You're Wrong About

You're Wrong About

By Michael Hobbes & Sarah Marshall

Mike and Sarah are journalists obsessed with the past. Every week they reconsider a person or event that's been miscast in the public imagination.

Episodes

Disco Demolition Night

Mike tells Sarah how a silly sports promotion galvanized a reactionary movement. Digressions include “Charlotte’s Web,” Jane Fonda and German-language musicals. Songs are dissected; the honor of David Bowie and late-night salad bars are defended.Huge thanks to historians Tavia Nyong'o, Eric Gonzaba, Luis-Manuel Garcia and Gillian Frank for helping Mike with this episode! Support us: http://patreon.com/yourewrongabouthttp://paypal.me/yourewrongabouthttps://www.teepublic.com/stores/youre-wrong-about?ref_id=10420Links!  Tavia Nyong'o's "I Feel Love: Disco and Its Discontents"Gillian Frank's excellent article on disco and his delightful podcastLuis-Manuel Garcia's alternate history of club culture and dissection of the gay left's opposition to discoAlice Echols' "Hot Stuff"  Bill Brewster and Frank Broughton's "Last Night a DJ Saved My Life: The History of the Disc Jockey"   Tim Lawrence's "Love Saves the Day: A History of American Dance Music Culture, 1970-1979" Peter Shapiro's "Turn the Beat Around: The Secret History of Disco"Undone did a great episode on Disco Demolition Night“The Flip Sides of 1979”“Tribal Rites of the New Saturday Night,” the (fabricated) New York Magazine story that inspired “Saturday Night Fever”Tony Smith interview"Disco and The Queering of the Dance Floor"Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
03/08/201h 37m

Murder

Mike tells Sarah about the most common forms of violence in America and how they differ (twist!) from what gets shown on TV. Digressions include Perry Mason, “It’s A Wonderful Life” and fruit-toting strategies. Mike appears not to understand the meaning of the term “order of magnitude.” This episode contains descriptions of police violence; the last 15 minutes are just a huge bummer generally. Support us: http://patreon.com/yourewrongabouthttp://paypal.me/yourewrongabouthttps://www.teepublic.com/stores/youre-wrong-about?ref_id=10420Links!  Monica Bell's "Anti-Segregation Policing"Daanika Gordon's "The Police as Place-Consolidators: The Organizational Amplification of Urban Inequality”"Homicide Investigations in Context: Exploring Explanations for the Divergent Impacts of Victim Race, Gender, Elderly Victims, and Firearms on Homicide Clearances""Homicide Arrest Clearances: A Review of the Literature""Assessing and Responding to the Recent Homicide Rise in the United States""Can Homicide Detectives Improve Homicide Clearance Rates?""Effective Police Homicide Investigations: Evidence from Seven Cities with High Clearance Rates""Wrongful Convictions, Policing, and the 'Wars on Crime and Drugs'""Did De-Policing Cause the Increase in Homicide Rates?"The DOJ's Antelope Valley Investigation"Explaining the Recent Decline in Domestic Violence""Gender Differences in Patterns and Trends in U.S. Homicide, 1976–2015""Police Responses to Violent Crime: Reconsidering the Mobilization of Law""What Caused the Crime Decline?"Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
27/07/201h 0m

Deep Dive Week 3: Nancy Grace v. The Jury

This week, Sarah walks Mike through Nancy Grace’s prosecution of American juries. Cameos include Mark Geragos (again), O.J. Simpson (inevitably) and Jessica Hahn (thank God). Gus Van Sant’s masterpiece "To Die For" is discussed at length. Support us: http://patreon.com/yourewrongabouthttp://paypal.me/yourewrongabouthttps://www.teepublic.com/stores/youre-wrong-about?ref_id=10420Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
20/07/2039m 14s

Bonus Episode! Sarah and Mike on "The Feminist Present" Podcast

Sarah and Mike tell Laura and Adrian about how we met, how we research and what we would say to Jessica Simpson if we ever met her.Support us: http://patreon.com/yourewrongabouthttp://paypal.me/yourewrongabouthttps://www.teepublic.com/stores/youre-wrong-about?ref_id=10420Follow the The Feminist Present here: gender.stanford.edu/podcastSupport the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
16/07/2055m 23s

Deep Dive Week 2: Nancy Grace v. The Defense

This week, Nancy Grace makes her case against defense attorneys in general and Scott Peterson’s lawyer in particular. Digressions include Batman, tough on crime mixtapes and the Iraq War. After two and a half years, Sarah finds her first Satanic cult — but maybe the real Satanic cults are the friends we made along the way. This episode summarizes the cases in Nancy Grace’s "Objection!," which include two child molestation and murder cases and a lengthy description of the autopsy report on the deaths of Laci and Connor Peterson.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy T-shirts, mugs or face masks!Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
13/07/2055m 15s

Koko The Gorilla

“It’s interesting that we became enthusiastic about ASL in the process of teaching it to a population that couldn’t benefit from it.”Mike tells Sarah about a very special ape and the very problematic humans around her. Digressions include video dating, "Biography" and the terrible terrible inventor of the telephone. We start with a SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT about the future of the show. Both co-hosts understand the difference between chimps, monkeys and apes but occasionally misspeak.For a transcript of this episode (Thanks Andrea!), click here or copy-paste:https://rottenindenmark.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/YWA-Koko-the-Gorilla-Transcript.pdf Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy T-shirts, mugs or face masks!Links!Marcus Perlman, the researcher Mike interviewed!"Human and Animal Cognition: Continuity and Discontinuity""In Memorium: Koko, A Remarkable Gorilla""What Do Talking Apes Really Tell Us?" “Monkey Business”“Talk to the Animals,” the 1980 Omni article“Animal Bodies, Human Minds: Ape, Dolphin, and Parrot Language Skills”1979 New York Magazine article on Herb Terrace“The Last Distinction?”“The Sad Twilight of Koko The Gorilla and Her 'Mother'”“Why Koko Can’t Talk”“The Other Side of Silence: Sign Language and the Deaf Community in America”“The Education of Koko”Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
06/07/201h 20m

Courtney Love

Special guest Candace Opper tells Mike and Sarah how a grunge star became the protagonist in one of America's most persistent conspiracy theories. Digressions include Neil Young, protest songs and the coolest baby of the 1990s. Mike continues to mine his public school education for anatomically impossible rumors. This episode contains detailed descriptions of suicide.Pre-order Candace's book, check out her website or follow her Tweets! Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy T-shirts, mugs or face masks!Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
29/06/201h 16m

"The Prom Mom"

“The criminal justice system should treat everyone like a white teenage girl whose future it’s concerned about disrupting.” Sarah tells Mike about Melissa Drexler, the New Jersey teenager who (according to George F. Will) killed her newborn baby due to the influence of Metallica and the United States Supreme Court. Digressions include Baby Moses laws, “Citizen Ruth” and Ted Bundy’s political leanings. To the surprise of no one, we end up discussing true crime tropes in great detail.This episode contains detailed descriptions of neonaticide. Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy mugs, T-shirts and face masks!Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
25/06/2054m 13s

Deep Dive: Nancy Grace's "Objection!" (Week 1)

Sarah tells Mike how a superhero’s genesis was a supervillain’s origin story all along. In our new deep dive, we tackle Nancy Grace’s “Objection!” and debate how defendants should behave at trial, why prosecutors seem to make good daytime TV stars and whether Nancy really came to New York City with a curling iron and a dream.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
18/06/2043m 24s

The O.J. Simpson Trial: The Bronco Chase

On June 17, 1994, the world screeched to a halt so 95 million Americans could watch a white SUV crawl through L.A. Today, we finally talk about the infamous Bronco chase, the men inside the car and the myth they left behind. Digressions include “The Fugitive,” Larry King and Jack Nicholson twice. Like previous episodes about the events of this day, this episode discusses suicidal ideation.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy a cute T-shirt!Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
17/06/201h 5m

Quarantine Deep Dive: Jessica Simpson’s “Open Book” (The Conclusion!)

“You really shouldn’t date people who go in thinking, ’This person has good bones but they’re a fixer-upper.’” This week, we complete our Jessica Simpson book club with the appearance of a new man who triggers some old anxieties. Digressions include Dolly Parton, mom jeans and a forgotten Hollywood power couple. We talk about “Garden State” longer than we intended. Mike finally gets to tell the octopus story, which he thinks about all the time. Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
08/06/201h 12m

Re-Release: The Stonewall Uprising

In honor of Pride Month and revolutions past, present, and future, we're re-releasing our episode on the Stonewall Uprising. Let the sunshine in. Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
04/06/201h 19m

Anastasia

“I’m being pulled into planet myth … and I like it here.” Special guest Dana Schwartz tells Mike and Sarah how a short, brutal story became an enduring myth. Digressions include Titanic nostalgia, Princess Jasmine and Dr. Phil. A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to Rasputin, Russia’s greatest love machine.  Find Dana at her website or listen to her podcast!Support us: Subscribe, donate or buy a cute T-shirt!Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
01/06/201h 1m

Quarantine Deep Dive: Jessica Simpson’s “Open Book” (Week 3)

We discuss Jessica's reality-show marriage and its painfully ordinary end. Digressions include "Showgirls," "The Notebook" and Adam Levine. "Hamlet" makes an appearance; Willie Nelson and Lynda Carter give sage advice. Mike apologizes for things out of his control. Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
28/05/201h 8m

The Disappearance of Chandra Levy

“It’s a mess and a nightmare and maybe it’s disingenuous to think you can turn the story of someone being murdered into anything else.” Mike tells Sarah about a missing intern, a shady politician and a nationwide obsession. Digressions include speed dial, “La La Land” and Perry Mason. The Summer of the Shark gets a bonus debunking.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Links!”Finding Chandra: A True Washington Murder Mystery”Gary Condit’s book, “Actual Malice”The Washington Post’s 13-part series on the investigationAn American Journalism Review article on how the Chandra Levy saga took off A deep dive on Condit’s Connie Chung interview Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
25/05/201h 34m

Quarantine Deep Dive: Jessica Simpson’s “Open Book” (Week 2)

“Her parents’ financial success is dependent on her abdomen.” This week, Jessica moves to L.A., records a video and meets a boy. The celebrity cameos escalate. Digressions include overalls, werewolves and Judy Garland. This episode unfortunately contains detailed descriptions of disordered eating.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff! Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
14/05/201h 8m

Quarantine Deep Dive: Jessica Simpson’s “Open Book” (Week 1)

Our journey through late-'90s pop stardom begins with an intervention and ends with an audition. Digressions include Willie Nelson, Ozzy Osbourne, Jane Fonda and the cast of the Mickey Mouse Club. Sarah’s English degree and exercise habits make appearances. This episode, we're sorry to say, contains descriptions of sexual abuse. Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
07/05/2056m 29s

The Y2K Bug

Mike tells Sarah how an obscure technical glitch became a nationwide mobilization. Digressions include Twitter beefs, “The Net” and VHS pricing. We spend much of the episode roasting our own work from the relatively recent past.Correction: It seems the women in Britain didn't terminate their pregnancies due to the false positive test results. We were wrong about this and we're sorry! Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
04/05/2058m 28s

Quarantine Book Club: “Michelle Remembers” (Week 5)

We conclude our book club with Michelle's escape from the dungeon. The dead baby trend continues; Jesus, the Virgin Mary and Satan’s fingernails make brief appearances. Digressions include Dustin Hoffman, “Total Eclipse of the Heart” and things that rhyme with Beelzebub.  This episode contains references to child abuse and sexual assault.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
30/04/201h 14m

The O.J. Simpson Trial: When Kato Met Marcia

Sarah tells Mike about the clash of the titans, the fury at the grand jury. We follow Kato, the wise fool of the kingdom, for the week between the murders and the Bronco chase. Digressions include John Travolta, French kickboxing movies and "The Mummy." The celebrity cameos are less numerous than usual but no less absurd. Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff! Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
27/04/2057m 24s

Quarantine Book Club: “Michelle Remembers” (Week 4)

This week, our lithe psychiatrist takes his favorite patient hiking, a priest burns some furniture and Michelle tries to escape her remembering. This episode contains descriptions of kitten sacrifice, sexual abuse and three more dead babies.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
23/04/2054m 39s

Quarantine Book Club: “Michelle Remembers” (Week 3)

Sarah and Mike continue into the depths. With Dr. Pazder home from Mexico, he and Michelle continue their journey into her subconscious, and the stories continue to get weirder. This episode contains kitten sacrifice, and the first—but not the last—dead baby of the Satanic panic.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
16/04/201h 1m

Marie Antoinette

“What’s sad about her has nothing to do with the content of her character.” Special guest Dana Schwartz tells Mike and Sarah how an Austrian princess became a French scapegoat. Digressions include Rubik’s Cubes, Taylor Swift and Tom Stoppard. The use of the word “bawdy” exceeds all previous episodes combined.Here's where to find DanaAnd here's how to support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
13/04/201h 13m

Quarantine Book Club: “Michelle Remembers” (Week 2)

Sarah and Mike continue their journey into the book that launched a thousand lawsuits. Michelle and Dr. Pazder’s relationship grows more troubling by the chapter. Digressions include orgy etiquette, sheepskin jackets and “Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.” Neither co-host believes anything depicted in this book happened as described, but still want to warn you that it contains scenes of torture and sexual abuse.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
06/04/201h 7m

The Exploding Ford Pinto

Mike tells Sarah about a dying industry, a dangerous car and the Pulitzer Prize-winning article that misrepresented them both. Digressions include “Mission Impossible,” “Friday the 13th” and the naming conventions of academic articles. This episode contains a larger-than-usual number of dad jokes and a shocking revelation about Johnny Carson.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
02/04/2056m 21s

Quarantine Book Club: “Michelle Remembers” (Week 1)

Sarah describes the spark that ignited the Satanic Panic. Our setting is a therapist’s office in 1976 Victoria, B.C., and our digressions include Sybil, scary paperbacks from the 80s and shouting "Fire!" on a crowded theater. This episode describes child abuse.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff! Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
26/03/2048m 27s

D.C. Snipers Part 4

In the final chapter of our series on the D.C. sniper attacks, Mike finally tells Sarah about the D.C. sniper attacks. Digressions include “The Abyss,” Ed Rooney and Jack the Ripper. We begin the episode with an update on our quarantine plans. Sarah misremembers the name of the TV show she was on.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff! Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
23/03/201h 51m

The O.J. Simpson Trial: Marcia Clark Part 2

Sarah tells Mike about a week in the life of Marcia Clark, who became America’s most famous prosecutor on June 13, 1994. Digressions include car phones, college group work and “Titanic” (as usual). In keeping with the theme of this episode, Sarah had a bad feeling about recording without her mic screen, but Mike said it would be fine. Please excuse our p-pops.This episode contains descriptions of murder and sexual violence.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
09/03/2059m 41s

D.C. Snipers Part 3

Mike tells Sarah about the indoctrination of Lee Boyd Malvo and the beginning of the sniper attacks. Digressions include Jonestown, Greek tragedy and something called “creepy crawling.” The episode begins with a lengthy meta-discussion of true-crime tropes and whether we are playing into them. The final section includes a detailed description of a suicide attempt. Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
24/02/201h 35m

Valentine’s Day Re-Release: Anna Nicole Smith

Valentine’s Day re-release! Sarah and Mike reflect on one of the only love stories they’ve ever covered on the show.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
14/02/201h 2m

Why Didn’t Anyone Go to Prison for the Financial Crisis?

“Every big fish you catch, you end up with a hole in the net.” Mike tells Sarah how America’s white-collar crime spree got so bad. Digressions include self-checkout kiosks, Barbie dolls and moonshine. Homeless shelters and teacher pay feature prominently. By the standards of this podcast, this episode is relatively upbeat.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
10/02/201h 3m

D.C. Snipers Part 2

Mike tells Sarah how a nice Jamaican kid became the disciple of a mean American adult. Digressions include Tonya Harding (of course), “Sliding Doors” (again) and Anne of Green Gables (Sarah has an English degree). Mildred re-appears just after the hour mark. We are unable to conceive of a content warning comprehensive enough for all the horrors contained in this episode. There is less crying in this episode than the last in this series, but only slightly. Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
03/02/201h 38m

The O.J. Simpson Trial: Kato Kaelin Part 2

Sarah tells Mike the ending to the story of the mimbo and the alibi. Digressions include O. Henry, Nigerian e-mail scams and Dave Coulier. Mike wildly over-simplifies the Brexit vote. Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff! Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
20/01/201h 23m

D.C. Snipers Part 1

“If you’re black, you can’t get work as a serial killer even if you’re manifestly qualified.” Mike tells Sarah how a military veteran became an abuser, a murderer and, eventually, a footnote in his own crime spree. Digressions include Jim Jones, the Addams Family and “The Gillooly Gang.” The episode gets super dark about two-thirds in, but brightens just before the big twist. We describe—again, unfortunately—domestic abuse in great detail.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
06/01/201h 50m

The O.J. Simpson Trial: Kato Kaelin Part 1

Sarah tells Mike how an aspiring actor protected and then betrayed Nicole Brown Simpson without knowing he was doing either. Digressions include '80s movie tropes, ski-resort etiquette and the need for a process of "un-faming." Unfortunately, this episode contains graphic descriptions of violence and abuse. Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
16/12/191h 8m

The O.J. Simpson Trial: Paula Barbieri Part 2

"There’s no precedent for women in this family being treated like they matter." Sarah tells Mike about the Bronco chase as Paula Barbieri experienced it. Then, she recounts how a poor kid from Panama City, Florida, made it all the way to the high-fashion world of Paris, France—and discovered that she had jumped out of the frying pan and into the fire. Sarah continues to compare everyone to Erin Brockovich.This episode begins with a lengthy discussion of O.J. Simpson's suicide attempt on the day of the Bronco chase. We go on to describe scenes of domestic violence and attempted sexual assault; Paula deserved better.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
02/12/191h 25m

Human Trafficking

Mike tells Sarah how NGOs, activists and George W. Bush resurrected the 'stranger danger' panic for the modern era. Digressions include Reply All, muffins and Yelp for massage parlors. Mike's vocal fry is even worse than usual.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
25/11/191h 37m

The O.J. Simpson Trial: Marcia Clark Part 1

Sarah tells Mike how Marcia Clark got the slam-dunk case that ended her career as a trial lawyer. Digressions include string cheese, "Inception" and what calling women "difficult" means in 2019. We go on the record in favor of a wide range of frivolous hobbies. Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
14/11/191h 20m

The O.J. Simpson Trial: Paula Barbieri Part 1

"Centering conversations around blame is not the most useful thing for us to be doing." Sarah tells Mike about the woman who broke up with O.J. Simpson on the morning of the murders — then stayed by his side through the trial. Michael Bolton makes an extended cameo appearance. Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
01/11/191h 22m

The O.J. Simpson Trial: Nicole Brown Simpson Part 2

“You can’t expect people to know the exact kind of help they need.” We continue our deep dive into the O.J. Simpson case with the history of Nicole Brown Simpson's marriage to O.J., their 1992 divorce and the last weeks of Nicole's life. Digressions include Julia Roberts, Malibu real estate and Madonna’s "Erotica." Mike is fighting a cold and apologizes for his raspiness. This episode contains even greater detail on the violence and domestic abuse Nicole suffered.Plus, a correction! Sarah forgot to mention that O.J. Simpson received two years of probation for the 1989 incident.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
17/10/191h 36m

The O.J. Simpson Trial: Nicole Brown Simpson Part 1

Mike and Sarah begin their epic journey into O.J. Simpson's trial for the murders of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman, beginning with the story of Nicole's life with O.J. until their marriage in 1985. This episode contains descriptions of violence and domestic abuse. Like so many of the women we talk about, Nicole deserved better.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
03/10/191h 3m

The Wardrobe Malfunction

Our first live show! Mike tells Sarah about Janet Jackson, the 2004 Super Bowl Halftime show and the 9/16ths of a second that destroyed her career. Digressions include Puff Daddy, Jessica Simpson and Edward James Olmos. Like all positive developments regarding this show, performing live is something we feel weird about and so we spent the first few minutes talking about it!Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
19/09/1944m 1s

‘Yoko Ono Broke Up The Beatles’

Mike tells Sarah how the myth of meddling wives serves to exonerate terrible husbands. Digressions include "50 Shades of Grey," Marie Antoinette and the end of the 1960s. This episode, we’re sorry to say, contains descriptions of domestic abuse.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff! Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
10/09/191h 19m

Gangs

“Isn’t it amazing how we can only imagine our monsters capitalistically?” Mike tells Sarah how police, prosecutors and journalists accidentally conspired to invent the perfect suburban menace. Digressions include IKEA, the "Godfather" trilogy and Fleetwood Mac. Mike takes big gulping breaths when he reads out loud.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
22/08/191h 17m

The Victims’ Rights Movement

“When you allow emotion into the courtroom, bias rushes in alongside it.” Special guest Rachel Monroe tells Mike and Sarah how a good-faith critique of the justice system led to a decades-long crackdown. Digressions include Charles Manson, Ronald Reagan and a billionaire mugshot. Mike’s similes are worse than Sarah’s.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
16/08/1953m 59s

Sex Offenders

“Things are not going to get better if we make the people who scare us seem more powerful.” Mike tells Sarah about the myths of sex crimes, the reality of child abuse and the importance of unsympathetic protagonists. Digressions include frozen pizza, millennials (obvs) and vaccination rates. Mike can only name one state that borders Nevada.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff! Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
07/08/191h 3m

Tonya Harding Part 2

“The story that did the most damage to the people in it was the one that made the most money.” Sarah tells Mike about the low-rent conspiracy that sparked a ratings bonanza.  Digressions include "Out of Sight," Robert De Niro and the ancient sexting technology known as landlines. Mike continues to laugh confusedly at references he does not know.  Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
26/07/191h 15m

Tonya Harding Part 1

Sarah tells Mike the story of a world-class figure skater who worked at a mall potato restaurant. Digressions include “Sleepless in Seattle,” mall walkers, synchronized diving and the difficulty of skating a perfect pentagram. This episode unfortunately contains descriptions of physical, emotional and sexual abuse. Tonya deserved better. Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
18/07/191h 12m

The Stonewall Uprising

“Humans aren’t good at remembering what got us where we are.” Mike tells Sarah how a turning point in the gay rights movement became an immediate controversy, a lasting inspiration and a never-ending debate. Digressions include “Newsies” (of course), “True Romance” and “Norma Rae.” Mike's creaking chair and Sarah's rustling blanket-fort are heard throughout.patreon.com/yourewrongabout Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
27/06/191h 19m

Kitty Genovese and “Bystander Apathy”

“Once you tell a story incorrectly once, you can’t control where it goes.” Sarah tells Mike how The New York Times turned a suburban murder into an urban legend. Digressions include Billy Joel, the World’s Fair and “Ferngully.” This episode marks a triumphant return to Long Island and an unexpected celebration of Pride Month.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
20/06/191h 6m

Sexting

“We’re uncomfortable with the evidence that teen girls have sexual agency.” Special guest Amy Hasinoff tells Mike and Sarah how a moral panic became a legal nightmare. Digressions include Cosmo advice columns, Grindr etiquette and the revolutionary hugging of the "Avengers" movies. Due to the ongoing hex placed on this podcast, the sound quality is worse than usual.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff! Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
11/06/1940m 31s

The American Taliban

“He’s been punished even more than the American prison system can aspire to punish anyone”: Mike tells Sarah how John Walker Lindh became a terrorist in the media, a freedom fighter in his own mind and something between the two in reality. Digressions include “Newsies," Bruce Willis and “Candide.” Sarah sneakily reveals her lifelong affection for Howard Stern.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff! Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
05/06/191h 11m

Exorcism

"It just seems like capitalism masquerading as religion": Sarah tells Mike how a horror movie resurrected a ritual and established an industry. Digressions include “Avatar,” the NFL and the ethics of book publishing. The final five minutes are an unintentionally concise description of the core moral principle of this show.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
28/05/1941m 30s

Homelessness

“We want stories that don’t exist in systems”: Mike tells Sarah what happened when Utah set out to solve one of America's most intractable problems. Digressions include the Paleo diet, the planet Mars and the inadequacy of the term “up the river.” Jimmy Carter makes an extended cameo appearance.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
16/05/191h 9m

Dan Quayle v. Murphy Brown

“Why did we make fun of Dan Quayle for misspelling the word ‘potato’ when we should have made fun of him for arguments like this?” Mike tells Sarah how a real vice president blamed a fictional single mom for causing one of the most divisive events of the 1990s. Digressions include "Designing Women," "Alien" and "The Brady Bunch." Listeners finally learn that Sarah has a lovely singing voice.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
09/05/1951m 10s

Elián González

Mike tells Sarah how a 5-year-old kid transformed a city, divided a political party and (maybe) determined a presidential election. Digressions include World War II, Clarence Darrow and something called "Like, News with Skeeter." Both co-hosts conclude that this episode is somehow an equal-parts mixture of Satanic Panic and Terri Schiavo.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
25/04/191h 0m

The Preppy Murder

Sarah tells Mike how an aspiring rich kid became an emblem of a world he didn't belong to. Digressions include drill teams, prep schools and eating disorders. The p-pops are worse than usual. Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
18/04/1954m 48s

The “Ebonics” Controversy

Mike tells Sarah how a simple idea in a single school district became a nationwide racial panic. Digressions include slasher movies, Space Invaders and homeschooling. The taglines are becoming more esoteric. Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
04/04/191h 1m

Terri Schiavo

Mike tells Sarah how the media, the president and the Pope turned a simple medical story into a complicated legal one. Digressions include canine loyalty, unionized space-workers and polyamory logistics. Both co-hosts recorded in tiny rooms, but with very different acoustics. Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
05/03/191h 13m

Anna Nicole Smith

Sarah tells Mike how a poor Texas girl made herself into an icon and America made her into a punchline. Digressions include massage technique, “Death Becomes Her” and (obviously) “The Godfather.” Mike sounds even sicker than he did last week.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
20/02/1957m 33s

Acid Rain

Mike tells Sarah how an environmental problem became a national rallying cry, a sticky diplomatic issue and, eventually, a conspiracy theory. Digressions include “Alien,” Field & Stream and NRA public service announcements. Both hosts are recovering from colds and one spends the episode under a blanket.  Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
15/02/1945m 2s

Gary Hart

Sarah tells Mike how a sex scandal ruined a rising star and established a new template for American elections. Digressions include "Good Will Hunting," People Magazine and Linda Ronstadt. Michael Dukakis is described, for the first time ever, as "the soulmate who was there all along."Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
07/02/1949m 53s

Tammy Faye Bakker and Jessica Hahn

“She only said one thing her whole life”: Sarah tells Mike how two decent women became scapegoats for the actions of one terrible man. Digressions include Larry Flynt, NPR tote bags and Playboy back issues. This episode contains a detailed description of a sexual assault.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
25/01/191h 7m

Enron

Mike tells Sarah how a "bad apples” explanation kept us from seeing the real scandal at the heart of America's largest corporate bankruptcy. Digressions include “Casino,” Thanksgiving economics and corruption catchphrases. Neither co-host truly understands how the stock market works.   Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
16/01/191h 17m

The Challenger Disaster

It wasn’t an accident. Mike tells Sarah how the infamous space shuttle disaster came to be seen as a white-collar crime. Digressions include the Donner Party, George Lucas and “Jurassic Park.” Both co-hosts are audibly recovering from colds. Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
03/01/191h 6m

“A Dingo’s Got My Baby”

Sarah tells Mike how a tragic story became a hacky catchphrase. Digressions include raccoon anarchists, flu remedies and late-night Arby’s. Sarah's Google Alerts will surprise none of our listeners. Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
19/12/1858m 58s

The 2000 Election

Mike tells Sarah how a close election and an even closer Supreme Court decision established the political template we're still living with today. Digressions include quarks, Ouija Boards and (sorry) moral philosophy. The "lemonade theory" turns out to be less fun than it sounds.  Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
12/12/181h 12m

Amy Fisher

Sarah tells Mike about the sad reality — and the terrible man — behind the infamous Long Island Lolita. Digressions include software terms of service, the rise of beepers and Monica Lewinsky’s LinkedIn profile. Mike, a 36-year-old man, appears not to understand what pimps do. Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
03/12/181h 3m

Roe v. Wade

Special guest Megan Burbank tells us about the history, limitations and loopholes of a landmark court ruling. Digressions include Betty Ford, "Maude" and naming conventions for anonymous defendants. The glories of Washington State politics are examined in depth. Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
21/11/1854m 4s

The Duke Lacrosse Rape Case

Mike tells Sarah how a false rape allegation became a right-wing rallying cry and a left-wing conspiracy theory. Digressions include JonBenet Ramsay, “24” and “The Vagina Monologues." Mike regrets not commenting on the metaphorical significance of being trapped in the closet throughout the episode. Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
14/11/181h 10m

Lorena Bobbitt

Sarah tells Mike how a case of marital rape and spontaneous mutilation became a national punchline. Digressions include Ron Jeremy, Alan Dershowitz, Motörhead and the tortures of self-reflection. Sarah reviews John Wayne Bobbitt's later works. Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
07/11/1849m 15s

Stranger Danger

How inflated statistics, cultural anxieties and moral crusaders turned a tiny number of missing children into a decade-long political project. Digressions include 1870s parenting, “E.T.” and the lack of parks in Los Angeles. Both co-hosts secretly believe that the popularity of TV movies in the 1980s explains all of America’s social problems. Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
31/10/181h 13m

Urban Legends Spectacular!

Razorblades in apples, babysitters on acid, killers in backseats and "rainbow parties": In this episode, Mike and Sarah investigate the scary stories Americans tell each other and discover the actual anxieties behind them. Turn on your high beams for this one. Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
24/10/181h 15m

Halloween Special! Ed Gein and Slasher Movies

Sarah tells Mike how Ed Gein became one of America’s most famous serial killers despite not actually being one. Plus, the cinematic villains Gein inspired and what the slasher movies of the 1980s were really about. Digressions include Freud, summer camp logistics and the T-1000. Mike continues to awkwardly insert his teenage crushes into every conversation. Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
17/10/1850m 38s

Shaken Baby Syndrome

Mike tells Sarah how an over-simplified diagnosis, over-confident doctors and over-zealous prosecutors combined to get thousands of innocent parents thrown in prison. Digressions include food poisoning, Sherlock Holmes and 1950s medical ethics. Mike wanted to mention Louise Woodward but he forgot. Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
08/10/1857m 7s

Multiple Personality Disorder

Sarah tells Mike how pop culture created a two-decade-long obsession with multiple personality disorder and repressed memories. Digressions include Dead Poets Society, restless leg syndrome and the low editorial standards of the American publishing industry. The Satanic Panic makes a cameo appearance. Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
01/10/181h 1m

The Obesity Epidemic

Mike tells Sarah that America has sent the wrong messages and done the wrong things about obesity for more than half a century. Digressions include height (again), sweatshops and Julianne Moore. Sarah and Mike’s mothers both make extended appearances.  Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
19/09/181h 5m

Columbine

Special guest Rachel Monroe (re-)joins Mike and Sarah to talk about all the myths surrounding the second-biggest news event of the 1990s. Digressions include car crashes, September 11, Diane Sawyer and the terrors of teenage journaling.  Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
17/09/181h 10m

Iran-Contra

Mike tells Sarah why the biggest scandal of Reagan's presidency provides more (depressing) lessons about current politics than Watergate. Digressions include Mormons, Top Gun and the X-Files. Both co-hosts have considered what they will name their deliberately boring tax-shelter corporations.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff! Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
10/09/1856m 42s

Jeffrey Dahmer

Sarah tells Mike that shoddy policing (and Milwaukee generally) are responsible for one of America's most prolific serial killers. Digressions include panel vans, Anita Bryant, early man and Hannibal Lector. Mike struggles, as usual, not to cry during the gross parts. Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
01/09/1858m 9s

D.A.R.E.

Mike tells Sarah that the D.A.R.E. program did not, in fact, keep kids off drugs. But that’s just the beginning of the debunking. Digressions include Martin Scorsese, Iceland and control groups. Neither co-host was cool enough to be offered drugs in high school. Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
18/08/1857m 29s

Alpha Males

Sarah tells Mike that animal behavior is an imperfect template for human society. Digressions include rabbits, Bob’s Burgers and online dating. Mike makes an awkward observation about locker rooms. Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
04/08/1849m 45s

Kurt Cobain and “Copycat Suicide”

Special guest Candace Opper tells Mike and Sarah about how the death of a rock star changed the field of suicidology (which is a thing). Digressions include eating disorders, car crashes and the insane grimness of the term “family annihilation.” The cringe-worthiness of Mike’s teenage years reaches new depths.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff! Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
28/07/181h 9m

“The Godfather”

Sarah tells Mike about how America's favorite gangster movie is really its favorite killing-the-American-Dream movie. Digressions include the Mona Lisa, Bruce Springsteen and the tyranny of height-ism. The sound quality continues to worsen.  Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
21/07/1855m 16s

10th Episode Spectacular!

Sarah and Mike take a break from debunking to reflect on the first 10 episodes and tell the secret history of how they met. Digressions include “Portlandia,” Snapchat and the The New York Post. The recording quality, as usual, is wildly inconsistent.  Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
14/07/1835m 29s

The Exxon Valdez Oil Spill

Mike tells Sarah that America’s most devastating oil spill was not, in fact, a DUI. Digressions include “Titanic" (obviously), the Cuyahoga River, Jennifer Lopez and marshmallows. Punitive damages make a triumphant return. Mike, a professional writer, continues to misuse the word “literally.”  Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
30/06/181h 1m

Snuff Films

Sarah tells Mike about how snuff films don't exist but lots of near-snuff films do. Digressions include "Basic Instinct," gymnastics and YouTube’s righthand bar. Mike is palpably grossed out for at least two-thirds of the episode.Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
25/06/1858m 24s

The Jonestown Massacre

Special guest Rachel Monroe tells Mike and Sarah what's really behind the phrase “drinking the Kool-Aid.” Digressions include David Koresh, East Germany and how flower children were the first millennials. Mike inadvertently reveals his prejudice against extroverts. Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
16/06/181h 4m

The Clinton Impeachment

Part two of our epic dissection of the Clinton impeachment scandal. This week: The story breaks, the House indicts, the Senate demurs and Mike rants more than usual about the media. Digressions include Mark Fuhrman, “Broadcast News” and gay porn. Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
09/06/181h 0m

Monica Lewinsky

Sarah and Mike talk about what America forgot — and never learned — about history’s most famous intern. Digressions include generational resentments, 1990s fashion and off-brand colleges. Also, Mike’s microphone breaks about 25 minutes in, so he sounds like he’s recording in a submarine. Sorry! Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
02/06/181h 14m

Anita Hill

Mike tells Sarah about the complicated legacy of Anita Hill and the not-particularly-complicated facts of her case. Digressions include “Tootsie," Garrison Keillor and the Donner party. Mike, for reasons unknown, seems to believe that one flies “down” from Charlotte, North Carolina, to Washington, D.C. Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
26/05/181h 12m

Stockholm Syndrome

It’s not a real thing! … OR IS IT? Sarah tells Mike about the convoluted history of a contested term. Digressions include James Bond, Charlie Manson and rat poison. Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
20/05/1856m 54s

Matthew Shepard

But not how you think! Special guest Mike Owens tells Sarah and Mike about the (attempted) debunking of the gay-bashing victim. Digressions include Leopold and Loeb, Basic Instinct and Rolling Stone. The sound quality is even worse than usual. Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
12/05/181h 19m

Afterschool Specials

Mike tells Sarah that the TV movies of her childhood were both less and more problematic than she remembers. Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
05/05/181h 4m

Crack Babies

Sarah tells Mike about the long history of white anxiety over black motherhood. Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
04/05/1846m 18s

Going Postal

Mike tells Sarah about the rash of mass shootings carried out by postal workers in the '80s and '90s, then brings out the debunkin' turducken. Continue reading →Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
03/05/1849m 34s

The Satanic Panic

The 1980s were real but the Satanists weren't. Sarah tells Mike about why America spent a decade worried about witches running daycare centers. Support us: Subscribe on Patreon, donate on Paypal or buy cute stuff!Support the show (http://patreon.com/yourewrongabout)
02/05/1843m 34s
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