This episode was recorded when Ron Steslow was host of The Lincoln Project Podcast (www.lincolnproject.us). He is no longer affiliated with the organization. This feed is now the home of Politicology. Ron Steslow sits down with former Republican communications director and Senior Advisor to The Lincoln Project, Tara Setmayer. This wide-ranging conversation touches on the history of the Republican Party’s relationship with race, what has changed from Lincoln to Trump, the reemergence of the confederate flag and our recent ad, “Flag of Treason,” Trump’s response to the George Floyd protests, all of which are happening on the backdrop of the COVID-19 pandemic. You can hear more from Tara on her podcast, “Honestly Speaking with Tara Setmayer.