printers for? (via Jack Johnson)


Bambu X2D
TinkerCAD
Onshape

Post-show: How Marco fixed AirPlay in Overcast


WSOLA
F Everything, We’re Doing Five Blades

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Research paper
Extended write-up
Mechanistic interpretability
Bobby Tables


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701: I Improved My Town


Pre-show: Anniversary Corner!


catatp (see also Statistics)
Bootleg visualization

Follow-up:


Public beta check-in
Casey’s iMessage notification issue
Cache in front of CloudFlare Workers!
Apple keeps futzing with rendering of .icon files
Mac-assed Mac Apps


Steve Troughton-Smith on ChatGPT

Gruber #1
Gruber #2

Gus Mueller
Gruber

Globe key on Apple’s extended keyboards (via Philip Hofstetter)


LaunchAgent

~/Library/LaunchAgents

Casey’s former keyboard

Tina’s keyboard: MMMR3LL/A


Shouldn’t the Studio Display get a price bump? (via Brian Nehring)
Regarding skipping M6 Pro/Max/Ultra (via Anonymous)
Gurman on M𝓍 Ultra servers

Follow-out to Upgrade #627: What was is FileMaker

Agentic development

Goodbye, Maestral 🫡


Gruber

Apple Sues OpenAI

Apple Inc. vs. Liu
Chance Miller’s summary
The Verge
Gruber
Dithering
OpenAI’s response and part 2

Post-show: Casey vacation results: nerd edition


Unifi Travel Router
Formerly, GL.iNet KVM
GL Comet Q

Members-only ATP Overtime: Sony announces the end of PlayStation discs

Ars Technica
The funeral has begun
Ars Technica on library erasure
The PS6 sure sounds like a handheld


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700: A Wet Dishrag Full of Lies


Pre-show: Casey’s oops


Magic TrackPad
Magic Keyboard
Marco’s Sculpt Ergonomic Keyboard

Follow-up:


Casey may have fixed his notification problem!
Mac-“Arsed” Mac App skill (via Bart Reardon)
RAMAgeddon


Feel free to donate to St. Jude any of the money you may have saved by buying early! (via Jonathan)
Will Apple rethink unified memory given these prices? (via ShutterAperture)
Steam Machine difficulties

Interview on YouTube (Timestamp link to 12m48s)

Collusion! Well, maybe.
Would a gold Mac mini be cheaper than a spec with tons of RAM? Awax did math

We’re Fable is so back, baby

More at Ars Technica

Siri AI


No web browsing for you!
Apple removed the waitlist workaround in macOS β2
Determining what model is used (via Gui Rambo)


Revamped icons by Parakeet

Design services price list
SwitchGlass

SwitchGlass dark icon
SwitchGlass old icon

Front and Center

Front and Center old icon

Callsheet

Callsheet old icon
Jelly’s write-up
Ste Grainer
The ATP member special where we rated iOS icons

Overcast
Marco’s [REDACTED] Reminders App

Fire Island Lighthouse

Parakeet’s post about our icons

Apple adds paste protection to Terminal

Apple support document
Opera joins the party

Xcode 𝑥OS 27 & DerivedData

DevCleaner (App Store link)

Post-show: Casey is jealous of Marco


Goose
Big Modern!

Casey likes Savenger, Good2B, and Torero

Nugs
Micro Tyvek Wallet
Micro Soft Shell Wallet
Studio Neat
Casey’s fan

Members-only ATP Overtime: Should Apple create a handheld gaming platform?


Quinn Nelson’s pitch
Game Porting Toolkit 4


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699: Not the Correct Squircle


Pre-show: Who’s bored?
🗣️ New Member’s Special: ATP Dev: Mac-assed Mac Apps
Follow-up:


Nugs and Sonos
As the prophecy foretold… ☹️
Mythos is back, but Fable isn’t
Rumors about Siri AI indexing
Corrections about 8TB SSDs (via Aaron Raimist)
Price increases abound! ☹️


On the Apple TV price hike (via Chris Carley)
Steam Machine (More)
Xbox
Micron points fingers at Apple (News+ Link)


Steve Troughton-Smith’s take

Previously, in Palm Pilots



Apple asks Trump to save their 🥓

Financial Times


No M6 Pro/Max/Ultra‽

Touchscreen MacBook Pro

Intel to fabricate the M7‽

GFHK?
More reporting

New Siri


Iconography

Attraction Theory: The SiriAI Proposition
Pepsi logo redesign brand manual from 2008 (via budsNhops on Reddit)

Joanna Stern’s review
Gui Rambo’s experiment
Dan Moren
John tries to get it to understand Perl (because of course he did —Ed.)


Question 1
Question 2


Ask ATP:


Why isn’t Apple on a reliable cadence for processor releases? (via Ammar)
If we really embrace agentic coding, what would be the right choice of language for that? (via Matthew Southworth)


3Blue1Brown
Avoiding Copland 2010

Do we collect vintage computers? (via Phil Kim)


Casey:


ThinkPad 701C
ThinkPad T30

John:


eMate
Newton 2000
Trashcan



Post-show: Casey asks for technical support
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Announcement video
On the store
All Ubiquiti NAS offerings
Xserve RAID


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698: And Do What?


Pre-show: 


Casey has some fantastic news about nugs.net for Marco
Marco’s trip report


Gucci Osteria


Follow-up:


John guested on a preview of Designed in California, published as part of Upgrade #624 (also on YouTube)
Apple Intelligence 🤝 external boot disks (via Doug Weinfield)
Spotlight indexing in 𝑥OS 27


Steve Riggins notes it takes a while
Alex concurs

Apple’s AI Tech Talk 


What will Siri be capable of? (via Jochen Marschall)
Bootleg video (via sayrer)

Is Spatial Reframing in 𝑥OS 27 geographically-aware? (via Kevin Buterbaugh)
Tesla 🤝 CarPlay?


New CarPlay features (via Alec Hurdle)


WWDC session on YouTube


The US has approved a new sunscreen ingredient!

Marco’s favorite: Rohto Skin Aqua Super Moisture UV Gel

Tracking Apple’s environmental progress

TOSTracker (via Andrew Leahey)
Direct product comparisons


Example: M1 MacBook Air vs. M5 MacBook Air


Apple’s AI server infrastructure (expanding on ATP #680)


General overview (via Gui Rambo)
cloudOS job listing
How to run PCC (via Zoe Knox)


Tim Cook takes one for the Ternus (News+ link) (17 June)


Chart
South Korean chip company bonuses are creating inflation pressures
Even ChatGPT is stupefied by RAM pricing 🤭😭


We’re all trying to find the guy who did this!


25 June: Apple raises prices on Macs, iPads (News+ link)


Stephen’s tables
Gruber’s tables
Apple also raised refurbished prices 🤨
Good timing:


tmcgeary
Aaron
Greg Pierce


Ask ATP:


Why doesn’t Apple just… make its own RAM? (via Brian Webster)


Joe Lion
Blake Patterson

Is new Siri an attack vector for, say, TSA searches? (via Anonymous)

Post-show: Casey’s blog post about AI
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697: The Chart Is Terrifying


Pre-show: 


We are not dangerously capable
We convince ourselves not to pivot to video
Accidental Neutral: The Rivian R2

FYI, Marco: Casey has officially called dibs on the R3X 😈


Follow-up:


It’s Road Trip (via Jason Paul)
Indexing for the new Spotlight
Passwords app does the hard thing
macOS 27


“Golden Gate” was the codename for macOS Big Sur… and eWorld 1.1

Microsoft Bob

You can use Touch ID for Administrator access
There’s a way to skip the Siri waitlist (via Steve Troughton-Smith)


sudo defaults write "/Library/Preferences/FeatureFlags/Domain/GenerativeModels.plist" "EnhancedSiriWaitlist" -dict-add Enabled -bool NO

ST-S points out the change in Apple’s documentation
The Liquid Glass slider is part of Golden Gate onboarding
Corner radius ∆s, illustrated
Mickey hands are back
They can’t leave well enough alone, Finder icon edition
General Golden Gate icon changes
Touch Macs are coming


Pull-to-refresh comes to macOS
ST-S notices NSToolbar changes

You can resize the iPhone Mirroring window
HIG updates for menu icons

iOS 27


Siri AI pull down animation

iPadOS 27


ST-S notes the menu is now aligned to the leading edge

tvOS (Apparently it’s still an OS in the lineup —Ed.)


Hardware compatibility

watchOS


Hardware compatibility


Apple’s AI Tech Talk

Images
Quotes
Dan Moren vanity searches

An aside on Apple filtering out some frequencies during utterances of “Siri”

Stephen Robles’ Siri AI review (timestamp link to 5m47s)
3Blue1Brown transformers video
Apple’s announcement for third-gen models
Instruction-Following Pruning for LLMs
LLM in a Flash: Efficient LLM Inference with Limited Memory

Filippone Stefano’s review

Ars Technica’s write-up

Post-show: Casey’s trip results


UniFi Travel Router
GL-iNet
Flex Mini

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OpenDoc
iPhone mirroring resizing


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696: It Seems Petty, But I Endorse It


WWDC 2026

Watch the Keynote (alternatively, on YouTube)
Craig Hockenberry on Spotlight
Word wall
Rob Rhyne’s toot
Weird holes
Change Detection
.well-known
Dear EU, 🖕. Love, Apple

Post-show: Casey’s unexpected afternoon


Music Video

Craig’s toot

Tim’s Good Morning video [Alternatively, on Xcancel]
TN3212: Adopting gesture recognizers for Sidecar touch support (via Vince)
Sam Henri Gold

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White foldable phone
More details

Sonny Dickson’s images [Alternatively, on Xcancel]

Case leaks


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695: The Crystal Pepsi of Aqua


Pre-show: 


🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈 Happy Pride! 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️
John and dynamic DNS


Former & future sponsor Tailscale (but seriously, I’m obsessed —CL)


Tailscale Funnel

DynDns.org
no-ip.org


Follow-up:


Ferrari Luce

John’s remembered video clip of sandwiching the body (extracted by RG)
John’s EV Stupidity Checklist

Wassym Bensaid, Chief Software Officer at Rivian, being a dummy


Bambu’s battle with its users


They were already in hot water (via Steve Riggins)
Jose agrees

Faking alarm reminders (via Ben Smith)
Moving files between volumes


Steven Op de beeck demonstrates this with a tiny file and a large file

Computer UI designer for Her (via Peter Puleio)


Previously on ATP


WWDC 2026

All systems glow
Wallpaper
Gurman prediction

More at MacRumors

macOS 27, Vision Pro, and Ternus [oh my!]
Hardware that has been delayed by Siri
macOS 27 name
What are we dreading?
What we’re most excited for?
What will we miss?

Post-show: Casey wants some advice


Callsheet
Channels
OAuth
VLAN
Jellyfin
Infuse
SenPlayer (App Store link)
Tailscale Service

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Previously, the DGX Spark
This is not a new chip (timestamp link to 55s)


They’re the same… but not

Surface Laptop Ultra
Ars Technica


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694: Potential and Homework


Pre-show: Marco has something to commend


Ubiquiti marketing video
Spanning Tree Protocol
Sonos & Networking Documentation

Follow-up:


Formula 1 on Apple TV
The case for alarm reminders (via Matthew Cave)
SVG can do animations — and way more! (via Vítor)


SVG can do THAT‽

Yes, you can use AI for ffmpeg, but have you tried Lossless Cut?
SF Symbols in Marco’s Reminder app (via Clarko)
How can we bemoan Electron and cheer WebViews? (via Julian Gamble)
If Finder moves are no good, are mvs the same?
Defrag lives on …in APFS

diskutil apfs defragment [disk] enable

[disk] is something along the lines of diske3 or disk3s1, that you get via diskutil list

MJ Tsai

AI Sentiment


AI levels… down?… your worst coworker (via Nathan)
Ireland compels data center developers to bring their own clean energy (via Ian Robinson)


Large Energy User Action Plan

Perspectives on art

Original Monet



The Ferrari Luce

Previously on ATP
Purosangue
Jaguar I-Pace
BMW i3
BMW i8
GMA T.33
Porsche Taycan
Galleries


The Verge
Car and Driver


Exterior
Interior


Coverage


The Verge
Top Gear
Cleo Abram
MKBHD (stationary tour)

ba-dum tss


John’s EV Stupidity Checklist

Saturday Night Live
Affordance


Post-show: RIP Destiny 2

Associated layoffs, because, of course
Destiny 1 on Wikipedia
Penny Arcade

Members-only ATP Overtime: Bambu vs. its community


How one private message could change the face of 3D printing


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693: Negative Bonus Points


Pre-show: 


🗣️ New ATP Member’s Special: ATP Movie Club: Her
Immersive Inlet: Real Madrid: The Weight of Greatness

Follow-up:


Cut/copy/paste in Finder
Terminal


John’s Terminal.app state restoration woes


tcsh
John’s Terminal settings Window tab
John’s Terminal settings Tab tab
Escape sequence extended tooltip
.cshrc

Terminal apps for macOS with text-based config files
Fancy shell prompts like Starship

KornShell

Some other terminal resources


The Linux Field Guide by Uros Popovic (via Derek)


The terminal, the TTY, and the shell

The Secret Rules of the Terminal by Julia Evans


Wizard Zines



Ignoring node_modules and the like


In Dropbox


Dropbox documentation (via Hunter Hillegas)
…or use xattrs


Dropbox documentation on ignoring files
Automator example from Boz Bundalo


In Time Machine


pnpm as an alternative to npm (via Paul Galow)


Technical explanation
Supply chain protection



20th Anniversary iPhone curved display will improve a year later? 🤨
Reminders


Has Marco tried “alarm” reminders?
Reminders snoozing (via Rob Howard)
Updates in 26.5
Flexibits


Why does everyone hate AI?


Pew Research

Concern vs. excitement
Ability to think & form meaningful relationships
Ability to tell the ∆ between AI & human-generated content
Retaining the ability to be self-sufficient
Risk vs. reward
Young adults are using it

The more young people use AI, the more they hate it
Commencement speakers aren’t getting the hint


University of Central Florida
University of Arizona
Joanna Stern interviews a recent UCF journalism grad

On YouTube


Wearable AI friend

friend.com
omi.me

Americans really don’t want data centers in their backyards

Stratechery
Phantom data centers
US nuclear power: 1970-2023 (Chart)

Source: U.S. Energy Information Administration


Angine de Poitrine on KEXP

Post-show: Marco gets geeky

Modern SwiftUI APIs for Programmatic Scrolling
Native all the way… until you need text
PaintCode
XKCD

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Why does the Googlebook exist?


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692: A Thinking Hitch


Pre-show: 


Project Hail Mary
Reconcilable Differences #286: Ain’t Nothin’ Gonna Break My Stride
Setlist
Bandcamp
Luke Bloom — Bad
D. H. T. — Listen to Your Heart
Apocalyptica 
Vitamin String Quartet
Johnny Cash — Hurt

Follow-up:


CapEx vs. OpEx (via Andrew Leahey)


Bloomberg

“Hot lot” (via Anonymous & Matt Jones)
Ultra/Neo/etc


Is the “iPhone Ultra” the 20th anniversary iPhone? (via Janne Ojaniemi)
Did we forget about “Studio”? (via Karan J)
What’s the ∆ between an iMac Neo and a Studio Display? (via Zoran Nešić)

Time Machine


…with lots of small files (via Jon Wilson & Andrew Hathaway)


Asimov

…with spinning disks (via Ben Mattison & Carlos Pereira)
…period (via David Fokkema)


lsof



Apple agrees to pay iPhone owners $250M for fumbling AI Siri
Apple is flirting with Intel and Samsung

Apple’s Newsroom post about US manufacturing
Apple and Intel have reached an agreement? (Apple News+ link)

Ask ATP:


How do we actually move files around our Macs? (via Brandon Whichard)


Yoink
MD5

Do we use a profile/theme for Terminal windows? (via Chris Harper)


Prompt 3

Do we use any other IDEs? (also via Chris Harper)

LSP
Intelephense


Post-show: .nofollow

Apple developer forum post
Symlink
.nosync, .noindex, .nobackup
Hopper
MJ Tsai
Apple open-source
Swift SE-0529: Add FilePath to the Standard Library
Safe Path Handling: Why Secure Filesystem Operations Are Harder Than You Think

Members-only ATP Overtime: Non-developers building apps


Ben Dansby


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691: A Menlo Phase


Pre-show: Two thirds of your hosts are sick 🤧
Follow-up:


Backblaze & cloud backups


Carbon Copy Cloner & Backblaze (via Barry Rubenstein)


Support document

Maestral
Arq’s approach (via Daniel Luz)

Neo-ing… other things
Mythos

What makes this different (via William Moran)
GPT-5.5 is equivalent?
cURL security/bug reports

Severe Linux security issue uncovered using AI
AI is still ruining everything

See also: MacBook Neo
More from Tim Culpan
Paul Haddad’s toot showing $25K-$35K Mac Studios for sale on eBay

An examination of Apple’s CapEx

Apple’s R&D spending hits new record
SG&A
MG Siegler’s take

Project Titan died in Febraury 2024



Ultra all the things


iPhone Ultra
MacBook Ultra
AirPods Ultra
iPad Ultra
Apple Watch Ultra 4
Mac Ultra
iMac Ultra

Ask ATP:


What size drive should one get for Time Machine? (via Pat Murphy)

Post-show: Marco’s Great Saunter

Ashokan Rail Trail
Saunter Map App
Pedometer++
Suunto Race S Titanium
Barkley Marathons

Documentary trailer


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Jason’s take
Foster Brereton

somebehemoth
Neywiny



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690: Turn Left at the Next Tree


Pre-show: Mythos

Anthropic’s blog post

Follow-up:


ATP Store


Yes, it happened again.
The ATP Neo Silver made it!

UPenn is an Ivy

Kieran Healy’s story
Marina Epelman’s thought

US News & World Report 2026 Best Engineering Schools


Gurman’s transition coverage


Tim Cook’s remarks to employees
Comparison between Cook & Ternus

The Ability to be Hotter

New material proves to be more heat conductive


Backblaze is no longer backing up cloud storage

Backblaze Mac Release Notes for version 9.2.2.878
Backblaze Windows Release Notes for version 9.2.2.877
Response on Reddit

Reparse point
Additional response on Reddit

Backblaze blog post
MJ Tsai roundup
Alternatives:


Arq
Parachute for iCloud


Ask ATP:


What generation is John’s Accord? What’s the plan for replacement? (via Brian Ashe)


ATP Neutral: Car Shopping
2014 Honda Accord

Which Apple CEO will 💩-can the Mac? (via Jason)
How often should Macs be restarted? (via Paul Franz)


Bug report
Gruber’s take


Post-show: Pedometer++ version 8.0

Underscore’s blog post
Stephen’s blog post
Six Years Perfecting Maps on watchOS

Members-only ATP Overtime: Should Apple MacBook Neo all the things?


MaxTech’s musing


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689: The Positive Effect of Enthusiasm


🗣️ ATP STORE IS LIVE! 🗣️
Follow-up:


GL.iNet KVM security issues?


Mark Wadham’s write-up
Dan Godin at Ars Technica

MacBook Neo cores 🤝 BMW heated seats? (via Edward Munn)
Joe Lion waxes poetic about RAM on Apple Silicon
More component delays

It’s Ternus time

Fashion


Cook’s shoes
Ternus’s Shirt
Cook’s Shirt

Johny Srouji named Chief Hardware Officer
Tim’s letter
New York Times coverage
Marco’s blog post

Post-show: John quizzes Marco & Casey


Apple: The First 50 Years by David Pogue
Infinite Loop by Michael S. Malone
Revolution in the Valley

folklore.org

Jason’s recommendations

Members-only ATP Overtime: Media consumption & the limits of human perception


Stephen Robles’ $3,000 video box

Kaleidescape Strato

MakeMKV
Tom’s Hardware: Audiophiles are full of 💩

Original post

One Man’s Dream (Callsheet link)


RIP, Ken Fritz



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688: A Company Man


Pre-show: Casey requests an app from Marco


Roon
Nugs

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Suunto is… not young (via Henri Sivonen)


Garmin did beat Suunto to GPS watch though

The other neat explainer John was thinking of (via Ben Landsberg)


Previously:


Eric Portis on Color Spaces
Bartosz Ciechanowski on… anything


Is Apple running out of A18 Pros‽ 😱
Apple IDs & passkeys (via Vitor)


Others with this issue
Apple said it’d be fixed… two years ago

Stealing TV… may not be so wise. Shocker! (via Nye Hughes)


See also: 


Krebs on Security
Darknet Diaries (via David Brownman)



Ads are coming to Apple Maps

Newsroom

AI-generated code & copyright


AI-generated art can’t be copyrighted
Can coding agents “relicense” through clean-room re-implementation?

No right to relicense this project

Monkey selfie
Claude, rewrite yourself

Ask ATP:


When Marco goes on a saunter with two watches, are the measurements similar? (via Jason)
Why did Marco bother with colocation? (via Stephen Gozza)

Post-show: Casey’s silly new toy

Alex’s overview
Screenshot of a Linux machine
Screenshot of a Mac

Members-only ATP Overtime: John tries to reach acceptance


Apple approves AMD & Nvidia eGPU drivers
What if Apple adopted “MPX”-style modules? (via Jan Wedekind)


MK1 High Density Rack Mount

Bandwidth comparisons 


Thunderbolt 5


80 Gbit/s symmetric
120 Gbit/s unidirectional for displays

SSD (M5 Max MacBook pro, 4 TB)


109 Gbit/s (13.6 GB/s) read
142 Gbit/s (17.8 GB/s) write

PCIe speeds on PCIe 5.0


1 lane: 32 Gbit/s (4 GB/s)
16 lanes: 512 Gbit/s (64 GB/s)
…as compared to the Mac Pro’s 64 lanes across 4 slots (2,048 GBit/s)


17× Thunderbolt 5’s maximum single-direction speed



Internal vs. external SSD


2025 Mac Studio: ~5.5 GB/s
OWC Envoy Ultra: ~5.1 GB/s; 8 TB for $2,250
OWC Thunderblade: ~5.75 GB/s; 8 TB for $2,700
PolySoft third-party internal SSDs

Kickstarter (ended November 2024)




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687: You Can Bend This Line


Pre-show: The new Ceramic Shield 2 in the iPhone 17 Pro is the real deal


UniFi Travel Router
Cascades trail
Shenandoah National Park

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Follow-up:


Studio Display XDR price drop‽ 😱


Stephen Robles


1
2

Casey’s snarky toot
Tangentially related: John’s Google One price drop

John’s upgrade cycle (via Ryan Himmelwright)
How much hotter can a Mac get?


Mac Studio power consumption
Mac Pro power consumption

Apple’s implementation of Passkeys (via Ben Frearson)
Apple subsidiary fined over $500k for breaching Russian sanctions
RetinaDisplays.com
CIE 1931 & Apple’s 2026 CMFs


They’re more than just a monitor calibration standard (via Eric Portis)
The GOAT, Bartosz Ciechanowski

Mechanical Watch

CIE updates from 2015
On Apple’s CMF

Long Island and “mainland”


United States v. Maine (via Craig Bowers)


The Greatest Podcast Ad Campaign of All Time

Overcast link
Every other podcast app
Casey’s write-up

Marco’s letter to John Ternus

A Tale of Two Letters

Ask ATP:


How does Apple Silicon RAM work, anyway? (via Johnny “Decimal” Noble)

Post-show: Marco Garmin-watch update


Suunto Race S Titanium (Amazon)
Garmin Venu 4
Garmin Forerunner 970
Garmin Fenix 8 Pro MicroLED

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Regex to detect user anger
“Undercover mode” (via Aral Balkan)
Future plans


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686: Write Two Letters


Pre-show: 


Happy independence day, John!
The Great Saunter

Pedometer++

The AI Doc: Or How I Became an Apocaloptimist

🗣️ New ATP Member Special: ATP Tier List: Home Screen Icons

More about the flag

Follow-up:


Overcast transcripts


Missed Apex

MacBook Neo


Tim Cook on the MacBook Neo launch
New Ice Book? (via Adrian Bengtson)


iBook “Snow”

Teardown by Framework founder Nirav Patel

Framework

MacBook Neo vs. Chromebooks


“NFW”, says Henry
“This could be a breath of fresh air”, says Ari


“Medium” Core and M5 Pro/Max information from Apple


Chance Miller at 9to5 Mac

Original article 🇩🇪

PCI Express

Ubiquiti


What about site-to-site VPN for Marco?


UniFi Travel Router

“Not so fast, my friend” re: Wi-Fi 7 MLO

YouTube announcement
Blog post

Some shadiness from January


🪦 RIP, Mac Pro 🪦


Thoroughly Considered #123: The Last Detail with John Siracusa
CUDA

Ask ATP:


Are we running any iOS apps in macOS? (via Alex Kent)
How would we balance new shiny vs. familiarity? (via Michael Brescher Jr.)

Post-show: John and Marco bicker about islands


Merriam-Webster’s definition of “mainland”

Members-only ATP Overtime: 🥚 Update


10 February: Delayed to 2027
20 February: Smart speaker with a camera?

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685: The Ability to Be Hotter


Follow-up:


Overcast & Transcriptions


Marco had never seen inside a datacenter
What about podcasts that include their own transcripts (via Matt King)


Apple Podcasts transcript options
<podcast:transcript> tag
MP3 ID3 “SYLT” tag

What is Marco using for a job queue? Perhaps Faktory? (via Drew Stephenson)


beanstalkd
Ansible

Monitoring & control interface
Imagine a Beowulf cluster of the minis… (via Aaron Dippner)


System X
RDMA over Thunderbolt was added in macOS 26.2
I Ran a Trillion Parameter AI on a Mac
Apple Didn’t Have to Go This Hard
Apple Insider

Mac fleet management advice


Apple Business


AirPods Max popularity in New York

WWDC 2026 Announced
Ask ATP


What’s the deal with passkeys, anyway? (via Phillip Miller)


XKCD

Does having an 8 GB RAM computer keep macOS lean? (via Jon Fabritius)
Will we get an iPhone or iPad Pro that will use macOS when connected to a display? (via Keith Heaton)


Michael Cook’s contrary opinion


Post-show: Casey is continuing to quiet quit his Synology


DS1621+
Ubiquiti UNAS Pro
Casey’s NUC
Channels
Proxmox
Tailscale on YouTube
Derek Seaman’s Tech Blog (the extremely helpful listener 🥰)
ESPHome
Syncthing & rclone
Proxmox Backup Server
Transmit
Forklift

Members-only ATP Overtime: How Apple will add touch support to macOS

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684: It’s Not What Young People Do


Follow-up:


You’re welcome, world
Formula 1


A brief, renewed pitch to watch this season
Cameras


Are not a large portion of the coverage (via Matt Rigby)
Failures don’t [usually] matter (via The Racing Line)


Great camera overview video


The other perk of in-car footage (via Eric Fox)
On getting Sky Sports replays (via Brendan Webb)

Rosetta


A deep dive from Colin McKellar
Instant Final Cut Pro deprecation warning (via Tom Obarski)

iPhone 17e teardown
MacBook Neo


Gruber on the camera & mic on-screen indicators

Apple Platform Security Guide
On Apple Exclaves (Medium link)

CPU benchmark correction (via Philipp Sommer)
SSD benchmarks (via Vito Traino)


Andrew Marc David’s review
M1 MacBook Air benchmarks
General Apple Silicon benchmarks

AmorphousDiskMark
MacBook SSD benchmarks


John’s and Marco’s hands-on impressions
Teardowns


Tech Re-Nu
iFixIt


Video
Blog post




AirPods Max 2

Newsroom
John wins the bet (Overcast timestamp link)
Apple’s compare page

Overcast beta now has transcripts!

Mac Mini Vault
Green Mini Host
FileVault over SSH
launchd
XPC

Post-show Neutral: BMW i3 Revealed

The Verge
Ars Technica

Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s 27 OSes and Liquid Glass


Gurman on 15 February
Gurman on 15 March


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683: I Didn’t Want to Melt My Rug


Pre-show: Casey brings us back to Anniversary Corner


Related episode of ATP

Follow-up:


An explanation for John’s post that broke containment (via Thomas Dickson)
MacBook Neo


John’s theory about color & clamshells
The M1 MacBook Air was American Walmarts only. (via Pierre-Luc Gagné)


Aside also via P-L: does the Neo run Rosetta 2?

MacBook Neo inputs 🤝 iPad Air inputs (via Andrew Larson)
SSD speeds (via The Verge)
The  logo


iPhone 5 intro video is what John was thinking of (via Peter Puleio)
Jason’s review

Dave2D’s review
Teardown
Tyler Stalman on the Neo running “pro” apps

Performance Cores vs. Super Cores


New in Xcode 24.6β3: CPUFAMILY_ARM_SOTRA (H17S) (via Brendan Shanks)


H17S is the missing M5 Pro identifier from iOS 26.3 RC

Quinn’s review

M5 Pro & Max are on N3P; M5 is N3E
Baidu leakers


Super cores (“P-Core”)


4.61 GHz
10-wide decoding

Performance cores (“M-Core”)


4.38 GHz
7-wide decoding
~70% the performance of a Super Core
Dual operating mode from efficiency cores

Efficiency cores (“E-Core”)


3.05 GHz
6-wide decoding



Andrew Cunningham at Ars

L2 cache


Super: 16 MB
Performance: 8 MB
Efficiency: 6MB

Minimum clock speed:


Super: 1,308 MHz
Performance: 1,344 MHz
Efficiency: 972 MHz


Fusion architecture (via Frederic_Orange)

MacBook Pro Storage pricing (via Richard Allen)
MacBook keyboard glyphs (via Dan Moren)
Environmental progress (via Andrew Leahey)


TOSTracker
Example individual comparison

Third-party displays (via Dan Boyle)
Pro Display XDR or Studio Display XDR? (asked by Imthaz)
Studio Display XDR


UFO Test
MKBHD’s review states it has 12 GB RAM 🤭
Studio Display XDR white paper (PDF) (via Kevin Sliech)


Superwide viewing angle
Timing controller (TCON)
Calibration
Display optimization modes



Formula 1 news

Drive to Survive (Apple TV link)
Dad jokey-est promo video (Also on YouTube)
2026 season preview
F1TV vs. Apple TV


Link accounts

Romain Grosjean’s 

Samsung Galaxy S26 Privacy Display

MKBHD
The Verge

Post-show: Marco’s Garmin adventures


Great Saunter
Injinji toe socks
Altra Torin 8 wide shoes
Garmin Venu 4 41mm
Garmin Forerunner 570
Garmin Fenix 8
Suunto Race S
WorkOutDoors
Pedometer++

Members-only ATP Overtime: The future of x86_64 on macOS


Tahoe 26.4 warnings
Slightly more detail from Ars Technica


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682: Medium Core


Pre-show: The best (but slowest) website on the internet

Million Dollar Homepage
2013 BMW M5 (PDF)
2014 Honda Accord (PDF)

M4 iPad Air
iPhone 17e
New displays (‼️)


Studio Display 2


A19 per MacRumors
Some excellent throwback snark from Jack Wellborn

Studio Display XDR


Day-one software update
Mac support

120Hz-worthy Macs



M5 MacBook Air

No change in RAM upgrade pricing?

M5 Pro & M5 Max

Efficiency cores still exist

M5 Pro & M5 Max MacBook Pros

If you squint, a 64GB MBP got cheaper

MacBook Neo

Name leak
Prior art
Jason’s review & charts
No indicator light
Jason’s observation about the Apple logo
Announcement video

Post-show: John had a post break containment


Context collapse

Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s video podcast experience

HLS
Dan Moren notes prior art
Not based on RSS, laments Manton Reece
Stephen Robles’ video


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681: The Price of Your Nightmares


Pre-show: Marco’s Watch and snow blows woes


TruFuel

Follow-up: 


Casey got the CableCARD email 😭
YoLink alternatives (via Joe)


IKEA Matter-over-Thread announcement
KLIPPBOK (leak sensor)
BILRESA (remote control)
MYGGSPRAY (motion sensor)

House batteries & V2H/V2L (via Russel Prouse)


F-150 Lightning

On the value of M𝑥 Pro processors (via Rick Baumhauer)
Tahoe window resizing workaround (via Nathan Manceaux-Panot)


defaults write -g AppleEdgeResizeExteriorSize 8
defaults delete -g AppleEdgeResizeExteriorSize

macOS document model


…was actually introduced in Mac OS X 10.7
…and noted in the beginning of the Mac OS X 10.8 review
Final Cut Pro X does auto-save (via Ian Robinson)


Technical details (via Videoalex)

Microsoft Office 365 also auto-saves onto OneDrive in Windows (via Éric)
Saving files in Xcode (via Alex Kent)
Returning to Save As… (via Eric deRuiter)


System Settings

Desktop & Dock → disable Close windows when quitting an application
Keyboard → Keyboard Shortcuts create an entry under All Applications for Save As… (using an ellipsis by typing ⌥ ;) and assign it to ⌘⇧S


Notepad++ (via Emily Campbell)

Alternative to Due (via Patrick Dumontel)


GoodTask


Apple March 4 “experience”

MacRumors’ roundup of low-cost MacBook limitations

Apple to manufacture some Mac minis in the US

Wall Street Journal video
Accompanying article

Apple News link

This predates this administration?

Ask ATP:


What are our current home & lock screens? (via Sagar Patel)


ATP Insider: Roast My Home Screen
John: lock & home
Casey: lock & home

Indigo
Croissant

Marco: lock & home

What’s our current desktop headphone setup? (via ziplyne)


Overtime on ATP #675
Casey


AirPods Pro 3
Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 32Ω
Desktop speakers


Sonos Era 100 × 2
Sonos Sub Mini
Sonos Combo Adapter


John: 


Sony MDR-7506
Kanto ORA4
ATP #630

Marco: 


Podcasting


Beyerdynamic DT775 Pro 250Ω
Beyerdynamic EDT1770D Earpads
Schiit Jotunheim 2 (an older model; current is Jotunheim 3)

Music


HifiMan HE6

Speakers


KEF Q150 / LSX II & KC62
Amp for Q150: Fosi Audio BT30D




Post-show: Casey’s driven more cars


BMW i4 M50
Audi e-tron GT

Members-only ATP Overtime: Skill shortages, Apple Silicon, and AI


Empowering the Next Wave of Silicon Engineers
Gell-Mann amnesia effect


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680: A Lot of Holes in That Cheese


Pre-show: 


Marco beach… and app… cleanup results


Instagram reel that John found
Due
YoLink Water Leak Starter Kit

We’re recording ✨from the future✨.

Follow-up: 


Should Casey look at a used Lucid Air for ~$50k?
Marco’s defection move to Chrome (via Sarvagnan)


Helium Browser
unduck.link

Window resizing in Tahoe (via Jeff Johnson)


“Resolved Issue” → “Known Issue”

Objective Development
LaunchBar
Little Snitch


AirTag 2 & speaker tampering
Cloudflare Open Access (via George Black)


Explanatory video

Fastmail 🤝🏻 Perl

Fastmail’s donation
John’s referral link

Another Apple purchase migration warning (via Nick)


Support document


YouTube is on visionOS (App Store link)
Studio Display 2 to be… 90Hz? 🤨
New devices not on the latest-and-greatest TSMC process?
Where are you, M5 Pro MacBook Pro?


Juli Clover at MacRumors
Ben Lovejoy at 9to5 Mac
Ben in December 2024
Vadim Yuryev (of MaxTech)

Ask ATP:


What kind of battery backup should one use? (via Allen Shull)


Casey’s “tailgate battery”
Casey’s “bequeathed” generator
Tesla Powerwall

Why do we think Ternus is a good idea as CEO? (via Kevin B.)
What’s the deal with Save As…, Duplicate, etc? (via Carl Walther)


The new document model was actually introduced in Mac OS X 10.7 Lion in 2011
More from John’s Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion review in in 2012


Post-show: Casey’s Status Board
Members-only ATP Overtime: Apparently everyone is stealing TV

ReplayTV


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679: An Adversarial Relationship With Myself


Pre-show: Marco HVAC update


Daikin
Trane
YoLink temperature sensors (or this one with a wider temp. range)
YoLink leak sensors
LoRa

🗣️ New ATP Member’s Special: ATP Insider: After Apple
Follow-up: 


Units corner


Robert Tait’s video

WarGames display reincarnated (via everyone)


ATP Movie Club: WarGames
WarGames

AI


Whoops, we whiffed on disclosing past/future sponsors 🤦🏻‍♂️
Steve Troughton-Smith’s experimentations

Three apps in one day
On usage limits

Dread & fatalism


We Mourn Our Craft by Nolan Lawson
The Tipping Point by Thomas Ricouard (Medium link 🤢)

Productivity promise vs. reality


Anthropic study
Experienced developers are slower?
Microsoft study
Atlassian study
Berkeley: AI adoption ≠ productivity gains
Harvard: Slop hinders productivity
MIT: 95% of businesses see zero returns (PDF)

Breaking the Spell of Vibe Coding by Rachel Thomas
AI-Generated Code Quality by Mark Levison
Comprehension Debt by Aman Shekhar
Your Brain on ChatGPT by Nataliya Kosmyna et al

Some related links from our AI conversation:


n8n
Stratechery interview with Benedict Evans
Computer (occupation)
Memento mori

Steam Machine & Steam Frame delayed due to component shortages/price increases

Ferrari Luce

Andrew J. Hawkins at The Verge
Walkthrough video with Jordan Golon at PRNDL

Associated post

Dieter Rams
Patek Philippe Nautilus
Braun
Gordon Murray Automotive Type 50

Shift knob & switchgear (timestamp link to 18:04)
Other videos

Leica

Post-show: Casey is car shopping


Porsche Taycan
Audi e-tron GT
BMW i4
Rivian R3
How the second-gen Porsche Taycan is better than the first-gen

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Tesla hit with another wrongful death suit by Andrew J. Hawkins
Flush door handles & efficiency by Jonathan M. Gitlin


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678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers


Pre-show: Icepocalypse update
Follow-up:


Casey’s unit conversions are helpful… ish
Other authentication options for John’s Cloudflare apps


Cloudflare Access

Zero trust architecture

OpenID connect

tsidp
Pocket ID


Per-pixel lighting and human perception (via David Schaub)
The state of MicroLED


Robert Tait of The Hook Up

Claude Code & AI ethics


Alec’s video
Irish wind farm


Top Dogs in Apple Vision Pro
Marco’s experiment


Cortex
DuckDuckGo
Kagi

Apple adds agentic coding to Xcode 26.3

John’s Tahoe icon battle continues

Rubber duck debugging

Kyle Hughes
Drop shipping

Post-show: Tesla kills off the Model S and Model X

Most recent earnings
Earnings call transcript
The Robotaxi is dangerous according to… Tesla
We really need to get to self-driving
Waymo’s safety record

Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s rumored AI pin

Apple buys Q.ai
Ryan Christoffel


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677: I Accept the Battery Cost


Pre-show: Snowpocalypse update
Follow-up:


atp.fm passkey update
Google Private AI Compute
Apple 🤝🏻 Google Cloud
Removing copy/paste crud (via rauli)
Screen on RAM
ASUS improves color accuracy for Mac users (via Oliver Thomas)
Modular headphones


AIAIAI (via Graham Dobie)
Tyler H’s review of the Fender Mix and Fairphone Fairbuds

Window management in macOS (via Ben)


FlashSpace
AltTab


New AirTags

The chime has changed from F → G

Apple hosting LA event

Invite image
Jason’s Creator Studio review

TCL has bought Sony’s TV business

TCL Super Quantum Dot
TCL X11L

John Ternus takes over design at Apple

Sebastiaan de With → Apple
Who makes design decisions at Apple, anyway?

Post-show: 


We stand with Minnesotans.


Apple employee reaction to Tim Cook
Tim’s internal memo
Tim’s letter after George Floyd
Gruber on Tim’s letter
Gruber on language
CRDT

John’s new bff

XKCD #974: Pass the salt


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Congress is unsure if it complies with law
Are content moderation changes afoot?
More data slurping definitely is


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676: A Sternly Worded Instruction


Pre-show: Snowpocalypse is coming for Casey
🗣️ New ATP Member’s Special: ATP Tier List: Automotive Logos 🗣️
Follow-up:


We’ll talk TCL/Sony next week!


Gruber’s post

Top Dogs is coming
“Cloud technology”?


Google’s blog post
Gurman’s post 

Clipboard hijacking


It’s an Apple thing
No, really

Indonesia is not small
MainStage is not new (via Mike Taffet et al)


Interview

Apple’s Pro Apps Bundle still exists for education users (via Pekka Salonen)
Pro apps free trials


Prior art (via Karoline)
The trials are full versions (via Ian Robinson)

Monitors at CES


DisplayPort alternate mode for USB-C
What about color accuracy?


Extended Display Identification Data


ProMotion in Safari

iOS: Settings → Apps → Safari → Advanced → Feature Flags
Test

Vision Pro does have Keynote

Icons in Tahoe menus


Nikita Prokopov
Jim Nielsen
Colin M. Ford (and an explanation)
Apple’s guidelines

You don’t have bad aim; it’s Tahoe
How to prevent Tahoe update nags

Many Tricks
Device management profiles
Actually it’s a bug 🤭

Ask ATP:


Was Alan Dye a better or worse steward of software design than Jony Ive? (via Austin)
Will Alan Dye’s departure affect a touchscreen MacBook Pro? (via Tom Armstrong)
What is our favorite macOS style? (via Nate)


macOS Screenshot Library


Post-show: John’s migration continues


John’s Fastmail referral link
Cron
Namecheap
Cloudflare
Claude Code
MiniDV
StatusBoard
Grafana
Prometheus
CandyBar

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The Verge coverage
Demo video
Sony WH-1000XM6
Auracast

Wikipedia

Sony MDR-7506


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675: Open, Retrieve, Expand, Load


Pre-show: Casey’s dreams were squashed


Ubiquiti Travel Router
Verizon Jetpack
Marco’s hotspot (newer models exist; check for refurbs, they’re way cheaper than new)
Solis Edge

Follow-up:


The Grim Reaper FiOS CableCARD email came for John


TiVo Roamio Pro
Casey on Downstream

Temporal dithering (via Kyle Foreman)
Dagnabbit, the screen count is just too damn high


MSI MEG Vision X (Screen grab)
MSI Lightning RTX 5090 (Screen grab)

Wi-Fi channel selection & size
Wi-Fi 7 8

A tour of Apple- (or John-) relevant monitors from CES


As a reminder…


Apple Studio Display
Pro Display HDR

MSI MPG 271KRAW16
DisplayHDR 1400 certification
MSI MAG 271KPD7

Monitors Unboxed

ASUS ROG Swift OLED PG27UCWM (Photo)


HDTVTest

Subpixel arrangements

Apple Creator Studio

Icons over time
Photomator lives on… for now (via Chris Welch)


MacRumors

Apple’s defense of the icons
Jason on iWork freemium

Apple 🤝🏻 Google

More from The Information

Chase to become the new issuer of Apple Card

FAQ
Back story on the Wall Street Journal (Apple News)

Post-show: NBA Immersive

Stratechery
Dithering

Members-only ATP Overtime: The continuing disaster at Twitter


Elizabeth Lopatto: Tim Cook and Sundar Pichai are cowards
Dan Moren: Apple cowardly still has not pulled X and Grok from the App Store
Bloomburg: Musk’s Grok AI blocked in Indonesia, Malaysia over sexual images
Robert Hart & Jess Weatherbed: X hasn’t really stopped Grok AI from undressing women in the UK


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674: A Reliable, Boring Partner


Pre-show: Casey has a question for Marco


LivePhish
Goose on Bandcamp
Nugs

Thank you, ATP Patrons!
Follow-up:


Cord-cutting


Casey on Downstream
suppose.tv

Multi-select in iOS Contacts.app (via many, including Simon Ljungberg)
The Studio Display is $1600 (via Greg Seay)


Quinn’s video on making a 5K display

Display flickering (via Stephen Perelson)


This started in late 2020 with Big Sur
Temporal dithering (AKA Frame rate control)
Stillcolor to disable temporal dithering on macOS
BetterDisplay for turning on and off GPU dithering


Docs


PlayStation Portal

…works with PlayStation Plus
…but really needs solid Wi-Fi
…and doesn’t support Wi-Fi 6
…and requires wired or first-party Bluetooth headphones

Double-tap title bar to Fill (via Chirag Desai)


Knowedge base
System Settings → Desktop & Dock → Window title bar double-click action → Fill

Wi-Fi 7


Ubiquiti’s Wi-Fi 7 implementation is not great (via Reid)


WPA3

WPA3 is not well supported (via USB Type-Steve)
Alternatively, try band steering (via Patch)
Wi-Fi Pro Abraham Vegh weighs in
…as does pro Saul Sutherland
John’s Eero Max 7 setup

Thread vs. Matter


Thread
Matter
Derek Seaman’s series
To run Matter in HA, you need a separate container

Apple Fitness+ and Quitter’s Day

Bodi


ASML & TSMC

Extreme ultraviolet lithography
Veritasium: The Ridiculous Engineering of the World’s Most Important Machine
Asianometry: ASML: TSMC’s Critical Supplier, Explained

TSMC Analysis playlist

The Spectacular Failure of the Star Wars Hotel

Tech stuff we’re looking forward to in 2026


Gartner hype cycle
The Trow of Disillusionment

Post-show: Casey bought something silly

Quinn’s video
GL i.Net
/r/ubiquiti
Teleport
Extremely dodgy firmware upgrade approach
Portainer

Members-only ATP Overtime: Strange form factor rumors for forthcoming iPhones


The Information
MacRumors
Mockup image & video
Jason’s & Stepen’s posts
iPhone fold display quietly debuted at CES?


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673: Six Impossible Things


Pre-show: Comply TrueGrip MAX for AirPods Pro 3

Pepperidge Farm Remembers

Follow-up:


Contacts


Contact lists are a thing (via Dayton Lowell)
Some non-obvious complications (via Paul)

Face ID & Touch ID


Older folks really do struggle with Touch ID (via Harrison Krebs & Kurt Schwind)
Strictness (via Rob Sayre)

John’s Liquid Glass bug in macOS 26.2 (via Gui Rambo)


Gui’s PR

Some more about Podcasts.app and background execution (also from Gui)


FB17228659
Developer Technical Support

RAM shortage


Verge article
Micron’s forthcoming fabs
Hynix’s approach

…and forthcoming fabs

Samsung’s approach
Thru-Silicon
The Vergecast RAM Holiday Spec-tacular

Data portability


Git


Github will still sink its talons into you (via Simon Jodet)
Xcode 🤝 Git (via Tom Hartnett)

Android ↔ iOS

Display flicker in Tahoe


What does this even mean? (via Daniel)
One theory (via Sean Santry)
Some corroboration (via Philip Hofstetter)


Wi-Fi 7 is a bust

-protonsandneutrons-
Playstation Portal

Ask ATP:


What’s the difference between minimizing and hiding windows on macOS? (via Michael Krewson)

Post-show: What the heck is the deal with Thread/Matter

Home Assistant
Nanoleaf Smart String Lights
Lutron Caséta (former sponsor)
YoLink

Members-only ATP Overtime: iMac Pro… phoenix?

Previous code name discussion
Jason on Apple’s display strategy


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672: Wi Hyphen Fi


Pre-show: Christmas-slideshow time
Follow-up:


Paris Buttfield-Addison’s locked Apple ID

🇦🇺 ACCC: Consumer Rights & Guarnatees
🇺🇸: Remember when we had a CFPB?

Chat math
Metadata thread splitting & merging
Colin spells it out for us


TV Everywhere
XMLTV
m3u8
IPTV Github Repo
🚨 Proceed with caution 🚨 StreamEast
506 Sports

Custom pronunciations in iOS


Accessibility → VoiceOver → Speech → Pronunciations

See Apple support

Accessibility → Read & Speak → Pronunciations

See Apple support

Apple video guide

Tahoe Studio Display flickering
Malicious content delivery in Apple Podcasts


Previously 1
Previously 2


iPhone roadmap

Article on The Information

iPhone XX rumor roundup

Under-screen FaceID?
Haptic buttons?

Apple exploring touch-sensitive iPhone cases

Patent

Ask ATP:


How do we manage our contacts? (via Tyler Kindy)
How do we use version control? (via Dmitry Myronenko)

🗣️ Remember, ATP gift memberships are a thing!
Post-show: John’s bug

FB21375029
Sample project

Members-only ATP Overtime: RAM shortage, or the flip-side of the Apple Intelligence RAM dividend


Sam Altman’s dirty DRAM deal
RAM is ruining everything
It-hurts-because-it’s-true wisecrack by ziplyne
The RAM shortage is here to stay
Chipwrecked


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671: Even Apple Can’t Beat the Sun


Pre-show: Marco joins team snow tires


i3: 155/70R19
XC90: 275/40R21
Molex
F-150 Lightning’s demise

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🗣️ New ATP Members Special: ATP Movie Club: WarGames

WarGames

Follow-up:


Some impromptu spoiler-free follow-up about the member’s special
John’s Cloudflare update


Hypercritical

Marco’s former TV (via Wayne Morgan)
Apple executive departures


Jeff Williams has been nominated to join Disney’s board


Press release
The Verge

Would Johnny Srouji consider Rivian? What about NVIDIA?

Apple 2030 & carbon credits (via Zach)
Split iMessage groups (via sirshannon)
AI-generated voice-matched dubbing


Fran Besora tried the Spanish version
Stefanus Secundus tried the German version
Ben Mattison had an odd YouTube experience

Siri and pronunciations (via Paul Zadunajsky)
Intel stealing learning from chips it fabs


Thread by Joe Lion

VHDL

Jason Biatek points out this is all basically cryptography


Galois blog post


Migrate Purchases (via James Wilby)

Paris Buttfield-Addison got locked out of his Apple ID… because of a gift card

Casey’s tangentially-related rant

Netflix to acquire Warner Brothers

Dominic Preston at The Verge
From the past: Blockbuster’s reaction to Netflix

Marc Randolph’s comment

Paramount launches hostile $108B bid

Elizabeth Lopatto at The Verge: Larry Ellison’s big dumb gift to his large adult son
Gruber’s take
As per Brian Stelter, Netflix is prepared
More Paramount context from Charles Pulliam-Moore at The Verge

Emma Roth at The Verge: CBS News was just taken over by a Substack
Elizabeth Lopatto at The Verge: Memo to Bari Weiss Re: CBS News: You’re doomed



Post-show: Casey asks for programming help


StoreKit2
UserDefaults
NotificationCenter
Singleton
Publisher
@Environment
Dependency injection
@EnvironmentObject

Members-only ATP Overtime: The State of TV


Verizon FiOS stabs John & Casey
CableCARD
PCMCIA
TiVo
Channels
HDHomeRun
TVEverywhere


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670: Institutionally Inescapable


Pre-show: Casey has a giggle about central Virginia snow
Follow-up:


Apple Fitness+ is doing better than the Mac Pro

Workout Buddy
Previously with Jay Blahnik

More adventures with Cloudflare

jramskov’s observation
TLS Certificate lifetimes
Alternatively, GitHub Pages
Some thoughts from an anonymous Cloudflare employee


Workers
Pages
R2
KV
Durable Objects

Oops… we broke it

Landon’s observation
5 December Outage

React.js vulnerability



Say my name, Siri!


Siri response preferences (via Jonathan Gulbrandsen)


Screenshot

AirPods and Contacts (via Oren Idan)
We’re… uh… sorry. Our bad.


Sean Santry
Reid Sorenson


iOS 26 rollout 📈


Underscore on 20 November
Underscore on 8 December

Intel 🤝 Apple Commentary


Tambourine Man
David Beck
Goffredo Marocchi

Previously on ATP
Srouji’s comments (timestamp link to 34m26s)
Maybe Intel will just do packaging?

Maybe iPhone chips too?

Gruber is… not a fan… of Alan Dye

Dye Was in Tim Cook’s Blind Spot


Apple’s revolving door keeps spinning

An anonymous observation
Gurman, 6 December
Gurman, 8 December
Gurman’s departing executive tracker image

Post-show: 


Messages conversation merging
A feature request

Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple Watch & Mac mini are no longer advertised as “carbon neutral”

Apple 2030
Apple commits to 100% carbon neutrality for supply chain & products by 2030 (21 July 2020)
Carbon removal & offsets


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669: Ternus, Take the Wheel


Pre-show: Marco has a new toy
Follow-up:


Vision Pro Light Seal sizes decoded

Vision Pro Size Help tool

JPEG XL lives… in PDF

Chromium ticket
jxl-rs: JPEG XL in Rust

Chapter links in Apple Podcasts


Stephen Robles on The Talk Show
Apple documentation
ATP on Threads

Malicious content delivery on Podcasts.app?

404 Media article


Everybody is leaving Apple


John Giannandrea to retire from Apple

Amar Subramanya’s first-week experience at Microsoft

Alan Dye poached by Meta

Jason’s take


Cloudflare’s 18 November Outage

Cloudflare
Lets Encrypt
Hypercritical
Callsheet

Ask ATP:


Why can’t Siri pronounce names correctly? (via Tony West)


serra queue sah
Siri, what’s my full name


Post-show: 


What now, bagel snobs?


BagelFest
Baltik’s Bagel: People’s Choice award
Baltik’s Bagel
Coverage from the NY metro area

Bullstrap Minimalist Case

Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple 🤝 Intel?

Intel 18A vs. TSMC N2
MTr/mm²


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668: So Happy for All Parties Involved


Pre-show: Marco bought a new toy


ATP Diamond Dogs: Talk Me Out of It II
Bryan’s toot

pen.tips
Paperlike 3
Paperlike Pencil Tips


Follow-up:


macOS Tahoe 26.2 β3 seems to fix Electron slowdown (per shamelectron)
Gurman says “not so fast, my friend”
Gaming in ARM


Anti-cheat complications (via Tyler)
Windows 11 on ARM (via David Gaw)

OpenAI Egg update

Interview video
Fred T

Apple N1 > Broadcom
An iPhone camera cluster theory
The UK is still trying to make fetch happen get themselves a back door

Financial Times


Apple Fitness+ is “Under Review”
Fast charging & battery health

Juli Clover summary @ MacRumors

Ask ATP:


Now that Marco owns a restaurant, does he tip differently? (via Max Velasco Knott)
What do we think about third-party packages? (via Eric Jacobsen)


swift-collections
swift-async-algorithms
CPAN
Flow

Is organizing /Applications a poor choice? (via Nathan)
Are our kids better than we are at video games yet? (via Omri Arbiv)


Ultimate Chicken Horse
SongPop Party
UltraKill
Universal Paperclips
Cookie Clicker


Post-show: The saga of Overcast episode images


Core Intuition
Linode Object Storage
CloudFlare R2

Members-only ATP Overtime: Should we ever be forced to put away our phones? (via Philip McDermott)

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667: Wisdom and Treachery


🗣️ New ATP Member’s Special: ATP Diamond Dogs: Talk Me Out of It II

ATP Diamond Dogs: Talk Me Out of It — 16 October 2023

Follow-up:


The origin of “diamond dogs” (via Jared Counts)


Wikipedia

Matte, glossy, glass, and nanotexture (via Johnny “Decimal” Noble)


Paperlike
Rock Paper Pencil

Steam Machine


EuroGamer article about APU/GPU (via DavidSchaub)

PlayStation 5 OS is FreeBSD-based (via Jesús Santaigo Narváez)


Wikipedia
PS Dev Wiki

Steam Frame


Lenses (via Michael)
Spec chart (via James O’Loughlin)
Top strap image
Steam → Apple Vision Pro using ALVR (via Iain Wallace)


Guide on Reddit


SteamOS


Is not universally supported (via DavidSchaub)
Alternatives (via solmnmagus)


Bazzite
CachyOS

Anti-cheat considerations (via Julian Torres)
Screw it, I’m installing Linux

Steam strategy


Is Steam-on-ARM popular?


Hardware survey (via Lars Boris)


Additional thoughts from Ava


Steam has only one person to answer to (via charlesesmith)

Single thread performance ranking (via Steven Op de beeck)
“High-Res Antiglare” (via Adam Wunn)

John mourns the recent news

GPU issues (via Colin Cornaby)
GeekBench Metal scores


Mac Pro (2019) + AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT
Mac Studio (2025) + M3 Ultra

The Case for a True Mac Pro Successor

Tim Cook to step down as early as next year


Tim Cook & Kara Swisher in 2021 (starts at 35:51)


As discussed in ATP #425: Hey Billionaire

Financial Times, 14 November 2025
Gruber’s take
Joe Rossignol @ Mac Rumors

Apple Corporate Governance Guidelines 


Post-show: Declan discovers “HyperCard”


Rage-baiting

Members-only ATP Overtime: The App Store on the web

Dan Moren @ Six Colors
MJ Tsai
Apple shipped its source maps

Svelte 

See also: Apple Maps on the web

Announcement

See also: Apple Podcasts on the web

Juli Clover @ MacRumors



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666: We Have Nothing That Hot


Follow-up:


John has some new Vision Pro treats


Flight Ready

In the defense of the CD-R (via Jonathan Goforth)


ATP Tier List: Storage Media

Auto-generated chapters in Apple podcasts


We’re dummies: ATP has a [chapter-free] bootleg
Some more technical details (via Stephen Robles)


Subscriber audio chapters are a mess


New MacBook Pro design is for M6 Pro & Max only?

Mark Gurman’s coverage
MD101

Tahoe & Electron app fixes


Discord is fixed (via Dayton Lowell)
Microsoft Teams Classic is likely to never get fixed (via Adam Wunn)

macOS Emoji Picker


⌃ ⌘ Space
Rocket

Pogo-stick robot

Boston Dynamics

A butt-dialing theory from Trey Carpenter

iPhone Pocket

Paul’s analogy
Gruber’s post

iPod Socks

On eBay

New Steam Hardware

Initial coverage


Image of the new devices
Announcement video
Digital Foundry’s coverage
Dave2D’s coverage

Steam Controller

TMR not Hall Effect
Understanding the difference

Steam Machine

Images on The Verge

Steam Frame

More photos


Post-show: Marco goes to Home Depot
Members-only ATP Overtime: Affinity graphics apps go free, and some people are upset

Press release


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665: My Basement Is Beautiful


Pre-show: Casey dropped his 17 Pro
🗣️ The ATP Holiday Store is back! Order before 9 November! 🗣️


T568A & T568B

Idea courtesy Adam Brandon

Don’t Stop Believin’…

An aside about podcast chapters and Apple’s recent news
Follow-up:


The current MacBook Pro design is from the M1 (via Ben Mattison)
More dashed Mac Pro dreams


Apple’s internal chip codename nomenclature
Variants


P = A_
G = A_X / A_Z / M_
S = M_ Pro
C = M_ Max
D = M_ Ultra
X = M_ Pro/Max/Ultra

Examples


A11 = H10P
A12X = H11G
A14 = H13P
M1 = H13G
M2 Pro = H14S

GPUs use G instead of H
More island/chip names from 26.1 RC:


Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX.sdk/System/Library/Frameworks/Kernel.framework/Versions/A/Headers/arm/cpuid.h
Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX.sdk/usr/include/mach/machine.h
Apple codenames


John’s tale of Xcode 26.1 woe
John’s un-fixed Electron apps
More clipboard history options in macOS 26.1
M5 MacBook Pro speed tests


MaxTech


Casey has tried the new Developer Strap


Accessibility → Audio & Visual → Balance

An aside about nanotexture displays

Marco’s current iPad paper-texture overlay

Casey upgraded to Tahoe


Funky sidebar icon

/r/overcast

Under the Radar #330: Engaging with Reddit
Meltdown in the ProCreate subreddit over a painting of Master Chief

Post-show: Marco plays with 3D printing


Tinkercad
Bambu
Eric Welander’s video about Gridfinity
Toybox

Members-only ATP Overtime: Joanna Stern tries Neo, the household “robot”

WSJ Article (or On Apple News+)
QWOP


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664: Humanity Gets in the Way


Pre-show: Marco’s airplane neighbors


Flighty

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T568A & T568B

Idea courtesy Adam Brandon


Follow-up:


Vision Pro


Mac Virtual Display


On Intel it’s only up to 3K 🤭 (via Thomas Cheng)
Apple Support

Tapping-and-holding × allows for hiding other windows (via Nick Anthony)
Vision Pro vs. ski goggles

Apple 🤝 Vapor Chambers


Would it come to the MacBook Air (via Andy Lang)
Coming to the iPad Pro?

Apple’s MLS deal


…is worldwide; not US-only
Apple advertises in Korea (via Jake Lee)

John’s Shortcuts bug


Calum’s example
Fleedar’s example
lukens77 on Reddit (via eurozerozero)
Is it all Shortcuts-related files?


Possible fix from gleeful

Overwrite If File Exists



Fixing the “iconic plateau” (via Gordon Mcdowell)
The Cheesecake Factory does, apparently, make everything fresh

ATP Inside: The Restaurant, Season One
Cube Rule


Mac Rumors


M6/OLED MacBook Pro?

Previously from Mark Gurman

Brendan Shanks’ discovery

𝓍OS 26 β4 includes Liquid Glass toggle

iOS/iPadOS: Settings → Display and Brightness
macOS: System Settings → Appearance
Example image
Lock Screen swipe for camera can now be disabled, too


Settings → Camera → Lock Screen Swipe to Open Camera


Is Tahoe safe yet?


The Electron bug
Fixes are rolling out
Detector app by Tomas Kafka, via Craig Hockenberry
Status of popular apps

Post-show: More of John’s impressions of the Vision Pro
Members-only ATP Overtime: How does one actually make an app? (via not that coach mike)

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663: Defending the Honor of The Cheesecake Factory


Pre-show: More people have been infected by Goose
🗣️ New ATP Members’ Special: ATP Insider: The Restaurant, Season One 🗣️


An aside about outerwear

🗣️ The ATP Holiday Store is back! Order before 9 November! 🗣️


T568A & T568B

Idea courtesy Adam Brandon


Follow-up:


Recognition corner
Casey begs for help


Callsheet List bug (FB17661404) is fixed in 26.1 🎉
However, Menu(::primaryAction:) is broken (FB20755661)

Some M5 Vision Pro clarifications


The M5 does have Memory Integrity Enforcement

The M5 MacBook pro without a charger is actually cheaper in most regions


EU is €100 cheaper without / €35 with (via Nick Heer)
UK is the same though

The non-determinism of LLMs (via Heiko Hotz)


New chat
Mira Murati’s company piece discussing non-determinism


The M5 Vision Pro


Dual Knit Band
HDCP
Television
Theater
New Developer Strap (behind Apple Developer paywall)


MacRumors coverage


Post-show: John’s weird Finder animation bug


AVIF

Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple 🤝🏻 F1 in 🇺🇸

Previous offerings
Apple’s bespoke F1 camera

Wired’s coverage

Apple’s F1-themed WWDC intro


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662: Just Break the Law


Follow-up:


Languages in Scotland
ATP merch has more benefits (via Christian Heiler)
Slide Over fade animation (via Daniel Luz)
Marco’s iPhone case survey: Ryan London bare bottom (via Oliver Thomas)
/u/LaughingMan11 is Benson Leung (via Deta & Daniel Luz)
ZFS and the Drobo dream (via Joe)


AnyRAID for ZFS Explained for Dummies
Hexos announcement


An aside for an argument
Apple M5
M5 Pro, M5 Max, TSMC’s SoIC

Ming-Chi Kuo
Chip on Wafter on Surface
Integrated Fan-Out Package-on-Package

M5 MacBook Pro

MacRumors on the [lack of] power adapter

Numerama


M5 iPad Pro
M5 Vision Pro

The Verge compares refresh rates
Sorry, no trade-ins
Logitech Muse spatial stylus

Apple TV+ is now Apple TV

F1: The Movie announcement post
Eddie Cue on The Town podcast
New icon

Post-show: iPhone setup, take two


Skip all the Siri/FaceID/etc things until setup is complete
Don’t try to memorize the flashing 6-digit code; choose another way

Members-only ATP Overtime: Alexa Plus in the real world


Jennifer Patterson Tuohy

“Temperature” on LLMs

Nilay’s take


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661: Intimate and Regimented


Pre-show: Marco’s “Vacation” results


Goose

Goose @ Richmond Allianz Ampitheater, 3 October 2025

Allianz Ampitheater
Chicken Salad Chick
Nugs.net
ZZQ
Suggestions from Casey, in no particular order:


Hungersite
Give it Time
How it Ends
Dripfield


Follow-up:


ATP in the wild


Original report form Richard Earney

Follow-up by Matt Smith

Follow-up on Mark Christian’s report by Santiago Hervella

AirPods 3


Ear Lottery


Michael corroborates Marco’s experience
…but Franklin Delano Stallone offers hope
…and sometimes AirPods 3 are a marked improvement, reports Matthew Schaffer

Tony Dehnke does an ANC comparison
Live translation results

David Schaub’s horror story about filling up your phone
Mike Taffet does science on iPhone ↔ iPhone transfers
Marco’s USB odyssey


Jack Wellborn had a similar experience
Syd Polk wonders if it’s a Sequoia thing
(Among others) Fabien theorizes its’ an alignment thing

Keith Heaton brought receipts
Tailgate Tub

Active vs. passive Thunderbolt cables

OWC
Informative Reddit comment by LaughingMan11


Synology alternatives


Colin McKellar suggests QNAP
See also:


UGREEN
Unraid
FreeNAS/TrueNAS
…

🎉 …may not be necessary anymore! 🎉


Coverage from Guru3D 
SpaceRex on YouTube
Lee Hutchinson at Ars Technica



More more first impressions


Quick AirPods Pro 3 update
iPhone case updates


Omar Shahine performs surgery on the Nomad back
Torras clear case
Bullstrap open-bottom leather case
Peak Design Everyday Case (Charcoal color has the good fabric)
Still to test: Süti PhoneBack in black leather, if it ever ships

iOS 16
iPadOS 26: Now with slide-over!

Apple pulls ICEBlock from the App Store

Previously, in Hong Kong

Tim’s explanation
Response letter

Reuters’ take
MJ Tsai
Gurman on Apple succession

Post-show: Pour one a Sprite out for a real one TiVo

Channels
AOL dialup service ends

Members-only ATP Overtime: The Meta Ray-Ban Display, and Apple’s response


The Verge
Gurman: Apple pivots


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660: It’s All Chicken Salad


Pre-show: Eh, that’ll keep…

M5 iPad Pro
FCC leaks

🗣️ St. Jude time is almost done! 🗣️


Supporting Action for Emergency Response
Lebanon case study
Global crisis repsonse blueprint

🗣️ New ATP Member’s Special: ATP Dev: Computer Science Curriculum
Follow-up:


ATP in the wild (via Mark Christian & Richard Earney)
iOS 26.0.1 allegedly fixes N1 Wi-Fi/BT issues


CarlinKit wireless CarPlay dongle

What does iCloud back up? (via Dayton Lovell)
iCloud for Messages

A ringing endorsement from Nick
A potential fix for ∞ GIFs (via Nathan)

iPhone Transfers


Why not pre-populate them, Kindle-style? (via Winnie Lewis)
TestFlight is… better now? (via Daniel Nelson)
Some thoughts from Nick

Apple’s onboarding enshittification (via Imthaz)
Thought to text & AlterEgo

Firefox (1982)
Prior MIT project (via Hannes)
CJ’s thoughts


Preview video
EMG
EEG



More first impressions


TechWoven cases
Tina’s Bullstrap case
Bullstrap wallet
Stephen Robles leather iPhone case review
Nomad Magnetic leather back

Marco’s video of the flaw

iPhone 17
AirPods Pro 3

Erin’s Audio Corner
The Headphone Show
The Harman Curve


Ask ATP:


How do we really know if something is encrypted? (via Joshua Wold)
What is the point of neural engine cores, anyway? (via Tom Cole)


SIMD
Evaluating the Apple Silicon M-Series SoCs for HPC Performance & Efficiency
AMX Units
Neural Engine

Does filling a phone SSD slaughter performance? (via Sean Harding)

Post-show: Marco’s USB odyssey


CalDigit Thunderbolt Element 4
BLE caberQu

Members-only ATP Overtime: NAS Noodling


Synology [sorta] says third-party drives will be supported in the future

Synology Solution Day 2025 teaser video

Ubiquiti’s new NAS units


UNAS 2
UNAS 4



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659: Lose the Ear Lottery


Marco’s AppleCare “Express” Replacement
🗣️ It’s St. Jude time again! 🗣️


The Marco Offset
Podcastathon 2025

Follow-up:


Auburn’s colors are UVA’s colors (via Tony Scida)
You don’t need the trick new Apple charger to charge an iPhone 17 at full speed
iPhone Air


Why people are buying the iPhone Air / 15” MacBook Air
Bending the iPhone Air


Apple (via Tom’s Guide)


Direct video link

JerryRigEverything (timestamp link to 6m35s)


Same video, different timestamp (7m37s)


Battery life


Mr. Whose the Boss
The Tech Chap
Tom’s Guide

Speaker (via Steve Troughton-Smith)
Thermals


MaxTech

iFixIt Teardown
Thickness


Visual comparison of thickness (via Ludwig Schubert)
Thin iPhone future? (via Ian)


iPhone 17 Pro


Teardowns


REWA Technology

All the screws
17 vs. 16
17 Pro internals
Vapor chamber
Logic boards

Vapor chambers explained
Max Tech

Scratches on the back?

More images from MacRumors
And from Watson
JerryRigEverything


iPhone sales


The Information (MacRumors summary)


iPhone setup advice


Casey’s tale of woe (see also Upgrade #582: First Chance to Make One Impression)

First impressions: iPhone 17 Pro


Scratchability
Telephoto camera


iPhone 16 Pro 5× vs. iPhone 17 Pro 8×


Post-show:


HP M553
HP M554

Members-only ATP Overtime: Anthropic’s $1.5B book piracy settlement


The Verge: Settlement announced, 5 September
Previously, on ATP #656: Anthropic asked for $1.5B/yr from Apple
The Verge: Settlement paused, 9 September
Ars Technica, 9 September


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658: Your First Mistake Phone


Marco 0️⃣ → 1️⃣
🗣️ It’s St. Jude time again! 🗣️


Podcastathon 2025: Friday, noon → midnight EDT

Stephen Hackett said the foldable will be the “iPhone Ultra”
μm is a “micron”
The iPhone Air battery pack does have a USB-C port after all
iPhone 17 Pro requires a new adapter to charge at full speed

Apple 40W Dynamic Power Adapter
Anker Nano 45W charger

A19 vs. A19 Pro    
A19 Pro benchmarks
The N1 is in every new iPhone
The whole of the iPhone Air is in the camera plateau

Large image

Casey’s memory problems corner


ATP #655 (Overcast timestamp link)

The mmWave antenna window is back


Background

Logo placement on Apple’s cases


Clear Case with MagSafe
TechWoven Case with MagSafe

Some funny renders from iPhone case makers
Theories about the iPhone 17 Pro colors


Every masterpiece has its cheap copy
Luke Skywalker
University of Virginia
Denver Broncos
Auburn University

2021 impactful boosters


iPhone Air


Will it bend?


Joz (& Ternus) with an incredible [lack of] flex

17 was a last-second decision? (via Sam Henri Gold)
Max Tech’s discoveries


The Air does not have stereo speakers
The Dynamic Island is lower than on other phones
The USB-C port is not vertically centered


Image

No Cinematic Mode video, including the selfie camera
The new selfie camera is actually a 24MP sensor

No LiDAR scanner
Air & 17 non-Pro are limited to USB 2

USB 2.0


Every new iPhone screen has the same specifications, save size/resolution


Apple iPhone comparison page

iPhones 17 can now toggle screen flickering off

Pulse-width modulation
9to5Mac’s coverage
PWM sensitive subreddit

Apple Watch


Satellite data requires a cellular plan
Jason & Greg Pierce agree
Is “24-hour” battery claim because of a change in measurement?
Underscore’s observations about the Ultra

Apple Watch battery


AirPods


Ear shapes (via Tirial)
About that “2×” noise reduction


AirPods product page

The new AirPods Pro case is not smaller
“New generation of Ultra Wideband technology” is the U2 chip
Live translation is on-device (not in ☁️)
Live translation is blocked for EU users with EU Apple Accounts

Apple feature availability


Safari on iOS 26’s compact toolbar
Tahoe Toolbars (via Zhenyi Tan)
    * Frosting download link
    * Frosting test page
Post-show: John’s red dot
Members-only ATP Overtime: Alterego and “thought to text” translation


How artificial intelligence gave a paralyzed woman her voice back

A high-performance neuroprosthesis for speech decoding and avatar control

Meet the Little Brain Region that Helps You Say What’s on Your Mind

Speech sequencing in the human precentral gyrus

Scientists develop interface that “reads” thoughts from speech-impaired patients
Alterego


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657: Ears Are Weird


🗣️ It’s St. Jude time again! 🗣️


The Marco Offset

iPhone event

AirPods Pro 3
Apple Watch Series 11

No new System-in-Package?
Whoop Band

Apple Watch SE 3
Apple Watch Ultra 3

LTPO
Satellite can-kicking continues

iPhone 17

Memory Integrity Enforcement

iPhone Air

iPhone Air MagSafe Battery 💔

iPhone 17 Pro & Pro Max
Software ship dates

Post-show: 


Apple trade-in
✨ Tina’s dream has come true! ✨

Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s competing implementations for the new Siri


Gurman, 13 August
Gurman, 22 August
Gurman, 3 September


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656: A Long T-Shirt


Pre-Show: Trouble in Razer paradise
🗣️ It’s St. Jude time again! 🗣️


The Marco Offset

Follow-up:


Casey has thoughts about the compact iOS 26 controls in Safari


Settings → Apps → Safari

Apple device advice for those that are athletically engaged

Place your phone face-down (via. A. O.)
Sleep focus is an option (via A. M.)
So is Theater Mode and, if taps are an issue, water lock (via Ryan)
How to stop Siri from randomly activating all the damn time by D. Griffin Jones
Fun fact: you can add it to the Health app! (via Niv Ben-Porath)


…but it won’t affect your rings

A truly hilarious story from Anonymous

Developing “product sense” (via Joseph Kibe)


Productive Tensions by Christopher B. Bingham & Rory M. McDonald


iPhone 16 exit interview


Peltier device
Obscura
Halide

iPhone event preview

Crossbody strap
Apple Natural Titanium Milanese Loop (Marco’s summer watch band)

Post-show: Smaller e-ink note-taking tablets


reMarkable Paper Pro Move

The Verge’s coverage
Ars Technica’s coverage

Supernote Nomad
iFLYTEK AINOTE Air 2
Viwoods AiPaper Mini

Members-only ATP Overtime: US government buys 10% of Intel

Ars Technica
New York Times
The Verge
Intel self-announces all the red flags


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655: Shorts-Compatible Body Type


Pre-Show: Casey and Marco are sad


Ben Rice McCarthy
Under the Radar

Follow-up:


🗣️ It’s St. Jude time again! 🗣️


The Marco Offset

Anonymous crushes the dreams of Marco and Casey about cellular MacBooks
Another Anonymous shares a bit too much information about accidental Siri activations 😆
🤬 John’s AppleCare One update 🤬
Help with Trackpad dragging


System Settings → Accessibility → Pointer Control → Trackpad Options… → Dragging Style → Three Finger Drag

Screenshot

…or Drag Lock

Masimo comes for [more] blood
UK drops utterly bananas backdoor legislation
Studio Display with A19


Daniel Luz points out makes a funny comparison to Macs
Fabian Häusler theorizes it’s about binning

Apple’s Hide my Email feature


An unexpected wrinkle Timothy Martin points out
Anecdote from David Beck


Apple Event: 9 September 1PM OTTZ


Interactive logo

Still image for posterity

Reverse-engineering by sam henri gold

“TechWoven” and “Liquid Silicone” cases leaked


Maijin Bu on TechWoven
…and on Liquid Silicone (and again)

Apple will simplify the Camera Control button
Ask ATP:


What’s the ∆ between snapshots and backups? (via Phil Hirst)


Hyperspace

Why is Finder slow to delete files? (via Dan)
How will Apple reconcile AI and carbon neutrality? (via Sam Hunt)

Post-show: Some venting about politics and 𝓍26.


Jeff Atwood’s post
John’s reply
There’s nothing Republicans won’t ruin

Members-only ATP Overtime: Rumored Apple roadmap

Apple readies first upgrade to its struggling Vision Pro headset


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654: Athletically Engaged


Pre-Show: AI slop vs. not… so… AI… slop


AITAH

Follow-up:


Casey spends 24 hours with iOS 26 on his carry phone


John’s dancing controls

☝️ Well, actually ☝️, myriad of is okay (via Jason Eccles)


Merriam-Webster’s take

Are size classes similar to today’s design changes? (via Bryan Guffey)


Auto Layout

John’s HomePod has risen from the dead!


Nic’s Fix
Watch John’s actual repair happen

🍿 John would like to air some AppleCare One grievances 🍿


John’s tantrum
AppleCare One Terms & Conditions


Blood oxygen with Apple Watch [sorta] returns to the US

Gruber’s take
Victoria Song at The Verge

😳🥳 M5 MacBook Pro with cellular is coming‽ 🎉😳
A19 Pro in Studio Display 2?

Previously, in low-cost MacBook rumors: A18 Pro

Your Mac game is probably rendering blurry

CGDisplayCopyAllDisplayModes()
FB13375033

Ask ATP:


Should the name “Siri” be retired? (via Aaron Bushnell)
Did Vehicle Motion Cues help John? (via Roly C.)
How do we click our trackpads? (via Eli)

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Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s research into using LLMs to make UIs


Apple trained a LLM to teach itself good SwiftUI
Research paper
Stephen Robles’ video


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653: Warning Stories


Pre-Show: Marco and Casey’s no-good, very bad days.
Follow-up:


Casey didn’t read the fine print on Express Replacement 🤦🏻‍♂️


Short Pump

John cycled his mouse again
AppleCare One


Moving a device on a payment plan (via “Clark Griswold” and Anonymous)
Tina’s iPhone
Tina’s Mac Studio

Tahoe beta 5: checkbox contrast improves
iOS 26 beta 6 Liquid glass changes
Smart TV interfaces over time


“Shortcut”
New Magic Remote

Running your own mail server


How does iCloud-on-your-domain work? (via potato.zip)
Hide my Email (via Peter Puleio)
Jason Diller thinks it’s not so bad

Post-quantum cryptography


Harvest now, decrypt later (via Lisa Ugray)
Since iOS 17.4 for iMessage (via Saul Sutherland)


Apple Security Research blog post

Compelled adoption (via Brian Jarvis)
Chrome adopted it in 2024 (via sayrer)


2024: State of post-quantum internet
2025: Update



John wages war against icons


Adopting Liquid Glass: App Icons
WWDC 2025 #361: Create Icons with Icon Composer
John’s Mastodon thread

Václav Slavík’s solution
FB19437407
FB19497128
FB17892659

There’s likely to be a lot more of this

Ask ATP:


Is Liquid Glass on macOS a subtle move toward touchscreen Macs? (via Daniel Liu)
How does one build a “good product sense”? (via Ian Anderson)


Inspired by Marty Cagan

How does one effectively de-duplicate photos using Photos.app? (via Keith Heaton)

Post-show: Marco’s air-conditioning “update”
Members-only ATP Overtime: AI voice control as a threat to Apple’s platforms


Apple’s Upcoming AI Voice Control will Change how People Use iPhones


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652: You Have 24 Hours to Comply


Pre-Show:


Brief vacation results
Tim Cook kisses the… ring

Video


Follow-up:


HDTVTest reviews Sony Bravia 8 II and Panasonic Z95B
TV shootout results

Nilay’s comments

AppleCare One

iCareCalculator Reddit post (removed by moderators)
iCare Calculator web app
John’s experience

B&H

Casey’s roughly equivalent Mac, available for special order

Retro computing corner


Revisiting eWorld

More on Tahoe


Gus Mueller


…on checkboxes
…on sliders

Beta 5 improves selection legibility

Ejecting USB storage in Windows (via Justin Bradford)


Bleeping computer

Art & science of UI design


Game design concepts in software (via Wes Davis)


iPhone 17’s rumored new MagSafe design

Majin Bu
iPhone 16

Apple’s “Answers” team
Ask ATP:


How can one improve the experience of a permanent-mount SSD on a laptop?


Jettison

Why is Xcode so thirsty? (via Geoff)


Time Machine local snapshots

Deleting snapshots with Disk Utility

DevCleaner (App Store link)
Github
GrandPerspective
Disk Inventory X
DaisyDisk

How are we dealing with spam? (via Alan Bailward)


SpamSieve
MailRoute
Fastmail


Post-show: Apple Express Replacement
Members-only ATP Overtime: Post-Quantum Cryptography networking in the 𝓍26 OSes


Prepare your network for quantum-secure encryption in TLS


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651: Your Judgement About Pockets


Pre-Show: Casey’s french-fry problem
Follow-up:


D. Griffin Jones takes one for the team 
Casey’s struggles with iperf3

Tutorial
iperf3 -t 60 -c {ip} -P 4 -i 10 -R

John’s new toaster and E01 (via J-P Teti & John F.)
Chemical vs. physical sunscreen (via Prodan Statev)


Research paper

Apple security for unreleased devices
Low-cost Apple laptop (via Jason Anthony Guy)


Ed: Please don’t give Apple ideas like this. 🫣

Getting customer support from Apple (via Patch)


Apple support app → Chat
Any retail store on Apple Maps → ... → Message

CloudFlare & AI crawlers


Thoughts from Thomas Schoffelen
Thoughts from Aaron Zinck
Thoughts from Anonymous


JA3/JA4 fingerprint


The 𝓍26 public betas are out

Under the Radar #323: The Tidal Wave

Tahoe beta 4


Contrast will decrease until morale improves


Startup disk selection (cropped)
Startup disk selection (full)

News summaries are back, baby!  😬


Apple and interfaces


Tog in Interface (1992)


Amazon
NNG

Tog on Software Design (1995)


Amazon
NNG

Apple’s Aqua introduction, Macworld San Francisco, 2000

AppleCare One

Dan Moren’s take
The Verge
Fees & deductibles
FAQ (scroll way down)

Post-show: John has an addendum to his earlier topic
Members-only ATP Overtime: Frame of preference, an incredible exploration of the Mac’s settings by Marcin Wichary in concert with Mihai Parparita of the Infinite Mac Project

Marcin’s announcement
Mihai’s associated announcement
Embed Infinite Mac
Infinite Mac Construction Set


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650: Whatever It Takes to Get the Laundry Folded


Pre-Show: Casey did Marco’s favorite thing


CalDigit TS5+ (affiliate link)
CalDigit TS5+ (product page)
iperf3

Follow-up:


F1 (the sport,  not the movie)


Apple expected to win 🇺🇸 rights

F1 TV
Vroom

John’s video != Casey’s immersive ride-along

To see the immersive ride-along, you need to be wearing a Vision Pro; scroll down on that link


John’s toaster update
AirPods & AppleCare+


Keratoconus
Water resistance

IP54

AirPods Express Replacement Service
B&H

Reverting to “normal” tabs in Tahoe (via ST-S)


defaults write -g NSSolariumWindowTabs -bool NO

Low-cost Apple laptop with A18 Pro

mandonam


Apple sues leaker Jon Prosser for stealing iOS secrets

99% Invisible #626: Emoji Law
Gruber’s theorized redactions
Gruber’s predictions

Cloudflare Declares Content Independence Day

Press release
ChangeDetection.io
Stratechery (paywalled)

Post-show: Marco solved sunscreen


John’s hat that he likes
John’s hat that is cheaper but that he likes less
🇯🇵 Skin Aqua Super Moisture UV Gel (eBay)
🇪🇺 La Roche-Posay Anthelios UVmune 400 Invisible Fluid, Non-Perfumed (eBay)
Australian sunscreen video

Members-only ATP Overtime: Is copying Apple hardware a good idea?


Kuycon G32P 6K 32” IPS monitor

Video review by Oliur / UltraLinx

ASUS 32” 6K ProArt display

Previously on ATP overtime
D. Griffin Jones’ review of the 5K

Studio Display Mark II coming in early 2026?


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649: Prove It With Cameras


Pre-Show: Live music & failed air conditioners
🗣️ New ATP Members Special: Tier List: Pizza Toppings
Follow-up:


Meta Hires Top Apple AI Models Executive
SFSymbols 🤝🏻 Tahoe Folders

Standard SFSymbol: xattr -w 'com.apple.icon.folder#S' '{"sym":"camera.viewfinder"}' folder
Private SFSymbol: xattr-w 'com.apple.icon.folder#S' '{"sym":"solar.system"}' folder
Random string: xattr -w 'com.apple.icon.folder#S' '{"emoji": "HIMOM"}' folder
FB18022272: “summary” symbol missing in SF Symbols 7 developer beta

Toolbars


Safari


Beta 1 image
Beta 3 image
The Guardian (good example for messing around with the toolbar)

Terminal


Beta 1 image
Beta 3 image

iOS 26 Beta 3

Direct video link
_David Smith’s beta 2 (?) video
Stephen Hackett’s beta 3 video
Matt Birchler: Liquid glass, now with frosted tips
Steve Troughton-Smith pours water on the fire


YouTube’s new player UI
“Clear” iPhone mock-up was by Gavin Nelson in April 2025
HDR controls in iOS 26 (via Gui Rambo)


Demo project


✌️ out, Jeff Williams

Gruber
Gurman

Casey ponders the purpose of AppleCare


Casey in Dongletown

Post-show: John & Casey review F1

Plumber Problem
Guenther Steiner
Brad Pitt drives a F1 car for the first time
Vision Pro Brad Pitt ride-along (Vision Pro users, scroll down)
Casey’s pinball machine

Members-only ATP Overtime: 2020 Hindsight

John Giannandrea


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648: Part of the Movement


Pre-Show: John’s almost an empty-nester 😱


Reconcilable Differences

Follow-up:


FireWire now with Thunderbolt! (via Timo Hetzel)
Tahoe without Xcode beta: Device Support for macOS 26 Beta

Developer downloads
↳ Direct link

Putting older OSes on newer hardware (via Gui Rambo)
UPS VA ratings (via Marshall C)
Apple’s LLM/LRM paper (from Overtime in ATP #643)


Training data vs. distribution (via Deon Garrett)
Rebuttal
Rebuttal of the rebuttal
More from Gary Marcus
The original rebuttal was… a joke? 🤨

HDR in 𝑥26
iPadOS 26 window limits
“Glass iPhone” demo

↳ Direct video link

That “natural language to CLI” app is Substage

Apple plans to launch a low-cost MacBook powered by… an iPhone CPU‽

Apple A18
References spotted in code
Jason on A18 speed
Stephen on the technical limitations

Ask ATP:


Is adding permanent NVMe storage a bad plan? (via Neil)


CalDigit TS5+

What’s the best way to increase “internal” storage on a Mac? iSCSI? Mounted disc images? (via Patrick Harms)


Atto Xtend SAN

How does a new grad land a job?

Post-show: Casey’s approach to ad-free YouTube must be dissected


YouTube Premium Lite

Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s App Store changes for the EU

Jason’s coverage

Store Services tiers in the EU

Gruber’s summary
Cranky man remains cranky
Steve Troughton-Smith’s take
The Verge


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647: You Get One Exclamation Point


Pre-Show: John has made an important purchase

11 June 2011
Documentation of the journey (spoilers!)
John’s beloved
Ninja
Anova
After Dark

Follow-up:


We’re doing good work here, folks


YoLink leak sensors
Leak sensor 4-pack with compulsory hub
Travel insurance is more than you think it is (via Jason Poole and Levi Dalton)


Allianz concierge


Window widget size in Tahoe
Apple Intelligence is now allowed when booting from an external in Tahoe beta 2
Floating tab bars in iOS 26
Apple “Ducks”

The Architect’s Lions

Maybe don’t yank out removable storage in Windows either (via Adrian Mester)
It’s the world that’s wrong, not me: iPhone 16 Pro case edition


“We Messed Up”
Bullstrap open-bottom case

Ads in YouTube


Why not use uBlock Origin? (via Igor Kulman)
…or perhaps Vinegar (App Store link) (via Michael Brown)


RIP FireWire
Apple marketing continues to misfire
Apple weighs using Anthropic or OpenAI to power Siri

OpenAI/Meta leadership talent rivalry

Ask ATP:


Is it worth buying a laptop where Tahoe is preinstalled? (via François-Olivier Leblanc)
How much faster will an M4 be than an M1 for Xcode Simulator launches? (via Alistair Logie)
How do we choose a new UPS? (via David Levine)


John’s pick
Casey’s pick
ATP #569
Eaton UPSes


Post-show: Marco restaurant-tech MVPs… from his co-hosts!


Tailscale (Tailscale is a prior sponsor)


Casey’s introductory post
Tailscale 4via6

YoLink temperature sensors (even cheaper with a smaller temp. range)


Thermoworks
VHB Tape
Eve Room


Members-only ATP Overtime: Should we pay developers like athletes?


Sam Altman claims Meta has made $100M offers

Jack Altman’s podcast
Reuters coverage



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646: On the Shelf With the Pickles


Pre-Show: Phish & Wabbit Dave Matthews Season


Allianz Ampitheater at Riverfront
Belkin UltraGlass 2

Some Administrivia:


🗣️ New ATP Member’s special: ATP Movie Club: Sneakers 🗣️


Sneakers (1992)

ATP Performance Shirt Inventory Sale

Follow-up:


Persistent icon replacement helper apps


Pictogram
Replacicon

Tahoe beta 2


Finder icon updated!

Louie Mantia tries again

New menu bar background setting!


Beta 2, with background

Tahoe’s [Not-So-] Naked Robotic Menu Bar (via Vítor)


Beta 1, gray
Beta 1, red
Beta 1, white

Safari toolbars (via Lewis Dorigo)


Settings → Advanced → Show color in compact tab bar
<meta name="theme-color">
theme_color
Yosemite Safari tabs

From John’s review


Installing betas and DFU mode


macvdmtool (via Robert Sherry)
DFU Blaster (via Brian LaShomb)
InstallAssistant.pkg (via Andy Beyer-Bowden)


iOS 26 Beta 2


Frost all the things!
The case of Marco’s missing download/check buttons


Roman’s observation


iPadOS 26 window limits (via Jon Edwards)
“Apple Vision Pro 4K” (via Greg Kaplan)


visionOS what’s new
2048
Threes


All your data are belong to AI companies


Apple training models on Feedback attachments ಠ_ಠ 


Original report from Joachim

Meta AI staffers take an interesting approach
New York Times 🤝🏻 Amazon AI
You can train AI models without copyrighted material… it’s just a pain in the 🍑
Anthropic gets a W… maybe?

Ask ATP:


Does Marco use Apple CarKey? His car should support it. (via Samuel Polay)


CarPlay Ultra partners list is looking… sparse
Ferrari keyfob

Why does macOS want USB mass storage ejected, but iPadOS doesn’t? (via David Campbell)

Post-show: TV Update for Marco


RTINGS: Sony Bravia 8 II review
RTINGS: Bravia 8 II vs. A95L
LG G5


RTINGS: LG G5 review
HDTVTest: LG G5 review
RTINGS: LG’s New Firmware for the G5


Members-only ATP Overtime: Overlap between appdev & gamedev


Coyote time & jump buffering
Secrets to a great platformer with Unity
Destiny health
Examples in our apps


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645: More Frosting


Pre-show: G4 Doorbell Pro

Bespoke 3D-printed mount
Fancy-schmancy Marco-recommended Flashlight

What betas are we running?


Virtual Buddy

𝑥OS 26 & Version Numbers


iOS Apps built against old SDKs get 19.0; new ones get 26.0 (via Gui Rambo)


ProcessInfo
/System/Library/CoreServices/SystemVersionCompat.plist

Tahoe returns 16 when reqiured for compatibility and 26 otherwise (via Howard Oakley)


SYSTEM_VERSION_COMPAT=1 = 16
null or SYSTEM_VERSION_COMPAT=0 = 26


Liquid Glass


Adopting Liquid Glass

Don’t Liquid Glass All the Things

Not present in macOS? (via Steve Troughton-Smith)
Liquid Glass clone in Flutter (via Dave Wood)
Fluid Glass in React (via Francisco Tolmasky)

macOS Tahoe

Whimsy returns! (via Minimal Nerd)
Squircle Jail

Squircle ∆ (via Yannic Lung)
Say Hello to the New Look of App Icons
Squircle Jailbreak! (via Simon B Støvring)

Speaking of rounded corners…


Build an AppKit App with the New Design

Chonky stoplights


macOS 26 window control buttons are no longer smol (via Avi Drissman)
-[NSTitledFrame sizeOfTitlebarButtons]

Missing title bars
Missing menu bar fixes


GlassBar
Boring Old Menu Bar

Alignment


Tahoe dialog
Tahoe dialog, center-icon mockup
Left-aligned title bar text images

Finder icon controversy

Stephen tried Icon Composer with solid results
Michael Flarup
D. Griffin Jones

Icons next to menu items


Previously in the HIG (via Stefan Habel)
Today in the HIG

Tabs contrast


Terminal tabs

Safari contrast


Ridiculous pink in the toolbar in Safari

Arrow cursor has been updated


Discovery by Nathan Manceaux-Panot
Hand cursor as well

Floating elements & compartmentalization


Screenshot
We all float down here
Mario Alberto Guzmán’s observations
Steve Troughton-Smith’s observations

Clipboard history


Stephen Robles
Overview video

Future of Rosetta

Ars Technica

New disk image format: ASIF

Howard Oakley write-up


iOS 26

UI impressions
New slider thumbs reveal new info (via Niki Tonsky)


Video


iPadOS 26

Open window limits (via Steve Troughton-Smith)


Previously, in Mac OS X 10.0…

Slideover is 💀
UI impressions

Testing Liquid Glass


UIDesignRequiresCompatibility

Vision Pro 4K? (via Steve Troughton-Smith)
Post-show: WWDC Favorites


Apple’s transcription APIs

John Voorhees’s write-up
Yap

Generable
SwitchGlass

Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple snubbed Gruber, so who got the nod?


Interview roundup on MacRumors
Joanna Stern


7-minute excerpt
Full 24-minute interview

Mark from Tom’s Guide & Lance from TechRadar


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644: You Have to Invert


Pre-show: Initial Switch 2 Reactions


Mario Kart World

WWDC

F1
Sam Henri Gold
Marcel
Flighty
Parcel
Control Plane
Acorn

Post-show: RIP, John’s Mac Pro
Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s latest paper on the limitations of LLMs


Previously discussed on ATP #609
GaryMarcus’ blog post which quotes a summary from Josh Wolfe
Gary’s 1998 paper
Gary’s 2001 book


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643: You Go to Squircle Jail


Follow-up:


Apple “emergency” App Store appeal denied
Additional lighting solution (via Nathanial)
macOS 26: Tahoe?
macOS 26 supported hardware
Laurene Powell Jobs & Jony Ive interview

MacRumors coverage
Molly White’s newsletter
Polycom “star”/”spider” phones


Vision Pro & John Siracusa Corner


Bono: Stories of Surrender
Open: An Autobiography
Rattle and Hum
Apple Immersive Screenshots:


Crowd
Stadium
TV


PSA: Plex privacy  opt-out
Apple/SwiftUI folks: a quick appeal, if you please


Casey’s toot
FB17661404

WWDC hopes & predictions


Greg Jozwiak’s tweet
Physicality: The new age of UI by Sebastiaan de With
Windows Aero
Newton’s cradle
Sendable

Post-show: Apple declines invitation to The Talk Show Live

Retreating to Safety
Something Is Rotten in the State of Cupertino

Members-only ATP Overtime: Sky: a new AI app for macOS


Federico’s exclusive
Stu Maschewitz’s take
Software Applications Incorporated


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642: A Rebuilding Year


Pre-show: ATP’s relationship with Apple


Five Whys

Follow-up:


SSD longevity details from an anonymous SSD firmware engineer
Vision Pro on The Price is Right
What are Jony Ive and Sam Altman building?

Ming-Chi Quo’s opinion
Upgrade #565: The Scent of Humane

Alexa Plus Update
Neutral:


Slate Truck Top Gear review
TELO, a potential Slate competitor (via Kevin Ayers)


There’s a Discord (via Kevin Cash)
DeMuro’s review
Classic Mini vs. Modern MINI

Pickup beds over time


Apple Turnover and Apple Turnaround

ATP #639: Crimp the World
Terry Pratchett’s Boots theory
Apple’s “Back to the Mac” event from 2010

Post-show: More restaurant-tech MVPs


DeWalt LED Work Light
DeWalt Tire Inflator
DeWalt 60V Blower
Zip-Tie Screw Mounts
3M VHB Tape
Waveform Lighting power supply, dimmer, and Dim-to-Warm LED strip (optional diffusing channels)
Knipex Wire Stripper
Wago Connectors

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641: We're Saving That for the Egg


Pre-show: 🗣️ New ATP Member Special: ATP Top Four: Game Consoles 🗣️
Follow-up:


Home Networking Corner 🤝🏻 Vision Pro Corner


How I use my AVP to retrofit Unifi Access Points in finished homes

SSDs and long-term storage was covered on Security Now #1023 (via Paul Chernoff)


SpinRite (Intel-only)

Fornite is back in the US App Store

App Store link
Judge YGR’s filing
Apple 🤝🏻 Epic
Epic courts Apple developers

Gurman on the Apple Intelligence fiasco

Previously on ATP

The EU App Store warning about external purchases isn’t new after all

Apple documentation


Apple to open AI models to developers?
OpenAI buys Jony Ive’s AI company, io

Sam and Jony
Gurman’s coverage

Ask ATP:


What was our favorite school camp/trip? (via Harrison)


FBLA
Disc camera

What’s the deal with the tire markings on the bootleg cover art? (via Josh Kincaid)


Show art
Wheel size explained

Is there a good camera lens that’s also light? (via Matt Richardson)


Matt on Instagram
Pancake lens
Fuji GFX 100RF
APS-C
LensRentals
Sony RX100
Ricoh GR IIIx


Post-show Neutral: CarPlay Ultra

Top Gear review
Previously on ATP
The Vergecast

Members-only ATP Overtime: Meanwhile, in Europe…


European Commission fines Apple & Meta for breaching DMA

Gruber did the math

New smartphone labels for battery life & repairability

Official release
Nutrition label
Energy Star



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640: Put It in a Potato


Pre-show: Marco’s [kinda] brief review of the M4 MacBook Pro


CalDigit TS5

Follow-up:


Letterboxd SF Symbol


Procured via volunteer Alyce D! 💙
Custom Symbols App (App Store link)

AI App Store summaries != spam email filtering (via Kevin Markham)
“A fine is a price” (via Kieran Healy)


A Fine is a Price by Gneezy & Rustichini

Apple 🤝🏻 Anthropic
Apple appeals App Store rule changes
Riley Testut details changes to Delta’s IAP options


More (Ed: 🤣🤣🤣)

Meanwhile, in the App Store…
Home networking corner


Ubiquiti’s consumer line is Amplifi
Try CubiCasa for floor plans (via Colin Robertson)
What Unifi Stuff Should I Buy? (via Thunder God Cid)
Casey’s sitrep


2× U6-LR installed


Ugly PoE injectors

10GbE card installed in Synology
Switches just arrived


Lite 8 PoE
Flex Mini

Camera time?



Apple Turnover

The Art of the Possible
Hypercritical #42: The Wrong Guy
Upgrade #563: Peanut or a Banana

Some fun Apple media


Search Engine: The Dave and Busters Anomaly

Gui Rambo’s investigation

A conversation with Jony Ive

Backblaze drama
Backblaze is a former ATP sponsor

Morpheus Research report
Backblaze’s initial response
Backblaze’s formal response
Profit breakdowns

Post-show: More restaurant-tech MVPs


Cable Matters
Marco’s crimping toolkit

Members-only ATP Overtime: SSD data doesn’t last forever

Video
M-DISC


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639: Crimp the World


Pre-show: Chromebook-block evasions
Follow-up:


At least one person did miss our WWDC sale. 🙁
Vision Pro Corner: StagePlay

Blue Man Group

Epic vs. Apple


The Verge on Apple’s decision making
Apple’s Response
Apple Appeals
App Store rules have been changed
MJ Tsai’s Roundup

Ryan Jones
Gruber
Upgrade #562: Let’s Break the Law

Tim Sweeney continues grandstanding

Fortnite may be coming back… via 🇸🇪?

Epic Games announces plans for a shop for iOS developers

Press release

As was foretold, Stripe has entered the chat

Stripe documentation

Patreon has also entered the chat
Friend of the show Riley Testut works fast
Spotify has also entered the chat

Screenshots



Ubiquiti

Marco Recommendations


Cloud Gateway Max
Switch Ultra
U7 Lite

Cloud Gateway Fiber
changedetection.io
Pushover
magicplan
Ubiquiti Designer

Hyperspace update
Casey’s Coding Corner


Vibe coding journey


GIFWrapped
Casey on Bluesky

SF Symbols journey

Post-show: Marco’s vibe coding journey


LaTeX

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“Vision Air”
XREAL glasses


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638: Hop, Hop, Hop


Pre-show: Marco reaches another milestone


ThinOptics round clear

New ATP Member’s Special: ATP Insider: School, Then and Now
Follow-up:


A surprising Vision Pro corner:


Adventure: Hill Climb
Laura’s Hot Lap
Neutral Special: Please Lose Control of Your Car Now
Laura Hayes Racing (archived)

D. Griffin Jones reviews the Sigma BF

Article
Video
John discusses the design of the Mac Pro

iPadOS window affordances (via Ole Oskar Eriksen)
Synology’s En💩ification (via Erin Power)


Server Part Deals


Judge tells Apple “yeah, no”


9to5 Mac
The Verge
“Kafkaesque”

Marco returns to YouTube

reMarkable 2
Astropad iPad screen film & Apple Pencil tips
Mac Power Users #789: Back to the Mac, with Matt Gemmell
Supernote Manta

Ask ATP:


Is it even possible for Siri to get good? (via David MacQueen)
Do we stll carry wallets? (via Stephen Klinck)


John’s ridiculous wallet

How do we share photos outside of a family unit? (Dylan Copeland)

Post-show Neutral: Slate Truck
Members-only ATP Overtime: AI continues to eat the world

Apple Developer: What’s New
Research paper
LoRA not LoRa


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637: Rotate Those Tennis Balls


🗣️ ATP WWDC 2025 STORE IS UP!! 🗣️
Follow-up:


Casey’s bug-reporting experience with Slack
Third-party SSDs (via J. Mullins)

AliExpress

AirPods Pro case swaps (via Steven Merrill)


USB-C MagSafe Charging Case ($100‼️)

Cursor IDE support hallucinates policy causing user uprising
(This is a Hacker News link to Reddit, so, uh, tread lightly.)
🫏🕳️ leaders are not good
John continues to try to spend Marco’s money


Rtings’ new glare testing
LG G5 brightness

Apple’s self-service repair program (via Sky Velleity)

iPadOS 19 rumors
Footguns and Synology

Enshittification
Ars Technica’s Synology coverage

Post-show: Marco’s first batch of restaurant-tech MVPs


Waveform lighting
Ubiquiti
Power over Ethernet
Toast

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636: Nose-Biting Territory


Pre-show: Casey’s lightly broken his AirPods Pro 2


Porsche Taycan
Ioniq 5
BMW i4
Chevy Bolt

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Follow-up:


12 April: Trump excludes some electronics from tariffs

Message from US Customs & Border Protection
Connor Mason’s post about Tim Cook’s top two skills

13 April: …except maybe not?

John’s boosted post

Cross-platform photo management


Immich (via bapt)

Nintendo Switch 2


4K 120Hz (via Kyle McMahon)


Specifications

Kickstand lumps (via Stuart Gibson)
Other open-world racing games
Console games price history

Dropbox & File Provider
John’s daughter’s college laptop
Folding aspect ratios


iPhone Mini… tri-fold? (via Peter Wagoner)
MKBHD on the Huawei Mate XT

Reverse-engineered Mac mini SSDs (via Jonathan Claydon)


iBoff
Introductory video


How Apple fumbled Siri’s AI makeover

MacRumors summary
More on JG’s Siri leadership
On Robby Walker
Cross-towngroup tensions
That fateful demo
NIH syndrome
New York Times on Apple GPU purchases

Post-show: AI mind-share
Members-only ATP Overtime: Sony announces its 2025 TVs


FlatPanelsHD
The Verge
HDTVTest
Pricing


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635: An Effective Operator


Pre-show: 


Technology Connections on dishwashers
Maestral

How to excise Dropbox

Brave
Firefox
Kagi

Orion

Arc
Palm Pre

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Old hoodie: Bella + Canvas 3909
New hoodie: Bella + Canvas 3729

Follow-up:


Vision Pro corner: 


Voices of VR #1557: Apple Immersive Video BTS

Adventure: Ice Dive

VIP: Yankee Stadium

Feedback on Feedback


Some thoughts on scale (via Matthew Fenselau)


Fermi Paradox

Do indies really get that much email?
A response from Apple‽ 🤨 (via Vítor)

Apple’s big OS redesign


Mark Gurman
Solarium
iOS 19 Leak

Front Page Tech video



Nintendo Switch 2 launch


Launch video
Hands-on:


The Verge
Ars Technica

The Joy-Cons are now mice


Tweet

microSD Express only
Chunky hinges
Pricing

iPhone 17 Pro 48MP zoom lens
Ask ATP:


How do we source reviews of purchases? (via Robert Bateau)
How do I back up my photos?


ATP Insider: Photo Workflows

How do we document complicated setups (via yertle)

Post-show: How do we handle… everything?
Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s all-glass hardware ambitions

All-glass Apple Watch?


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634: We Don’t Have Enough Bees


Pre-show: 


🏳️‍⚧️ Happy Trans Day of Visibility! 🏳️‍⚧️
Happy anniversary, Siracusa!


ATP #476
Hypercritical: Independence Day


Follow-up:


Vision Pro corner: Volume control (via D. Griffin Jones & Victor Prieto)
 & 🇪🇺


Prioritization (via Karan J)
A less complementary take from Thom Holwerda
More theories on behind-closed-doors talks (via illustro)


Case document

Will EU releases whither? (via David Shayer)

An anecdote about John Giannandrea (via Wolf)
Netflix in search on Apple TV (via Ryan Budish)

Sony’s new RGB backlight tech shines

Previously on ATP
Digital Trends
HDTVTest

Folding MacBook? Giant iPad? Folding iPhones? Oh, my!


Neo Cancellation
Display sizes leak

Weibo post
Oppo Find N5

Under-screen Face ID?

Weibo post

“Six Things to Know About Apple’s Upcoming Foldable iPhone”
MKBHD on the Oppo Find N5

Ask ATP:


How do we approach feedback? Why are we held to different standards than Apple?
Are smaller, incremental releases of software killing the joy of a new major version? (via Thom Bullock)


Things You Should Never Do, Part I


Post-show: Casey finally stops kicking another can


Cloudflare Pages
Cloudflare Pages Functions
Example page

Members-only ATP Overtime: Vibe coding

Tim, don’t kill my vibe

Cursor
Replit
v0
Gruber’s response

Fourth-generation programming language
Good Programming Quotes compiled by Henrik Warne
UNIX shell as a fourth-generation language
Swift Assist isn’t even in beta yet

Apple (June 2024)
John Voorhees did get a demo though
kironet’s take



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633: Moonshoot


Pre-show: Marco’s BMW sitrep
🗣️ New ATP Member Special: ATP Insider: Our Websites
Follow-up: 


Vision Pro corner


Spatial Gallery has an update!
Volume control (via Jonathan Gulbrandsen)

Siri delays (via Stephen Klinck)
Gurman on the smart home hub
Apple sued over false Apple Intelligence advertising
Siri shake-up
Threads lets you default to following… for real this time
iPhone 16e


Camera arrangement justifications
MKBHD doesn’t care for it

Full review

Teardown from REWA
Teardown from iFixIt

Battery size comparison


17e already appearing in supply chain?

Weibo post

iPhone 17 Pro: 12GB RAM?

WWDC 2025 Announced
EU requires major changes in iOS 19 & iOS 20

EU post
Timelines

Wi-Fi Aware

Apple stamps its feet
Portless iPhones coming?

AI continues to eat the world

Apple Developer: What’s New

Post-show: Casey has to pay to play


The Movie Database

Members-only ATP Overtime: Solid-state cooling revisited


Frore AirJet

Frore 🤝🏻 iodyne

Dave 2D on a new solid-state fan system
Ventiva
CFM
Pascals
Increasing performance with heat management


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632: The Uncertainty Is Gone


Pre-show: Casey received a present
Follow-up:


Vision Pro Corner: Metallica immersive concert
Colorful Macs


MacBook Adorable

“Hidra”


List of Apple codenames
Hidra

M3/M4 interposers (via Jonathan Dietz Jr.)


M3 Max does not have a D2D (“die-to-die”) interface


EE Times 🇯🇵
Tech Insights

…nor does the M4 Max
Reticle limits
Apple Silicon info Google Sheet

Apple’s multi-OS redesign (via Jon Tatum)


Under the Radar #314: Optimism vs. Pessimism


Something is Rotten in the State of Cupertino

Apple confirms [one] Siri delay
Upgrade #555: What You Are Is What You Ship
SMOP: Simple Matter Of Programming

Ask ATP:


Do we set our phones on a surface face-up or face-down? (via Aaron Bushnell)
What’s up with version numbers these days? (via Joe O’Connor)


Semantic Versioning


Post-show: Restaurant soft opening results
Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple News+ Food

Paprika


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631: The Colors Are the Pepperoni


Pre-show: Marco went to the bank wrong
Follow-up:


Vision Pro Corner


New Adventure episode: Deep Water Solo
Spatial Gallery
Metallica immersive special is coming

Virginia Tech 🤝🏻 Enter Sandman


iPad Air corner


“2× bass” false alarm


404

Appeal


Affordable big screen (notes John Spurlock)
🗣️ ARE YOU LISTENING APPLE PEOPLE LIKE COLOR 🗣️ (via Ryan Manly)


Portrait-only iPad apps (via Matt Rippetoe)


Example video from Fabian

More on colors (via Yossi Kanner)
MacBook Air’s keyboard has new mute iconography
Regarding the “Hidra”


ATP #562: Do You Have a Dragon?

Interview with Srouji (timestamp link)

Lernaean Hydra

Gurman on the M4 Ultra & Hidra
Early M3 Ultra benchmarks from Geekbench 6

GPU: M3 Ultra Metal: 259,668


10% faster than M2 Ultra Mac Studio’s best at 231,757
20% faster than M2 Ultra Mac Studio’s average at 209,003

CPU:


M3 Ultra single core: 3,144


~10% faster than M2 Ultra Mac Studio’s best at 2,813
~20% slower than M4 Max MacBook Pro’s average at 3,921

M3 Ultra multi-core: 28,119


~25% faster than M2 Ultra Mac Studio’s average at 21,373
~10% faster than M4 Max MacBook Pro’s average at 25,647


More from Ars Technica

Apple is working on a larger iMac? (AKA John tries to save face)


ATP #473: Fanboats and Coattails (Overcast link to 1:31:16)

Threads timeline setting update


ATP #616: I Have No Grippers
The Verge’s article (25 November 2024)

Thoughts on Feedback

Apple is allegedly “dramatically” redesigning the UI for its next OSes
Post-show: John’s speaker update


Vanatoo Transparent Zero Plus
ADAM Audio D3V
Kanto ORA

Kanto S2 speaker stands

Kanto ORA4

Kanto S4 speaker stands

SoundSource

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VW’s ID.Every1 Concept
Physical buttons are coming back! 🥹

ID.2all concept
The Verge’s coverage
Volvo ES90
Euro NCAP puts their foot down



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630: Time to Spiral


🗣️ New ATP Member Special: ATP Tier List: Corporate Logos
Tim Cook teaser

History lesson

Mac Studio

General announcement
M3 Ultra announcement
M3 Ultra


Ars Technica
It is 2× M3 Max
According to to 🇫🇷 website: no interposer in M4 Max
Gurman in April 2024


M4 MacBook Air

Announcement

iPad

6GB RAM, as was foretold
Gurman misssed on this one

iPad Air

Announcement 
Audio regression?

Post-show: 


Casey does free labor for Apple
John’s computer speakers are dying ☹️


Possible replacement #1: Kanto ORA
Possible replacement #2: Kanto ORA4


Members-only ATP Overtime: Siri is falling ever-further behind


Next-gen Siri is delayed? (14 February)
Apple Intelligence Reaches Make-or-Break Point? (3 March)
Siri remains trash
Amazon steps up to the AI plate

Interview with Panos Panay



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629: An Upsetting and Confusing Time to Be Me


Pre-show: Marco messed with the system


Zoom F1
USB Pre 2
Schiit Jotunheim

Follow-up: 


New “Boundless” immersive episode: Arctic Surfing

Bono Autobiography

Prospects for humanoid robots
macOS testing (via Anonymous)
With apologies to Joe Rosensteel

Exhibit A
Exhibit B
Exhibit C

Netflix’s Apple TV integration


It’s more than just the app (via Serena)
What purpose does the TV app serve? (via Daniel Luz)
Implementation details (via Anonymous)

iPhone 16e

Name implications
Possible role? (via Patch)

Apple C1


MagSafe isn’t a problem

No, really

C1 is “just the start”

Wendover video link

It’s really quite impressive (via Pedro Fernandes)


0.0000000000000316 W

Andru Edwards’ Behind-the-Scenes Tour
Qualcomm licensure? (via Casey in episode 476 at around 40m)


FTC vs. Qualcomm
2018 article on licensing costs
The licensing costs were also lowered in 2018

Gurman on future Cx chips

Apple investigates custom Wi-Fi chips as well
Apple approves new wording for emails

Not just in the EU

Apple pulls Advanced Data Protection in the UK

Full statement
Screenshot
Time for pressure (via Berbakay)


🎉 Hyperspace is out!!! 🎉
iPhone 17 camera bumps

Leak

Apple pledges $500B domestic spend

Upgrade #552: Table for Six
Woes in North Carolina

Post-show: The Hyperspace icon
Members-only ATP Overtime: New “Apple-like” camera: Sigma BF

Introductory video
PetaPixel’s first reaction
L-Mount lens


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628: There’s a Certain Smell


Pre-show: Restaurant adventures continue


VoIP
ATA
Ubiquiti Managed VoIP

Follow-up: 


Apple Account transfers


Updated restrictions & guidelines
Stephen’s take

The UK’s no-good, very-bad law


WSJ opinion piece by Green & Stamos
Matthew Green’s blog post

macOS UNIX compliance
Goodbye, Humane. We hardly knew you. And you hardly knew anything.


Jay Peters at The Verge
Humane press release
Humane support document


iPhone 16e announced

Intro video

Apple TV app is now on Android
Netflix and foot-guns


The Verge, 14 February, 9:25 AM: Hell hath frozen over

Screenshot of linking Netflix account
Apple TV app

The Verge, 14 February, 2:17 PM: Netflix says “our bad”
Joe Rosensteel

Post-show: An update on Casey’s status board


Installation photo
HomeSeer HS-WD200+
Dongle
ZWave
ZWaveJS UI

Members-only ATP Overtime: Robots are, like, so in right now.


Meta

Bloomberg coverage

Tesla

As usual, Elon is a blowhard

Google
Apple

Kuo’s tweet



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627: Dragged Across the Line


Follow-up: 


Flighty has other perks (via Stephen Klinck)
First reports of Invites use in the wild (via Jim Weinert)
You can use a cable with Sidecar (via Matt West)
Why not use a Wi-Fi hotspot for “cellar Macs”?


Tailgate Tub

Why not AirPlay to Sonos speakers? (via Ryan Powers)
DeepSeek censorship across models (via Sebastian Raschka)


Technical report

Has Apple ever… used… Screen Time? (via Jonathan)
macOS UNIX certification (via Paulo Pinto)


Thom at OSnews

Migrate purchases from one Apple Account to another
The new JoyCons do act as a mouse
An alternative for Apple TV audio (via Nicholas Correnti)


/r/TVTooHigh

Casey’s new arrivals


WS2812B Addressable LED strip

Home is Where the Smart Is
WLED
ESP32

TRMNL

Hyperspace updates


Reclaim 1️⃣ file for real!
Slack

An aside about bug reporting

Apple ordered to open encrypted user accounts globally for the UK

Original Washington Post article
BBC coverage

ELEGNT: Expressive & Functional Movement Design for Non-Anthropomorphic Robot
Ask ATP:


What planning/wireframing tools do we use? (via Glen Lam)
Is HFS+ still relevant in 2025? (via Mike Hatfield)


QNAP

Would John tell us more about the many pieces of detritus associated with files? (via Leon Cowle)

Post-show: Restaurant-tech update


Dante
Ubiquiti Flex (Useful little PoE switch)
Ubiquiti Flex 2.5G PoE (2.5G version with 10G uplink)
Ubiquiti Switch Flex XG (10G switch)

Members-only ATP Overtime: iOS 19 UI rumors and the design language of Apple Invites

Jon Prosser’s video
Invites & Sports apps


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626: No Longer ery Good


Pre-show: BBQ


ZZQ
Q

Follow-up: 


New immersive video: Man vs. Beast
“Historical Commission”?
Sonos volume changes are local
DeepSeek censorship mechanism (via Matthew Cave)
Docker


Rosetta (via Brian Reiter)


Hypervisor.framework

Docker vs. OrbStack (also via Brian Reiter)
Sending email


Mailhog (via Matt Barlow)
Mailpit (via John Caruso)
Maildev (via Yves Serrano)

ddev.com (via Bram Esposito)
Also consider Development Containers (via Dewald Reynecke)

Marco’s TV audio sync issues


Match Format and Match Dynamic Range (via Marco Arment)
Quick Media Switching


Previously on ATP…
QMS marketing page
Demo video (via Nit)



Apple Invites

App Store
Web
Competitive (and very similar) app Partiful
It’s not great on Android
Demo video from Stephen Robles
Flighty
Sorry, iPad

Pornography on the iPhone

AltStore’s post
Riley’s response
AltStore’s second response
Jason’s take

Ask ATP:


Why are Casey and Marco so excited for cellular Macs? (via Matthew Fenselau)
Should one use their personal Apple ID on a corporate Mac (via Stephen Swift)


Localsend
↪️ Gruber
↪️ Underscore
Luna Display
Synergy


Post-show: Marco had a good weekend.


Dante
Food Safety Talk

Members-only ATP Overtime: Subsequent Sonos Stuff


Sonos’ take on the Apple TV?

Ventura OS?

Sonos has another round of layoffs

Letter from interim CEO Tom Conrad



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625: Time and Smoke


🗣️ New ATP Movie Club Special! Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
Follow-up: 


Honda Prologue vs. GM equivalents (via Matt Rigby)
Apple insists it’s still going to make fetch happen ship next-generation CarPlay
Handheld gaming PCs are having a moment

Lenovo Legion Go S

Ryan London is trolling John


Black
Brown

John has so much RAM, he can’t even remember how much he has
Hyperspace scrolling updates


AppKit vs. WebKit
NSCell vs. NSTableViewCell
Every UUID
Writing down every UUID

Not all phone jacks are created equal (via John Haydon)
Casey’s notification/LED project


Garage door ↔ home assistant was already sorted


Home Assistant Nice G.O. integration
ratgdo

ESP32

ESPHome

Did you know you can just straight-up cut some LED strips‽ (via Kiel Olesen)


WS2812B
Candy buttons

Historical commission application process
Switch replacement options:


HomeSeer HS-WX300 (via Drew Stephens)
Inovelli Smart Dimmer (via everyone, including Drew Stephens)



DeepSeek causes a tech stock sell-off

Siri Is Super Dumb and Getting Dumber
Ben Thompson’s FAQ
DeepSeek-V3 paper
DeepSeek distilled GPT-4o?
R1 is more open than OpenAI


OpenAI’s justification for hiding chain of thought

Interview with DeepSeek CEO Liang Wenfeng
R1 censorship


Example 1
Example 2 (via Greg Pierce)
Example 3 (via Gruber)
Prompt engineering
The Questions the Chinese Government Doesn’t Want DeepSeek AI to Answer
Self-hosted doesn’t seem to censor


Post-show: Marco wants to do some local web development


x86 images on Apple Silicon

Members-only ATP Overtime: Sonos Shakeup


Sonos CEO Patrick Spence exits ✌️
…and also Chief Product Officer Maxime Boulat-Merlin ✌️
…and also Chief Commercial Officer Deidre Findlay
Wall Street Journal coverage
The Last King of Scotland


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624: Do Less Math in Computers


Pre-show: #GALP 🏳️‍🌈❤️🏳️‍⚧️


Jeff Atwood: Stay Gold, America

Follow-up: 


Apple pauses notification summaries for news apps
Marco’s BMW does have dual-screen CarPlay
Acura RSX: Honda’s first all-original EV
Another 5K monitor enters the arena: ViewSonic VP2788-5K

Thom Bullock’s tweet
As per Dave Hamilton (of Mag Geek Gab), $800!

Fast directory sizing lives!


/System/Library/Filesystems/apfs.fs/Contents/Resources/apfs.util
man apfs.util

Apple sample code is on GitHub (via David Rönnqvist)


Backyard Birds
Food Truck

Video of an iPhone 16 Pro upgrade 128 GB → 1 TB (via Joe Beninato)


Also on YouTube

Tim Cook on Table Manners with Jessie & Lennie Ware

Overcast link


Hyperspace updates


Van Halen’s Brown M&Ms
John’s Hyperspace Instructions

Ask ATP:


What should a nerd consider when buying a house? (via Jeremy Kelleher)


MoCA


Post-show: Casey’s Rube Goldberg machine… simplified?


ATP #376: Monogamous Gaming Lifestyle
Raspberry Pi Zero WH
UDP
Homebridge
Home Assistant
MQTT

Mosquitto

Eric Welander

Members-only ATP Overtime: Nintendo Switch 2 announced

The Verge coverage


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623: It’s About Human Connection


Follow-up: 


AirPod noises


Gui Rambo & AirBuddy
One of the noises is “the case battery is low” (via Zach)


Also, more on status lights (via Tom French)

Another noise is a calibration noise (via Ian Williamson)


Knowledge base

How to turn off charging sounds
Look, ma! We’re famous!
AirPod Noises (via Patch)

TVs at CES 2025

Hisense’s 116UX with RGB mini-backlight

Digital Trends coverage
HDTVTest coverage

DLSS

History (via Hampus Jensen)
Explanation (via flunkedflank)
Digital Foundry explanation video


Mac monitors


Some foreign options (via Henry Chen)


MacRumors thread
Kuycon G27-X

Another option (via Tim Ngwena)


Asus ProArt Display 6K PA32QCV
Quick look video
DisplayHDR 600 spec


Dynamic Island Live Alert (via Dan Engler)

🤮 Tim Cook donates $1 million to Trump inaguration 🤮


The Verge
Google and Microsoft join in
Citizens United
Nvidia bends a knee
Charles Erwin Wilson’s nomination for Secretary of Defense

TestFlight subscriptions on macOS
TestFlight for ATP members

Name reveal
Manage subscriptions API

Marco and Casey price John’s app
Post-show Neutral:


Winter report card for Tina’s Civic
Casey has connected Erin’s car to Home Assistant
Marco’s new[-ish] car update

Members-only ATP Overtime: Honda EVs at CES


Afeela (Honda 🤝🏻 Sony) 1
Honda Zero

Ars Technica

Acura NSX
F-4 Phantom II
F-16 Fighting Falcon


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622: Duplicate Garbage Generation Process


Pre-show: Our AirPods are trying to talk to us but we can’t understand them


20k Hz

The Sound of Apple 1.0
The Sound of Apple 2.0
Auto-Tone (Rivian)

statuslight.com

Follow-up: 


That gas car review post that Marco was thinking of


Former example
Actual link we couldn’t [previously] find (via K)
Another example
And another

The Find My app can make Macs make noise (via Miles)
Maybe iOS 18’s Photos app isn’t all bad? (via Tim Luft)
The Magic Mouse

The Apology Mouse did not have side buttons
The Mighty Mouse did
MKBHD’s blind ranking interview with Tim Cook

Editorialized reel

What will the new one be?


Ridiculous mouse rumor

Gurman’s take
Hello, Computer

Death to buttons?
Death to ports? (In the name of handedness)
Maybe ape the Logitech MX Anywhere? (via Karan J)
Perhaps a common charging approach?


Apple already makes Wi-Fi & Bluetooth chips (via Ian Williamson)
Meshtastic is another application for John and Casey’s new favorite thing, LoRa (via James Andrews)

CES 2025

TVs


What’s John got his eyes on?
Sony 💔
Samsung’s new QD-OLED

HDTVTest
Digital Trends

LG’s flagship goes MLA → Tandem OLED

Microlens
Tandem OLED

Panasonic talks about the new LG panel

“Primary RGB Tandem OLED Panel”
HDTVTest on the Z95B

More “AI” coming to TVs ☹️
Big TVs are big

LG Unveils UltraFine 6K Display with Thunderbolt 5

Recent ATP Overtime on monitors was in Episode #618
Dell UltraSharp 32 6K Monitor “U3224KB”

Dell no longer makes XPS computers

Mocked at their own launch is not a great look
Engadget’s take

Nvidia’s announcements


Nvidia announces RTX 5090 and 5080 GPUs

DLSS 4

Explainer video from Nvidia

Deep learning super sampling
John’s post featuring a video about the responsiveness of touch interfaces

Nvidia AI supercomputer “Digits”
~~Concepts of~~ a plan for desktop CPU


TestFlight access to John’s app is [likely] coming for ATP members only
Post-show: 


Thanks, Patrons 💙
Marco bought something.


HDCP


Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple Intelligence summaries may get warning labels

BBC report 1 and report 2
Apple’s response
Allen Pike’s Apple Intelligence evaluation


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621: I’ll Meet You Any Time You Want


Pre-show: 


Holiday results


Steven Levy: Gone, Without a Trace

Casey’s impending mess
John needs technical support

Follow-up: 


Satirical posts about gas cars from the perspective of EV owners


FotS Spencer’s find (discussed on the show)
The one we were actually thinking of (found afterward by K, thanks!)

On Recents in the Finder sidebar


Michael Starke points out it isn’t new
Odin points out it’s a default
Joe Lion has complaints

Possible next-generation Vision Pro displays (via Erich Jurgens)


Vison Pro teardown
Samsung’s screen breakthrough
Sony’s OLED microdisplay

Be suspect of iPhone Mirroring on corporate Macs

Original blog post
~/Library/Daemon Containers/{…}/Data/Library/Caches


iOS 18 Photos hate (via Quinn)
Apple’s Wi-Fi & Bluetooth chip, and Magic Mouse update?

MKBHD asks Tim Cook about the Magic Mouse

Post-show: Casey has joined the YoLink bandwagon


Casey’s super-shady installation
LoRa
Casey’s starter pack
YoLink FAQ
John’s starter pack
Water Leak Detector
YoLink store at Amazon

Members-only ATP Overtime: Fast Directory Sizing


WWDC 2016 #701: Introducing Apple File System


Direct video link
Slides PDF

About Apple File System
Apple File System Reference
dirstat.h
dirstat.c


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620: Mostly Cookies


Pre-show: 


New member special: ATP Insider: Making The Show

Become an ATP Member to listen
ATP Gift Memberships


Follow-up: 


“Hey, Future Marco” wasn’t discussed on the member’s special (via Martim)


Can Marco recognize waveforms?
Descript

Emo Siri


It started before 18.2 (via Dan Mielcarz)
She pahks heah cah… sometimes? (via Dave Martin)

Immersive video


More about the Blackmagic immersive camera (via videoalex)


Insta360 Titan

Software-based immersive video


Depth Anything

Immersive video prior art (via James O’Loughlin)


Welcome to Light Fields
Deep View Video

Neural Radiance Fields for View Synthesis (via Joseph Humfre)


Demo for the Meta Quest


John’s app


More on Smart Update and clones from Dave Nanian
Unexpected gains in software (via Peter Marks)
Why even bother, asks Harvey Simon


New Vision Pro content — again!
Apple and bootable macOS backups

Mike Bombich at Carbon Copy Cloner has thoughts

Original blog post from May 2021
Secure boot
asr: Apple Software Restore


Ask ATP:


Does the new Recents item in Finder conflict with Apple’s privacy stance? (via Cira Mazzola)
What’s the correct location to save random scripts? (via tuckerk)


~/bin
/usr/local/bin

Do we use the macOS firewall? (via Saul Sutherland)
What are we using for cameras these days? (via Torstein)


Fuji X-T5: black recommended for control legibility


27mm pancake (41mm equiv.)
16-50 zoom (24-76mm equiv.): small, light, great quality
16-55 f/2.8 II zoom (24-84mm equiv.): surprisingly small and light for f/2.8, great quality

Fuji GFX 100S (old version; this is the current one)


50mm “pancake” (40mm equiv.)

Olympus OM-D E-M10
Sony a7 III

SEL2470GM2 Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM II



Post-show: Erin’s Volvo XC90 PHEV, ~6 months on


Including a detour to discuss professional Christmas light installation

Members-only ATP Overtime: The Best & Worst of 2024

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619: Master Plan to Take Over the World


New member-exclusive ATP Insider: Making The Show
Follow-up: 


John’s [hopefully] (?) forthcoming app


A funny conspiracy theory shared by Thomas Alvarez
Christian Kent’s correction/joke
More app name ideas…
Experts have weighed in on John’s idea
Alternative space-saving idea from Timm Schoof

Using self-service parts for upgrade is not really possible because ✨software✨

Pinstripes are back, baby!


Jeff Johnson

Reddit post


Is Siri… emotional… now?
Marco’s new e-ink toy

Integrations
API
Note that it’s backordered for a bit

New Wildlife immersive video episode
Blackmagic announces immersive video camera

_’s toot
Quicktime VR
Matterport

Apple Vision Pro 🤝 PlayStation VR2 Controllers

PlayStation VR2
Steve Jobs quoting Alan Kay
People who are really serious about software should make their own hardware.

Post-show: John’s app progress


Casey’s thoughts on [dire lack of] Apple documentation
Meet StoreKit for SwiftUI (WWDC 2023)
Apple’s Backyard Birds sample app
map(_:)
Hacking with Swift

Members-only ATP Overtime: The Mac monitor situation


5K is 5120 × 2880
Marc Edwards’ chart
Samsung ViewFinity S9 5K

At the time of recording, on sale for $720
Jason’s review

ASUS ProArt Display 5K PA27JCV Professional Monitor

Review by D. Griffin Jones

BenQ PD2730S
ASUS ProArt Display 6K PA32QCV
Apple’s plans


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