Giving Done Right
From the Center for Effective Philanthropy (CEP), Giving Done Right is the show with everything you need to know to make an impact with your charitable giving. Whether you’re donating a few hundred dollars a year, a few thousand, or a few million, you might find yourself wondering: Where should I give? How do I know which nonprofits are effective? How do I know if I’m really making a difference with my donation? Join hosts Phil Buchanan and Grace Nicolette as they welcome leaders and experts from throughout the nonprofit sector to answer philanthropy’s burning questions and bust some myths that have long plagued donors and nonprofits alike. In a time when effective giving is especially crucial, Giving Done Right cuts through the noise and focuses on what you need to know to put your money to work.
Episodes
Harnessing AI for a Better World with Vilas Dhar
Could AI help us tackle intractable social problems and create a more just and equitable world? Vilas Dhar, president and trustee of the Patrick J. McGovern Foundation, believes so. In this episode, Phil and Grace ask Vilas about his vision for how AI can play a pivotal role in promoting equity. Vilas makes the case that now is the time for philanthropy and donors to step in, ensuring that the technology is built ethically. Phil and Grace address many of the fears and hesitations donors may have about AI with Vilas, and learn about the McGovern Foundation’s work to equip nonprofits with AI tools to magnify their impact.
Additional Resources
Patrick J McGovern Foundation
Vilas Dhar on the CEP blog: Consumers to Creators: Philanthropy and Nonprofits Can Build AI for Impact
10/10/24•46m 51s
Eric Liu on Revitalizing Faith in American Democracy
How can donors support a revitalization of civic engagement and a renewed commitment to democratic citizenship? Eric Liu, co-founder CEO of Citizen University, joins Phil and Grace to discuss the crisis in civic faith, our individual power to effect positive change in our communities, and the importance of supporting literacy in power. He also exhorts donors to recognize that democracy and citizenship go beyond electoral politics, addresses the difficult question of when to engage in bridging and when it may be unproductive, and speaks to the importance of inviting youth into the conversation.
Additional Resources
Citizen University
You’re More Powerful Than You Think: A Citizen’s Guide to Making Change Happen by Eric Liu
Whitney Kimball Coe, Director of National Programs, Center for Rural Strategies, The Aspen Institute
Report: Our Common Purpose: Reinventing American Democracy for the 21st Century
Report: Youth Civic Empowerment: Insights from the Student Experience
Report: Habits of Heart and Mind: How to Fortify Civic Culture
03/10/24•47m 15s
One Family’s Quest for Lasting Impact with Vivian Long
Long Family Foundation Executive Director Vivian Long joins Phil and Grace to discuss her family’s approach to giving together, navigating intergenerational philanthropic priorities, and the long-term commitment from funders that true transformation requires. Vivian also addresses the Long Family Foundation’s approach to building close relationships with grantees and their focus on the “how” of giving. She also shares her family’s story of humble beginnings and her own path to leadership at the family foundation, and the surprises that came with it.
Additional Resources
The Long Family Foundation
CEP’s Overlooked reports on the experience of AAPI nonprofit leaders and Native American nonprofit leaders with funders: Overlooked, Part One and Overlooked, Part Two
The Science of Productive Conflict | WorkLife with Adam Grant
Starfish Project
26/09/24•49m 7s
Funding the Fight for Justice with Darren Walker
President of the Ford Foundation Darren Walker joins Phil and Grace for a conversation about bold philanthropic leadership, inequality, and the importance of investing in institutions that fight for justice. On the heels of his announcement that he will be stepping down, Darren also reflects on accomplishments and regrets from his tenure. In addition, Phil and Darren offer their different takes on whether “philanthropic pluralism” is really under threat.
Additional Resources:
Ford Foundation
“We Disagree on Many Things, but We Speak with One Voice in Support of Philanthropic Pluralism,” op-ed in The Chronicle of Philanthropy by Darren Walker and others
“Who Is Threatening ‘Philanthropic Freedom’” by Phil Buchanan, a response to the above op-ed
“Finding Philanthropy’s Forgotten Founder” by Darren Walker
19/09/24•47m 36s
What if We Get it Right? Ayana Elizabeth Johnson on Collective Climate Action
Climate scientist, author, and climate policy expert Ayana Elizabeth Johnson joins Giving Done Right hosts Phil and Grace to discuss “what if we get it right” on climate – and the role philanthropy can play in implementing climate solutions. Ayana discusses the opportunities for individuals to take climate action through philanthropy as well as the importance of choosing where and how we invest our wealth. In this wide-ranging discussion on the possibilities of climate action, Ayana offers guidance for finding your niche in climate action both as individuals and as philanthropists.
Additional Resources:
“What if We Get it Right: Visions of Climate Futures” by Ayana Elizabeth Johnson
CEP’s Report Much Alarm, Less Action: Foundations and Climate Change
Climate Action Venn Diagram
TED Talk: How to Find Joy in Climate Action
More writing, talks, and resources from Ayana Elizabeth Johnson
The Crucial Years: Writing by Bill McKibben
EarthJustice
LeadLocally.org
Environmental Voter Project
The All We Can Save Project
Urban Ocean Lab
19/09/24•51m 0s
Introducing: Season 4 of Giving Done Right
Hosts Phil Buchanan and Grace Nicolette are excited to bring you season four of the Giving Done Right podcast, the show on everything you need to know to make an impact with your charitable giving.
This season, Phil and Grace cover a range of topics, including what donors can do about climate change, the power of direct cash transfers, the potential risks and opportunities associated with the use of AI, and the importance of investing in nonprofit leadership. Tune in to hear from leaders like climate scientist and author Ayana Elizabeth Johnson, Ford Foundation President Darren Walker, CEO and co-founder of Citizen University Eric Liu, and president and CEO of UpTogether Jesús Gerena.
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05/09/24•1m 51s
MacKenzie Scott's Lessons on Giving with Phil and Grace
In the season three finale of the Giving Done Right podcast, hosts Phil and Grace pull back the curtain on new Center for Effective Philanthropy research: Giving Big: The Impact of Large, Unrestricted Gifts on Nonprofits. Phil and Grace discuss how the idea to study the impact of MacKenzie Scott’s gifts on their recipients came about, the approach to the research, the key findings of the study about the experiences of the nonprofit leaders who have received these gifts, and implications for other donors.
17/11/22•32m 7s
Family Philanthropy and Big Business with Arthur Blank and Fay Twersky
Home Depot co-founder and owner of the Atlanta Falcons and Atlanta United teams, Arthur Blank joins episode seven of season 3, alongside President and Director of the Arthur M. Blank Family Foundation Fay Twersky. Arthur and Fay discuss the values-driven approach of the Blank Family Foundation with hosts Phil and Grace. Arthur also shares insight into how he and his family take a collaborative approach to decision-making within the foundation and how he identified the right leader in Fay to lead the work forward. Fay speaks to finding fit and values-alignment when choosing to work with a family foundation, and both speak of the impact of their Jewish faith on their giving and vocations.
03/11/22•35m 30s
How Our Stories Shape Our Giving with Vinh and Leisle Chung
In the sixth episode of season 3, philanthropists Vinh and Leisle Chung share their remarkable stories of coming to the U.S. as a refugee and an immigrant, respectively, and how early experiences being on the receiving end of generosity have deeply shaped their own giving. They also discuss the way that generosity is passed down through generations by example, the intangible and invaluable benefits that philanthropy brings the giver, and their journey to orienting the mission of their medical practice around giving both locally and internationally.
27/10/22•41m 39s
Heather McGhee on the Zero Sum Lie
Author and activist Heather McGhee joins hosts Phil and Grace for the fifth episode of season three. Heather provides keen insight into ‘drained pool’ politics, a core metaphor in her book, The Sum of Us: What Racism Costs Everyone and How We Can Prosper Together, that reveals how the racial zero sum mindset hurts everyone. She presents a compelling picture of how racial inequality cuts across any number of issues that donors may care about, and therefore needs to be deeply considered and addressed in order to be effective in giving. She also describes “the solidarity dividend,” the significant benefits that result when people come together across differences, and she shares her reasons for feeling optimistic about the future.
20/10/22•42m 32s
Canceling Debt with Allison Sesso
In the fourth episode of season 3, hosts Phil and Grace are joined by Allison Sesso, president and CEO of RIP Medical Debt. Allison discusses the enormous stigma and burden of medical debt in the U.S. healthcare system and provides insight into the organization’s innovative model of canceling that debt. She also pushes back on the idea that the nonprofit sector is stagnant and uninventive and shares about her organization’s experience receiving a $50 million gift from MacKenzie Scott.
13/10/22•34m 24s
Radical Generosity with April Tam Smith
Philanthropist and restaurateur April Tam Smith joins Grace on the Giving Done Right podcast to discuss her unique approach to giving, balancing philanthropic pursuits with a career in finance, and finding both purpose and friendship – as well as retaining humility – as a donor. April and her husband have taken a radically generous approach to giving; in specific chapters of their lives, they’ve done a “reverse tithe,” contributing up to 90 percent of their income to charitable causes. She discusses her philanthropic journey as well as running a nonprofit vegan restaurant in the heart of Times Square in New York City.
06/10/22•34m 58s
Donors and Disasters with Patty McIlreavy
In the second episode of season three, hosts Phil and Grace are joined by Patty McIlreavy, president and CEO of the Center for Disaster Philanthropy (CDP), to discuss disasters, philanthropy’s responsibility for both prevention and recovery, and the most common pitfalls for donors responding to disasters. Patty shares her deep expertise on what can make a disaster response successful (or unsuccessful), discusses examples like the natural disasters in Haiti and Houston, and delves into issues of equity in disaster prevention and response.
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29/09/22•39m 6s
Rooted in Community with Gladys Vega
In the season 3 premiere of Giving Done Right, hosts Phil and Grace talk with Gladys Vega about her remarkable work leading Boston-area nonprofit La Colaborativa. In the first of eight episodes this season, Gladys takes us deep into her community and her organization’s work. She discusses the strengths of La Colaborativa’s approach, which is deeply integrated into the community it serves, revisits both the most difficult moments of the pandemic and the positive changes that emerged, and discusses how to make sustainable change through both direct service and advocacy work.
22/09/22•39m 21s
Introducing: A new season of Giving Done Right
Being a wise and effective donor isn’t easy.
That’s where Giving Done Right comes in — the podcast with everything you need to know to be a more effective giver. Join hosts Phil Buchanan and Grace Nicolette from the Center for Effective Philanthropy as they welcome major donors and nonprofit leaders to answer philanthropy’s burning questions and bust some myths about giving that have long plagued donors and nonprofits alike. Subscribe now for updates.
08/09/22•2m 38s
Giving Cash to Those in Need
In the season finale of Giving Done Right season two, CEP’s Phil and Grace talk with Paul Niehaus, co-founder and chairman of GiveDirectly. Paul discusses the power of direct cash transfers – how they work, why trusting those in need with cash can be extremely effective, and when certain issue areas might warrant a different philanthropic approach.
18/11/21•43m 52s
Climate Change and Racial Justice
In the penultimate episode of Giving Done Right season two, CEP’s Phil and Grace with Gloria Walton, president and CEO of The Solutions Project. Gloria focuses on the intersection of climate change and racial justice, the value of grassroots organizing and advocacy in moving an issue forward, and what it will take to move philanthropy toward truly transformative grantmaking.
10/11/21•30m 10s
Investing for Impact
In this week’s episode of Giving Done Right, Phil and Grace talk with Liesel Pritzker Simmons, major donor and co-founder of impact investing firm Blue Haven Initiative. Liesel zeroes in on impact investing – what it is, how it works, and the role it plays in the philanthropic sector. She also discusses how applying an impact lens can minimize risk, and how policy change — like implementing a wealth tax — can go hand in hand with philanthropic and market-based approaches to social issues.
04/11/21•36m 24s
The Heart and the Head
In the seventh episode of Giving Done Right season two, CEP’s Phil and Grace talk with Rohini Nilekani, philanthropist and Giving Pledge signatory. Rohini discusses trust-based philanthropy, the effects of the pandemic in India, and what it means to create a family legacy through philanthropy.
28/10/21•30m 33s
The Arts and a Just World
In the sixth episode of Giving Done Right season two, CEP’s Phil and Grace talk with Dr. Elizabeth Alexander, poet and president of The Andrew W. Mellon Foundation. Elizabeth delves into how to apply a social and racial justice lens to your philanthropy, the fundamental role of the arts in a healthy society, and how the arts and artists are faring as we enter a new phase of the pandemic.
21/10/21•33m 38s
Unleashing Potential
In the fifth episode of Giving Done Right season two, Phil and Grace talk with Stephanie Hull, president and CEO of Girls Inc. Stephanie provides insight into what it’s like to lead a national nonprofit, the differences in her experiences with foundations versus individual donors, and what it takes to invest wisely in women and girls.
14/10/21•30m 7s
Finding Your Lane
In the fourth episode of season two, Phil and Grace talk with Jeremy Lin, professional basketball player of 'Linsanity' fame, and Patricia Sun, CEO of JLin Marketing. Jeremy and Patricia discuss stewarding Jeremy’s platform for good, sustaining support for the AAPI community, and how to carve out one’s authentic path as a donor.
07/10/21•35m 52s
The Unifier
In the third episode of season two, Phil and Grace talk with Tony Richardson, executive director of the Nord Family Foundation. Tony discusses how adversity he faced in his youth led him to a career in philanthropy and in public service, ways to bridge entrenched ideological divides, and how to carry an original donor’s intent and values through decades of giving.
30/09/21•37m 7s
Giving as a Family Affair
In the second episode of Giving Done Right season two, Phil and Grace talk with Julie Aleman, philanthropist and executive director of the Younger Family Fund. Julie discusses her experience giving alongside family members, the insights she’s gained from working on both sides of fundraising and grantmaking, and how families can foster a culture of generosity that carries through to the next generation.
23/09/21•30m 18s
Small but Mighty
In the debut episode of season two, hosts Phil Buchanan and Grace Nicolette talk with Cathy Moore, executive director of Epiphany Community Health Outreach Services (ECHOS) in Houston, TX. Tune in as Moore discusses her experience working on the frontlines during both Hurricane Harvey and the COVID-19 pandemic, how she believes donors can best step up in a time of crisis, and how to think about the tension between giving to meet immediate needs and addressing an issue’s root causes.
For more resources on effective giving, check out the Center for Effective Philanthropy's website: cep.org
Credits: Executive Producer - Sarah Martin Mixing by Kevin O’Connell Additional editing by Isabel Hibbard Music - “FasterFasterBrighter” by Blue Dot Sessions Artwork - Jay Kustka
Want to send us a note? Contact us at gdrpodcast@cep.org
16/09/21•33m 20s
Introducing: Season 2 of Giving Done Right
Join hosts Phil Buchanan and Grace Nicolette from the Center for Effective Philanthropy as they welcome major donors and nonprofit leaders to answer philanthropy’s burning questions and bust some myths about giving that have long plagued donors and nonprofits alike. Subscribe now for updates.
09/09/21•1m 55s
Bonus Episode — Taking Stock: Philanthropy’s Role in Supporting Racial Equity
In this special bonus episode of Giving Done Right, we share a recent conversation on philanthropy’s role in supporting racial equity and the movement for racial justice, which was part of the first event in CEP’s 20th Anniversary Virtual Learning Sessions, a dynamic series addressing some of the major challenges currently facing philanthropy in 2021.
Moderated by Giving Done Right co-host Grace Nicolette, this urgent discussion features Darren Walker, president of the Ford Foundation; Rashad Robinson, president of Color Of Change; Tricia Raikes, philanthropist and principal at the Raikes Foundation; and Yolanda Coentro, president and CEO of the Institute for Nonprofit Practice.
16/03/21•1h 8m
No Easy Answers: The Hard Work of Giving Done Right
In Episode 7 — the Season 1 finale! — hosts Phil and Grace are joined by Melinda Tuan, a trusted adviser to foundations and major donors around the country and managing director of Fund for Shared Insight. Melinda talks with Grace and Phil about the complexities of being an effective philanthropist and shares her deep expertise on how donors can navigate several specific challenges of giving, from measuring impact to making difficult decisions about where to give.
19/11/20•38m 58s
Changing Lives: The Power of Relationships
In Episode 6, Phil and Grace are joined by David Shapiro, CEO of MENTOR, a national nonprofit that works to drive equity through expanding quality mentoring relationships for young people. David talks with Grace and Phil about the rich tapestry of the nonprofit sector and makes the case for why supporting the people and relationships powering these organizations’ work can be a meaningful way for donors to have an impact.
12/11/20•34m 31s
In Community, By Community, For Community
In Episode 5, hosts Phil and Grace are joined by Chitra Hanstad, executive director of World Relief Seattle, Washington state’s largest refugee resettlement and services agency. Chitra talks with Grace and Phil about her experience leading a community-rooted organization — as well as discusses the ways in which donors’ behavior can either help or hinder her team’s work.
29/10/20•41m 44s
Making and Measuring Impact
In Episode 4, hosts Phil and Grace are joined by Tiffany Cooper Gueye, COO at Blue Meridian Partners and former CEO of the national nonprofit, BellXcel. Tiffany draws on her experiences as both a nonprofit leader and a funder, as well as her expertise in measurement and evaluation, to talk with Grace and Phil about how donors can better understand what works — and how they can go beyond their traditional networks to identify and support organizations that are doing vital work.
22/10/20•36m 28s
Holding up the Roof: How Philanthropy Can Bolster Democracy
In Episode 3, hosts Phil Buchanan and Grace Nicolette are joined by LaTosha Brown, co-founder of Black Voters Matter, an organization working to fight voter suppression and build power in marginalized, predominantly Black communities. LaTosha shares with Phil and Grace about her experience as an organizer and an intermediary and discusses the role that donors can play in strengthening democracy.
For more resources on effective giving, check out the Center for Effective Philanthropy's website: cep.org
Credits: Producer - Sarah Martin Music - “FasterFasterBrighter” by Blue Dot Sessions Artwork - Jay Kustka
Want to send us a note? Contact us at gdrpodcast@cep.org
15/10/20•24m 16s
Giving Until it Hurts: Faith, Pain, and Purpose
In Episode two, hosts Phil Buchanan and Grace Nicolette welcome Jason Hackmann, an entrepreneur and major donor whose name you won’t find in headlines, but who has quietly been investing deeply in efforts to end childhood slavery in Ghana. Jason discusses with Phil and Grace the role that personal experience and faith played in motivating him to identify and give meaningfully to a particular cause.
For more resources on effective giving, check out the Center for Effective Philanthropy's website: cep.org
Credits: Producer - Sarah Martin Music - “FasterFasterBrighter” by Blue Dot Sessions Artwork - Jay Kustka
Want to send us a note? Contact us at gdrpodcast@cep.org
08/10/20•22m 57s
Change, Not Charity
In episode one, hosts Phil Buchanan and Grace Nicolette talk with a powerhouse leader in philanthropy: Jacqueline Martinez Garcel, CEO of the Latino Community Foundation (LCF). Jacqueline discusses her work at LCF, the importance of investing in community leaders, the role of racial equity in giving effectively, and strategies for how donors can tap into their communities to find the right organizations to support.
For more resources on effective giving, check out the Center for Effective Philanthropy's website: cep.org
Credits: Producer - Sarah Martin Additional editing & mixing - Mary McGrath Music - “FasterFasterBrighter” by Blue Dot Sessions Artwork - Jay Kustka
Want to send us a note? Contact us at gdrpodcast@cep.org
01/10/20•32m 44s
Introducing: The Giving Done Right Podcast
Join hosts Phil Buchanan and Grace Nicolette from the Center for Effective Philanthropy as they welcome leaders from the nonprofit sector to answer philanthropy’s burning questions and bust some myths about giving that have long plagued donors and nonprofits alike. Subscribe now for updates.
08/09/20•2m 3s