That Was Us

That Was Us

By Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown, Chris Sullivan

This Is Us stars Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown, and Chris Sullivan dive back into the world of the Pearsons, reliving each episode and all the life lessons that came with it. Together, they dig in and dig deep, have the tough conversations, bring in very special and familiar guests, share never before heard behind-the-scenes moments, and feature listeners in highly anticipated fan segments. With new episodes out every Tuesday, join your favorite family back in the living room to examine our past, cherish our present, and look to the future. That Was Us... Follow the show for more! Instagram @thatwasus TikTok @thatwasuspod X @thatwasuspod Threads @thatwasus Facebook https://www.facebook.com/thatwasus

Episodes

20/20 Vision | "The 20's" (S2E6) with special guest Zoe Hay

Join us as we dive into "The 20's," an episode that explores the pivotal moments and defining experiences of the Pearson family in their twenties. We'll delve into Kevin's core wound, the personal romantic struggles Kate is going through, and the challenges and joys of parenthood for Beth and Randall— which leads Sterling, Mandy, and Chris to ask themselves and listeners: “What kind of answers did your children bring when they came into the world?” Plus, we're joined by the talented Zoe Hay, makeup artist extraordinaire from This Is Us! Zoe shares behind-the-scenes insights and reveals the secrets behind those iconic Pearson looks. And for a bit of fun, we'll take a peek at some amazing This Is Us-inspired Halloween costumes from fans over the years. That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X!
10/12/241h 12m

Brother Bonding Gone Wrong | "Brothers" (S2E5) with special guest Caitlin Thompson

Join us as we recap "Brothers," the episode that shows us the inner workings of not only Randall and Kevin’s brotherly bond (or lack thereof) but Jack’s complicated relationship with, surprise, his own brother! We'll delve into Jack's complex relationship with his father, the discovery of his brother Nicky, and the lingering impact of their childhood trauma. We'll also discuss Kevin's turn towards painkillers, the heartwarming breakthrough between Randall and Deja, and Ka-Toby sharing the excitement of Kate’s pregnancy together. And that's not all! The wonderful Caitlin Thompson, who plays Madison, joins us to share the inside scoop on how her character came to be on the show. That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X!
03/12/241h 16m

Lessons, Layers, and Love | "Still There" (S2E4)

There's a lot that's still lingering for the Pearson family...and in this episode we dive into Kate, Kevin, and Randall's past to uncover what's eating away at them. From the kids battling chickenpox to the Pearsons confronting deeper issues like identity, racism, and generational differences, this episode had A LOT to cover. We discuss Kate’s pregnancy secret, Kevin’s fight to rise above his injury, and Randall piecing together how his race shaped his family dynamic. Plus, Rebecca’s complicated relationship with her mother takes center stage, leading Mandy, Sterling, and Chris to share their thoughts on complicated parent/child relationships and the delicacy of figuring out how to impart lessons onto children of their own. We’ll also share a heartfelt message from a listener who connected with the show through her work in the foster care system. That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X!
26/11/241h 3m

Chrissy Metz and Us | Kate Pearson

Join us for a special episode featuring the amazing Chrissy Metz, who captured our hearts as Kate Pearson on This Is Us! Chrissy opens up about her incredible journey from working as an agent to landing the role of Kate with just $0.81 in her bank account. She shares candidly about overcoming self-doubt, finding confidence, and the profound impact playing Kate had on her own life. That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X!
19/11/241h 15m

It's Okay to Not Be Okay | "Déjà Vu" (S2E3) with special guest Lyric Ross

Join us as we revisit the episode where Jack takes a brave step toward recovery, Randall embarks on a journey to find his birth mother, and Deja adjusts to life with the Pearsons. We'll discuss the emotional challenges of working on a deeply moving show like This Is Us and how the cast and crew navigate those intense moments on set. Plus, we'll delve into Deja's story and the power of finding your place in a new family (specifically the Pearson family!). And guess who's joining us? The amazing Lyric Ross (Deja herself)! Lyric shares her incredible audition experience, including a memorable encounter with Sterling K. Brown, and opens up about her emotions when she learned about Deja's transformative haircut. This episode also features a touching message from a listener named Jennifer, who shares how This Is Us helped her cope with the loss of her father. This conversation was filled with heartwarming moments, insightful reflections, and the reminder that "it's okay to not be okay." That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X!
12/11/241h 13m

A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile

Join us as we revisit the episode where Kevin does a memorable taping of "The Manny," Kate finds her voice (literally!), and Randall and Beth consider expanding their family. We'll dive deep into Kate's struggle with self-doubt and the complex mother-daughter dynamics between her and Rebecca, sharing our own relatable experiences with parental relationships. Plus, we'll explore the ripple effects of fostering and how it impacts the entire family ecosystem, offering "a lesson for living," as Sterling wisely puts it. We're also thrilled to welcome the incredibly talented Hannah Zeile (younger Kate) to the podcast as she opens up about landing the role of Kate after a four-year acting hiatus – talk about a comeback story! That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X!
05/11/241h 8m

One Year Older | "A Father's Advice" (S2E1) with special guest Logan Shroyer

Another year, another birthday, and the Big Three are turning 37! That’s right, we’re talking about the season two premiere of “This Is Us,” which means we’re officially kicking off season two of “That Was Us.” Big life changes are transpiring, including perhaps the biggest to come: Jack’s death. It’s in this episode that we get a closer look at when and how Jack might have died. Here to catch up with us and provide his POV on the matter is Logan Shroyer, aka Teen Kevin. Ready? That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions and Sara Wehrheim. Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X!
29/10/241h 24m

A Celebration of Season One with Ken Olin and Us

It's a wrap on season one of That Was Us! Here with us to celebrate is Executive Producer and Director of 32 episodes of This Is Us, Ken Olin. Join us as we attempt to recap the best moments of season one... emphasis on "attempt" because, with Ken Olin, we can get carried away.  You know the conversation will be interesting, and we know you'll love Ken Olin like we do by the end of the episode. And then? Get ready for Season Two of That Was Us.
22/10/241h

Milo Ventimiglia and Us | Jack Pearson

It’s the episode you’ve all been waiting for… Milo Ventimiglia, aka Jack Pearson, is in the house! And you know what? ENOUGH SAID. Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X!
15/10/241h 10m

The Big Gig | "Moonshadow" (S1E18) with special guest Sam Trammell

The season one finale of “This Is Us” has us worried about the future of Jack and Rebecca… In today’s episode of “That Was Us,” we catch up with Sam Trammell, aka Rebecca’s old boyfriend and bandmate, Ben, whose surprise kiss kicks off a punch to the face, the end of the band, and the biggest fight between Jack and Rebecca yet. Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X!
08/10/241h 3m

Life After William | "What Now?" (S1E17) with special guest Denis O'Hare

In the aftermath of William’s passing, Tess and Annie throw a Fun-eral (emphasis on “fun”), while Randall considers how to honor William's life. How do we honor the legacy of loved ones no longer with us? How do we grieve and move on without their physical presence? Join us as we recap the episode, and welcome Denis O’Hare (Jessie, William’s partner) as our special guest... All the way from France! Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X!
01/10/241h 15m

An Ode to William Hill | "Memphis" (S1E16) with special guest Jermel Nakia

In Memphis, we said goodbye to William Hill, but as we know, his story continues on through the fabric of the Pearson’s lives. We also remember Ron Cephas Jones, whose stunning portrayal of William left us with infinite lessons, wisdom, and broken hearts. Join us as we recap the episode, share its impact on our lives, and catch up with Jermel Nakia, aka Younger William. Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X!
24/09/241h 16m

What Would Jack Do? | "Jack Pearson's Son" (S1E15) with special guest Alexandra Breckenridge

What would Jack Pearson do? In the moments before Kevin is due to take the stage on the opening night of his play, he asks himself this question. The answer had all of us crying. We watched Kevin run to his brother, Randall, who is still at the office, curled up on the floor, in the midst of a breakdown, and just hold him. A beautiful moment for brothers who have not had an easy going relationship, and a full circle moment for Kevin, to do the right thing. We also examine the other Pearson relationships played out in this episode and you better believe we’re taking sides! So today, we're talking about mental health, healthful relationships, and the return of Sophie all these years later… and yes, Alex Breckenridge (Sophie) is here with us too! Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X!
17/09/241h 26m

Siddhartha Khosla and Us | Composer

Join us in welcoming the composer of “This Is Us,” “Only Murders in the Building,” and so much more… Siddhartha Khosla. How did he develop the most perfect heartstring-tugging music for the show? How did his roots and upbringing inspire the soundtrack? What was it like being college roommates with Dan Fogelman (creator of “This Is Us”)? You are in for a real treat! Performing his song, “Evergreen Cassette,” and bringing back all the feels, Siddhartha Khosla sends us down memory lane to relive the beautiful connection we all felt with the Pearsons when watching “This Is Us” for the first time. Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X!
10/09/241h 35m

For Better or For Worse | "I Call Marriage" (S1E14)

While Jack and Rebecca say, "I do," Miguel and Shelly say, "I don't," and we say, "Let's talk about it,"... Marriage, that is. Marriage is hard! It's constant work. Jack and Rebecca's marriage wasn't perfect, but they consistently worked together to push through all the hiccups along the way. They fought for each other, and they fought for their love. In this episode, we break down the budding, building, and rock-solid Pearson couples. How do you fight for your marriage every day? How do you keep the spark alive? How do you communicate conflict when it inevitably comes up? We're not experts, but we'll share what works for us! Ready for date night? Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X!
03/09/241h 10m

Happy Birthday! | "Three Sentences" (S1E13)

Young Randall didn’t care that only three friends showed up to his birthday party. He was happy that his three good friends were there to celebrate with him. All his life, William dreamed of driving around in a cool car, with his favorite drink, listening to his favorite record. How special that his son was able to help make that dream come true. Sometimes, life’s defining moments aren’t grand. It’s a shift in perspective, the little things, that define who we are and impact our lives and the lives of those we touch. Join us as we recap and reflect on our own birthdays, parenting stories, and more. Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X!
27/08/241h 7m

The Road to The Big Three | "The Big Day" (S1E12)

We are all about hot takes and the rehashing of a very big day! Yes, that means we're going back to the pilot, but from a different angle and a few new POVs. As the birth of The Big Three fast approaches, Rebecca forgets Jack’s birthday, Dr. K struggles with the loss of his wife, while firefighter Joe prays for a miracle. Speaking of miracles, we're gonna need one to get through this without crying, so grab your tissues, and let's get started. Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X!
20/08/2450m 13s

Jon Huertas and Us | Miguel Rivas

Jon Huertas, aka Miguel Rivas, is with us! That's right, Jack's best friend, and Rebecca's second husband... we'd say, "awkward", but now that we know the whole story, we can say, "we love Jon Huertas and we love Miguel too"! Right? Tune in to hear how Jon handled the Miguel hate that spanned several seasons and the process he went through to land the role. Join us as we pry for exclusive behind-the-scenes tidbits. Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X!
13/08/2459m 6s

Decisions, Decisions | "The Right Thing to Do" (S1E11)

The right thing to do isn’t always what you want to do and vice versa, so how do we know right from wrong? Jack knocks on his estranged dad’s door to ask for money so he can afford a home to fit his growing family; Toby initially fights against it, but reluctantly opts for additional surgery to avoid more serious complications down the road. Randall fights tooth and nail to find a treatment to give William more time, but stops when he is truly able to hear what William wants, which is to stop chemo; and Kevin doesn’t feel passion in his relationship with Sloane, but stays because he believes it’s the right thing to do. We all face moments where the right thing to do isn’t obvious, but all we can do is our best. Decisions, decisions… Let’s sift through. Check out Your Mom Is A Podcast, a new podcast from Milana Vayntrub & Sandeep Parikh where they embark on the hilarious journey of parenting improvement. Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X!
06/08/241h 23m

Nothing Bad Ever Happens on Christmas Eve | "Last Christmas" (S1E10)

Rebecca promised us, “Nothing bad ever happens on Christmas Eve,” and if you rewatched “Last Christmas” like we did, you know it’s a close call. Kate gets her appendix out; Dr. K is in the same hospital, dying, about to go into surgery; Randall’s co-worker, Andy, is preparing to take his life; and Toby has a heart attack… and who is coding?!?! Navigating the holiday season is already a tricky thing to do. How do we celebrate the joys of life when we’re at death's door? Where do we find peace amidst the holiday season when it’s not always a joyful time? Who do we turn to when we need a hand to hold to get us through it all? Ring the bells and let’s talk it through because it’s Christmas time. Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X!
30/07/241h 8m

A Life Changing Smoothie | "The Trip" (S1E9)

The Big Three head to the family cabin after a chaotic Thanksgiving and Olivia heads over to join them with her ex-boyfriend, Asher, and Sloane in tow. What should be one last joyful trip before Rebecca sells the vacation home becomes quite the trip for Randall, thanks to Asher’s mushroom smoothie. And while Randall works through his anger for Rebecca with ghost daddy Jack, Kate and Kevin work through the hiccups in their own relationship. Sibling relationships, navigating one’s emotions, self-discovery, and forgiveness are all on the table, so let’s head to the cabin. Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X!
23/07/241h 9m

Happy Thanksgiving | "Pilgrim Rick" (S1E8)

Thanksgiving comes early this year! That’s right, in this episode, we’re introduced to Pilgrim Rick and the birth of the Pearson’s favorite holiday traditions. A 3.4 mile hike, Police Academy 3, hot dogs with Kraft singles and crushed Saltines, a ball of yarn, and the hat of “Pilgrim Rick” are essential. Will Miguel ever get a chance to play Pilgrim Rick? No dice. Will we talk about Randall confronting Rebecca about her letter he found at William’s? Absolutely. Let’s break bread and dig in. Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X!
16/07/241h 10m

Oh, Brother | "The Best Washing Machine in the Whole World" (S1E7)

Family secrets can create a strong bond, or be divisive. When William and Beth bond over special brownies, a major secret is spilled: Rebecca and William have known each other all this time with no one, not even Randall, the wiser. Meanwhile, also divisive is that of the relationship between Randall and Kevin. It all comes to a head, and so as we break down the episode, we also break down familial relationships and discuss the moral responsibilities we face within our own family networks. Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X!
09/07/241h 11m

Susan Kelechi Watson and Us | Beth Pearson

Susan Kelechi Watson, aka Beth Pearson, is in the house, which means so is R&B! We hear about everything from her audition process to the behind-the-scenes efforts that went into portraying and building Beth's backstory. Join us as we reminisce and rediscover the anchor that is Beth Pearson. Pantry wine optional. Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X!
02/07/2457m 20s

When I Grow Up... | "Career Days" (S1E6)

What do you want to be when you grow up? It's the age-old question most of us were asked when we were little. Sometimes a childhood dream job becomes a reality. And sometimes there's a pivot or sacrifice made along the way that leads to a career path different than imagined. Life's twists and turns allow the Pearsons (and us) to discover new passions/gifts and use them professionally. So as the Pearsons consider (or reconsider) what they're meant to do and how they got to where they are, we do the same. Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X!
25/06/241h 4m

The Painting | "The Game Plan" (S1E5)

Life is full of color, and we each get to add our own color to the painting of life. Even in death, we’ve still left our mark. We’re still a part of the painting. Kevin Pearson illustrates the beauty of this message, which also serves as the meaning behind what “That Is Us” is all about. As Kevin said, “There’s no you or me or them. It’s just us.” Come be a part of our painting and join us in conversation. Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X!
18/06/241h 7m

Misery | “The Pool” (S1E4)

Jack, Rebecca, and The Big Three are off to the pool, which sounds fun, but in actuality, feels a bit like Rebecca’s book: Misery. Randall and Kevin fight with each other, Kevin fights for attention, and Kate opts not to fight her bullies. Kevin miserably auditions for his first Broadway play, Toby bumps into his ex-wife, and William is mistaken as a loiterer. There are a lot of dynamics at play - parenting, self-discovery, racial injustice, weight insecurities, bullying, and forgiveness - and we get into it all. Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X!
11/06/241h 6m

Time After Time | "Kyle" (S1E3)

Grief. Where do you begin when you feel like you’re slipping through quicksand? Jack and Rebecca bring home three babies while grieving the loss of another. Randall just reunited with his birth father, William, but now grieves his terminal illness. All channel their grief differently. How do we go through the process of grief with care and ultimately come out on the other side of it? Who do we lean on in these moments of darkness so we don’t have to face it alone? Kate reminds us of the importance of being there for each other, no matter the circumstances… time after time. Deep breaths. Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X!
04/06/241h 7m

Back to the Future | “The Big Three” (S1E2)

It’s been eight years since The Big Three were born, and there’s friction in the Pearson household. We see the early signs of disconnect between Kevin and Randall, and we see that a decade’s worth of marriage and child-rearing has taken its toll on Jack and Rebecca’s marriage. Kate wrestles with weight insecurities and did Tess just call Miguel “Grandpa”?? In this episode, we explore navigating the highs and lows of marriage, sibling dynamics, body image issues, advocating for yourself in relationships, and putting in the work. Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X!
28/05/241h 17m

Dan Fogelman and Us | The Creator

Dan Fogelman (This Is Us, Tangled, Cars, Fred Claus, Crazy, Stupid, Love) is a legend around here. He brought us the Pearsons, and he brought us together! Dan joins us to discuss what went into writing the show, and how he was able to surprise us with bombshell reveals and leave us hanging week after week. Mandy, Sterling, Chris, and Dan talk about the evolution of the Pearson’s stories through time, the process of filming when working with kids who grow up fast, and the importance of weaving in the historical moments that were happening in real-time as filming took place. Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X!
21/05/241h 6m

A Family Reunion | "Pilot" (S1E1)

Tissue Tuesdays are back! In our premiere episode, we travel back in time to the early days of This Is Us and the making of the “Pilot”. We break it all down, from the audition process to our first impressions of each other, and we introduce you to the first of many fan segments. What did the Pearsons teach us? What does “This Is Us” mean to us? How did the reality of what these characters were going through affect the reality of our own lives and perspectives on life’s trials and challenges? Join us to find out! Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X!
14/05/241h 23m

That Was Us Podcast | New Episodes Every Tuesday!

Join hosts, Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown, and Chris Sullivan as they dig back into each episode of This Is Us on That Was Us, a rewatch podcast. Every Tuesday, hosts will explore the overarching themes of the Pearson’s stories, bring in very special and familiar guests, share never before heard behind-the-scenes moments, and feature listeners in highly anticipated fan segments. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts and watch new episodes on YouTube. Join the That Was Us family! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatwasus TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thatwasuspod Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thatwasus Threads: https://www.threads.net/@thatwasus Twitter: https://twitter.com/thatwasuspod
07/05/241m 50s
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