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Who among us hasn’t thought about throwing it all away for an alleged Chinese spy?We’re back talking more Jensen Huang and the Nvidia scandal, and we’ve got our friends Jodi and Nora from the great Ringer podcast ‘We’re Obsessed’ helping us out.The girls also talk Jason and Tyler through a bunch of other topics: Elizabeth Holmes theories, the infamous Avril Lavigne body-double conspiracy, and the reclusive Chicago billionaire who can’t stop feeding squirrels.(00:00) Intro: The Walrus was Paul(02:36) Our guests: Jodi & Nora from We’re Obsessed(04:26) Jet lag isn’t real?(05:58) Scams vs. conspiracy theories(07:28) NVIDIA CEO’s affair with a “Chinese spy”(32:00) The Avril Lavigne body double conspiracy(40:48) The Chicago billionaire squirrel-feeding conspiracy(54:50) Nathan Fielder, Elizabeth Holmes, and Billy Evans theories(01:10 :25) About Nathan’s rumored current relationship …(01:15:14) Doomscroll: the $11.4M NVIDIA chip heist(01:20:38) Paraguay’s bank collapse & the ex-president charged(01:28:39)Jurassic otter: the 165-million-year-old throat goatSubscribe to our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@waitasecondpodcastEmail us:waitasecondpod@proton.meFollow us on IG: @waitasecondpodcastHosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler ParkerGuests: Jodi Walker and Nora PrinciottiProducer: Justin SaylesVideo editing: Jon JonesEngineering: Jason ArreolaSocial media: Paige RansburyThumbnail: Matt James
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The Nvidia Spy Scandal, Elizabeth Holmes Theories, Avril Lavigne Body Doubles, With Jodi Walker and Nora Princiotti

We’re headed back to Vatican City for another round of mysteries. And this time, we’re joined by AJ Gentile, host of the YouTube show and podcast The Why Files.



Jason, Tyler, and AJ look at a variety of topics, including the death of “God’s Banker,” Nordic aliens, Operation Gladio and the CIA, the Binance hack, and the strange case of the Nvidia’s CEO close friend.



Today’s agenda:

(00:00) Mysteries of the Vatican

(02:37) Our guest: AJ Gentile of The Why Files

(03:41) AJ’s conspiracy rabbit hole: Nordic aliens

(08:26) The death Roberto Calvi, “God’s Banker”

(37:37) Operation Gladio, the CIA, and the Mafia

(43:46) Doomscroll: The outrageous $6B Binance hack

(49:15) Nvidia’s CEO and the alleged Chinese agent

(54:14) Pier Paolo Pasolini’s murder investigation

(01:00:47) The OpenAI espionage case

(01:04:12) An important Voynich Manuscript update

(01:09:55) The Florida cop who took over a dead guy’s house



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A Mysterious Vatican Murder, the $6B Binance Hack, and Nordic Aliens, With AJ Gentile of The Why Files

We’re closing out Terror Month with a mailbag. You wrote in your wildest questions, and we did our best to answer. Topics include: Bill James’s other true crime book, government weather control theories, Operation Paperclip, Ryan Wedding updates, and a Ted Bundy connection, five decades later.



(00:00) Serial killer correspondence: BTK

(02:16) Welcome to the Terror Month Mailbag

(04:39) Bill James’s ‘The Man From the Train’ axe murder theories

(16:26) “My grandfather escorted Wernher von Braun …” (Operation Paperclip)

(30:52) A bad date: weather control conspiracies

(46:52) Ryan Wedding arrest investigation

(58:09) Conspiracy documentary picks

(01:10:59) 9/11, "a new Pearl Harbor," and the Tora Bora theory

(01:20:08) The unsolved Max Headroom signal-hijacking

(01:28:35) The Jared Kushner phone hack

(01:32:10) Ted Bundy linked to a 52-year-old cold case

(01:36:21) Knicks championship ring phishing email

(01:41:22) Hegseth and the broken Eisenhower globe



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Government Weather Control, a Ted Bundy Update, and Max Headroom: The Terror Month Mailbag

What’s a conspiracy without a rabbit hole to jump down?



Welcome back to Terror Month. This week, we’re covering the internet deep dives that are keeping us up at night, as Jason and Tyler welcome on Carter Roy of the podcast ‘Conspiracy Theories.’ Topics today include: CIA psychic spies, a story about the Contras, the Chronovisor time camera, and the recent report that O.J. Simpson may have had some help.



(00:00) Internet rabbit holes gone wrong: The story of Q

(03:09) Our guest: Carter Roy of ‘Conspiracy Theories’

(03:41) Carter’s nagging conspiracy deep dive: The Vegas shooter

(10:15)  Kiki Camarena, the Contras, and Félix

(26:31) CIA psychics and the Ark of the Covenant

(37:58) The Scientology connection

(41:43) The Chronovisor: the Vatican's time camera

(51:17) What's really in the Vatican archives?

(01:04:34) Doomscroll: Did O.J. have an accomplice?

(01:10:29) The livestreamed execution gets called off

(01:15:11) The deadly fire at a Canadian army base

(01:18:34) Albania's "Flamingo Revolution" update

(01:21:57) Kim Jong-un is (once again) not dead … we think

(01:26:54) AI cracks Napoleon's secret letter



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CIA Psychic Spies, a Vatican Time Machine, and an O.J. Simpson Accomplice? With Carter Roy.

Is Rob Mahoney the most normal man at The Ringer? Debatable. But we are 
sure that he’s our guest today and down to get weird with Jason and 
Tyler. On the agenda today: a French aristocrat accused of murdering his
 family who became a fugitive, Jason’s top 10 fugitives still on the 
loose, a discussion about the Fort Hood shooter’s execution, and a 
lengthy debate about Shrek’s, umm, anatomy.

(0:00) The war criminal who became a healing doctor
(03:05) Our guest: Rob Mahoney
(05:02) Rob’s conspiracy theory: Kelly Clarkson and the animatronic bird
(10:39) Xavier Dupont de Ligonnès: Who is XDL?
(15:05) The bodies under the terrace and his last known location
(28:49 Why hasn’t he been charged? French law and Anatomy of a Fall
(35:10) Top 10 fugitives still on the loose
(42:42) Remember Kony?
(43:23) How would you disappear in 2026?
(45:27) Historic cases: Mr. Cruel, the Doodler, Freeway Phantom, I-70 
Killer
(55:07) Possible serial killer on a Lansing, Michigan, trail
(58:04) The Fort Hood shooter’s execution debacle
(01:03:18) How do you feel about Shrek’s d**k?
(01:10:04) One more CIA gold bar update
(01:13:49) Hackers heat up French supermarket fridges
(01:17:30) Former German spy chief arrested for treason
(01:21:58) The Lighthouse of Alexandria signet found underwater

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Top 10 Killers on the Loose, a Livestreamed Execution, and Shrek’s Massive Hog, With Rob Mahoney

Terror Month continues and we’re looking upward to the skies. Jason and Tyler use last week’s wild flydubai story to discuss other harrowing aviation incidents before hitting updates on the Siberian plague situation, Christa Pike’s botched execution, and more.



(00:00) The mysterious case of Ben Padilla

(02:57) The flydubai copilot axe attack

(08:47) Edibles and passing out on a red-eye

(13:26) Germanwings Flight 9525

(30:02) The flydubai "false flag" theory

(32:34) Doomscroll: The plague is back?

(41:59)  Christa Pike update

(52:01)  Another Epstein death

(56:04) The Fed official honeypot scheme

(01:02:46) Anthropic gets even more religious

(01:07:16) Houthis (and Toyotas 4runners)

(01:12:09) The Arizona road-rage AI video



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Cockpit Axe Attacks, the Plague Is Back, and a Botched-Execution Update

Wait a Second… is kicking off Terror Month with the most terrifying idea of all: nuclear annihilation. Following news last month that an AI chatbot nearly got us into a war with China, Jason and Tyler look back at the early-’80s incidents that nearly brought the Cold War to a boil. With the help of The Ringer’s Joel Anderson, they talk NORAD and real-life war games.



Later, they break down the Tupac murder trial and conviction of Duane “Keefe D” Davis, which Joel wrote about on The Ringer last week.



Today’s agenda:

(00:00) The real-life ‘WarGames’

(02:39) Our guest today: Joel Anderson

(04:00) Could AI accidentally start a war?

(08:17) Setting the stage for a nuclear near-miss

(26:17) The Cold War gets very, very close

(39:13) The Soviet “Dead Hand” System

(42:30) The Tupac murder verdict and the conspiracy theories

(53:56) The LAPD, Keefe D, and the case against him

(58:08) The American Idol Murder Case

(01:03:17) A Bob Iger COVID conspiracy

(01:06:59) Hackers breach the FBI. What did they want?

(01:09:49) The mysterious Milwaukee “bad boy” sound



Read Joel’s piece on the Keefe D verdict here: https://www.theringer.com/2026/09/23/music/tupac-shakur-murder-trial-keffe-d-davis-conviction-conspiracy-theories



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The False Alarm That Almost Started a Nuclear War. Plus: the Tupac Trial, With Joel Anderson.

Jason and Tyler are back and they're breaking down one of the most mysterious cases in American history: the murder of Lizzie Borden's parents. With the help of producer Justin, they look into the case against Lizzie, alternative suspects, and why the story was ripe for an adaptation in Ryan Murphy's Netflix series 'Monster.'Then, they look at one of the most messed-up cases they've seen recently: the R.C. Horsch investigation in Philadelphia. Are we looking at a serial killer situation?

Today's agenda:

(00:00) The grisly case of Christman of Kerpen

(02:22) Lizzie Borden took an axe ...

(10:26) The 90-minute gap.

(14:08) Wouldn't it make a noise?

(24:27) Let's talk about motive.

(30:44) The Lizzie-Bridget theory.

(39:11) So who did it?

(55:35) One more thought on Bill James.

(01:00:45) The Philadelphia house of horrors: What is happening here?

(01:15:04) Doomscroll: The Florida plastic surgeon who defended himself.

(01:22:39) We almost went to war with China ... because of a chatbot.

(01:23:55) The Russian-backed murder plot we're obsessing over.

(01:26:50) A new King Tut theory.

Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler ParkerProducer: Justin SaylesVideo editing: Jordan SatmaryEngineering: Jason ArreolaSocial media: Paige RansburyThumbnail: Matt James

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Houses of Horror: The Lizzie Borden Mystery and a Possible Serial Killer in Philly

Seems like a lot of you buy into the WTC Building 7 conspiracies. So, we’re diving back in. Jason and Tyler are joined by friend of the show Big Wos to break down your Building 7 comments, Osama Bin Laden theories, and more.



Today’s agenda:



00:06: The 1977 Russian Embassy Fire

02:30: Our guest: Wosny Lambre

04:28: 9/11 memories

17:17: WTC Building 7, Revisited

44:42: Doomscroll: Don Jr.’s Big Fat Russian-Funded Wedding

49:29: The CIA gold bar guy is taking a plea?

52:34: Your Apple Watch doesn’t care about eavesdropping laws

55:10: The Heathrow disaster

57:18: Why are the military commissary freezers malfunctioning?

01:00:28: Ancient cannibalism update

01:02:26: The earliest signs of human drug use



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Producer: Justin Sayles and T Cruz

Video editing: Jordan Satmary

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The 9/11 Building 7 Theory, Revisited: Our Rebuttal, With Wosny Lambre

It’s the silver anniversary of September 11, and Jason and Tyler are digging into two mysteries that endure to this day: the anthrax attacks and what really happened to WTC Building 7.Here’s their agenda:00:01: What’s missing from the 9/11 Commission Report?00:45: Today’s topic: September 11, a quarter-century later.05:12: Who really sent the anthrax letters?47:45: WTC Building 7: conspiracy or not?58:47: Doomscroll: OpenAI wants to slow down?!01:02:18: Saturn grew a decagon!01:04:02: Imagine you dig up a viking hoard …01:05:28: Your LG TV hears for you … maybe01:07:41: DK Metcalf, Dre Greenlaw, and the NFL’s sudden Antarctica fascinationFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@waitasecondpodcastHosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler ParkerProducers: T Cruz and Justin SaylesVideo editing: Jordan SatmaryEngineering: Sarah ReddySocial media: Paige Ransbury
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The Mystery of the 9/11 Anthrax Attacks + WTC Building 7

Jason and Tyler are joined once again by co-host of The Watch and first-ballot Wait a Second... hall-of-famer, Chris Ryan. And they've got something scary to dig into: CIA Director John Ratcliffe's secret trip to Moscow and everything that's happened related to Russia since. Also on the agenda and slightly less scary (we hope): the island that disappeared.Here's today's rundown:(00:08) History Repeats: Kissinger's secret trip to Moscow(02:29) Our guest today: Chris Ryan(03:28) The Big Story: John Ratcliffe's secret trip to Russia(25:03) Are we equipped for the wars we're in?(28:23) Wait, an island disappeared?(31:08) Top 10 Disappearing, Reappearing, or Legendary Land Masses(40:50) The Doomscroll: Daniel Kinahan talk with CR(49:04) Hugging Face attack updates(59:37) And finally ... Daejon LoveFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@waitasecondpodcastHosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler ParkerGuest: Chris RyanProducers: T Cruz and Justin SaylesVideo editing: Marco Escalante and T CruzEngineering: Sarah ReddySocial media: Paige Ransbury
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The CIA’s Secret Trip to Moscow and the Mysterious Island That Vanished, With Chris Ryan

Buckle up: Conspiracy Bill is back. Bill Simmons joins the pod to surprise Jason and Tyler with the 12 stories that have had him doing deep dives. Here’s today’s agenda:



00:07: Stephen King’s alias

04:39: Bill Simmons’s alias: Conspiracy Bill

08:40: Conspiracy Bill’s 12 Deepest Dives of the Year

20:12: No. 12: Havana Syndrome

25:35: No. 11: The Fox News mask incident

29:44: No. 10: Epstein won the Powerball?!

31:37: No. 9: The Whitehouse Correspondents Dinner

35:51: No. 8: What happened at the Miami mall?

38:41: No. 7: The Niners substation situation

41:32: No. 6: Nancy Guthrie

43:24: No. 5: What’s up with Trump’s ear? His hand?

48:35: No. 4: The microphone …

48:35: No. 3: Missing scientists

54:36: No. 2: Matt Miller … or Karen Read

01:00:33 No. 1: The Lindsay Clancy case

01:10:25 Bonus round: Why did Mark Cuban sell the Mavs? Plus: JC’s Long Island serial killer theory.



Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@waitasecondpodcastHosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler ParkerGuest: Bill SimmonsProducers: T Cruz and Justin SaylesVideo editing: Marco Escalante and T CruzEngineering: Jacob CornettSocial media: Paige Ransbury
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Conspiracy Bill’s Top 12 WILDEST Stories of 2026, With Bill Simmons

Midnight Boy and very concerned Lakers fan Jomi Adeniran joins Jason and Tyler to break down an eventful—and suspicious—week in L.A. sports. First, they break down everything surrounding the Lakers sale (including the involvement of the alleged "good" Kushner) and the ongoing Buss family drama. Then, they look at the NBA's investigation into Kawhi Leonard and Steve Ballmer, which is reportedly nearing a conclusion.

02:48: Connecting all the dots on the Lakers Sale16:48: Adam Silver's role in this?29:25: The "good" Kushner31:30: The Buss family drama: Jeanie goes 20-v-142:46: Lakers GM Chris Paul?44:40: The latest on Kawhi57:25: The Pablo Torre of it all01:00:38: The Doomscroll: Bill Gates's daughter and cookie stuffing01:05:50: Evidence in the ice cream box01:09:30: Two origins of life on Earth?01:11:35: The Romans took tax fraud really seriously01:14:55: Military leave for 'GTA VI'

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Lakers Sale Conspiracies, Buss Family Drama, and Kawhi Investigation Updates, With Jomi Adeniran

The Atlantic’s Charlie Warzel joins the podcast to help break down the small-potato scenarios of AI run amok.



In this episode:

(00:00) Intro

(7:15) Low-stakes AI scenarios

(40:21) Trump’s catering truck escape

(43:57) AI viruses

(47:22) The missing Nicolas Cage movie

(54:18) Ancient Chinese civilization

(57:02) Italy’s cheese banks

(59:21) Flock stalking

(1:03:26) Iranian money laundering



Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker

Guest: Charlie Warzel

Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Justin Sayles

Art direction: David Shoemaker

Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton

Engineering: Sarah Reddy

Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff
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Low-Stakes AI Scenarios, High-Stakes AI Viruses, and the Trump Catering Truck Escape, With Charlie Warzel

Jason and Tyler welcome back co-host of ‘The Press Box’, Bryan Curtis to review to tape and answer the question on the nation’s collective mind: does President Trump keep pooping himself? 



In this episode:

(00:00) Intro

(6:25) Presidential health lies

(19:37) Poop or the field?

(44:19) Doomscroll: An AI slowdown?

(52:47) Alleged NATO spy

(54:39) eBay stalking scandal

(58:11) Ancient Amazonian city found 



Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker

Guest: Bryan Curtis

Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Justin Sayles

Art direction: David Shoemaker

Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton

Engineering: Sarah Reddy

Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff
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Did the President Sh*t His Pants? A Wait a Second... Investigation. Plus: NATO Spy Scandal and eBay Stalking With Bryan Curtis

Chris Ryan returns to help Jason and Tyler give the people what they want: cryptids! Inspired by Christopher Nolan’s ‘The Odyssey,’ they take a look at some of folklore’s most fantastical creatures.



In this episode:

(00:00) Intro

(3:31) Cryptids in ‘The Odyssey’

(16:26) The goblin shark

(19:55) The unidentified organism

(22:38) The barreleye fish

(23:20) New Loch Ness Monster sighting

(25:25) Cryptids that’d be the best hang

(40:19) Giant great white shark

(42:02) Stories we’re keeping tabs on



Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker

Guest: Chris Ryan

Producers: Donnie Beacham and Justin Sayles

Art direction: David Shoemaker

Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton

Engineering: Sarah Reddy

Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff
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'The Odyssey' Cryptids Extravaganza! Plus: OpenAI's Rogue Hack & an Epstein-Linked Death, With Chris Ryan

Jason and Tyler are joined by cohost of The Ringer Fantasy Football Show Danny Heifetz to discuss allegations that China is fueling data center resistance.



In this episode:

(00:00) Intro

(3:19) Roosevelt shot McKinley?

(8:30) Chinese psyop causing data center hate?

(40:38) Trump’s "Freedom Fuel"

(53:47) The Doomscroll: Taylor Farms

(58:09) Police buying Israeli spy vans

(1:00:07) Meta targeting employees?

(1:03:49) The Center for Intellectual Freedom

(1:07:05) Jimothy the raccoon



Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker

Guest: Danny Heifetz

Producers: Donnie Beacham and Justin Sayles

Art direction: David Shoemaker

Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton

Engineering: Sarah Reddy

Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff

Additional support: Dae Shik Kim
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The War Over Data Centers, Freedom Fuel, and Jimothy the Deformed Raccoon, With Danny Heifetz

Former national security adviser and cohost of Pod Save the World Ben Rhodes joins to discuss the conspiracy of an informal agreement between superpowers to stay out of each other’s spheres.



In this episode:

(00:00) Intro

(3:15) Spheres of influence

(21:55) Marco Rubio running Venezuela?

(29:11) Let’s talk about drones

(38:45) Ben Rhodes’s top conspiracies

(43:59) Tips for the paranoid

(48:58) The death of Lindsey Graham

(51:42) Terrorists and AI

(54:20) Waymo calls police on teens

(55:46) The MSG celebrity “risk” list

(1:00:00) Zara’s dangerous pants



Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker

Guest: Ben Rhodes

Producers: Donnie Beacham and Justin Sayles

Art direction: David Shoemaker

Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton

Engineering: Sarah Reddy

Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff

Additional support: Dae Shik Kim
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Does the U.S. Have a Secret Deal With China? Plus, MSG's Celebrity "Risk" List With Ben Rhodes

Jason and Tyler welcome Anthony Dabbundo, cohost of The Ringer Gambling Show, to discuss the latest in a long string of controversies involving the governing body of football.



In this episode:

(00:00) Intro

(4:19) Is the World Cup rigged?

(13:49) Is corruption affecting the matches?

(23:30) What’s the answer?

(29:55) Famous “rumored to be rigged” matches

(50:10) The Doomscroll: ESPN analyst investigated

(56:33) The Mitch McConnell mystery

(58:41) Donald Trump’s meme coin

(1:02:52) Explosive diarrhea!



Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker

Guest: Anthony Dabbundo

Producers: Donnie Beacham and Justin Sayles

Art direction: David Shoemaker

Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton

Engineering: Sarah Reddy

Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff

Additional support: Dae Shik Kim
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FIFA World Cup Rigged? Plus, the Mitch McConnell and Matt Miller Mysteries With Anthony Dabbundo

Cohost of Midnight Boys Jomi Adeniran joins to crack open the star-spangled mailbag and answer the questions lighting up our inbox this Fourth of July.



In this episode:

(00:00) Intro

(4:42) What makes a good conspiracy?

(12:37) Favorite sports conspiracies

(23:47) Princess Diana and international intrigue

(46:49) The Doomscroll: Ukrainian catfishing

(49:39) Russian hackers



Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker

Guest: Jomi Adeniran

Producers: Donnie Beacham and Justin Sayles

Art direction: David Shoemaker

Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton

Engineering: Sarah Reddy

Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff

Additional support: Dae Shik Kim 
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The Fourth of July Mailbag: World Cup Conspiracies and Princess Diana With Jomi Adeniran

Actor/comedian Adam Conover joins to discuss Peter Thiel’s invitation-only organization and a list of the all-time evil billionaires. Plus, a pair of weight-loss drug stories, drone warfare in Russia, and theories about the afterlife.



In this episode:

(00:00) Intro

(3:02) Peter Thiel’s "Dialog"

(13:13) Jason’s theory about Dialog

(38:03) All-time evil billionaires

(48:23) The Doomscroll: Ozempic hacked

(50:51) New obesity drug in the White House?

(53:09) Claude Mythos update

(56:11) Ukrainian drones

(1:02:23) The ghost of Dennis Hopper



Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker

Guest: Adam Conover

Producers: Donnie Beacham and Justin Sayles

Art direction: David Shoemaker

Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton

Engineering: Sarah Reddy

Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff

Additional Support: Dae Shik Kim
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Peter Thiel's Not-So-Secret Society and the Evil Billionaire Hall of Fame With Adam Conover

Writer/producer Amelia Wedemeyer joins to help break down the Karen Read case and Elon Musk’s involvement in anti-immigration unrest. Plus, as always, The Doomscroll with Tyler Parker.



In this episode:

(00:00) Intro

(2:31) The Karen Read case

(28:00) What to expect next?

(29:01) Elon Musk fomenting race riots?

(42:35) The Doomscroll: 'Pokémon GO'

(44:45) DOGE whistleblower

(45:41) Gold bar updates

(49:59) Jared Kushner’s "flamingo revolution"

(53:17) Anthropic's Claude Mythos



Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker

Guest: Amelia Wedemeyer

Producers: Donnie Beacham and Justin Sayles

Art direction: David Shoemaker

Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton

Engineering: Sarah Reddy

Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff

Additional Support: Dae Shik Kim
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Karen Read Updates, Elon Stokes Race Riots, and 'Pokémon GO' Drones With Amelia Wedemeyer

Author Jordan Harper joins to discuss the process and inspirations behind his stories before Tyler Parker takes us through The Doomscroll.



In this episode:

(00:00) Intro

(3:33) Jordan Harper on crime and noir in L.A.

(37:27) The Doomscroll: Black Dahlia update

(40:59) Marxist AI

(44:11) Yogurt shop murder convictions overturned

(45:43) Long Island serial killer

(47:20) Trump’s sushi investment

(50:00) Havana syndrome update

(52:14) Luxury survivalist community



Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker

Guest: Jordan Harper

Producers: Donnie Beacham and Justin Sayles

Art direction: David Shoemaker

Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton

Engineering: Sarah Reddy

Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff

Additional Support: Dae Shik Kim
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Los Angeles Noir, Illegal Whale Sushi, and ‘A Violent Masterpiece’ With Jordan Harper

Wosny Lambre returns to discuss the arrest of a CIA officer accused of stealing gold bars, and a conspiracy around NBA commissioner Adam Silver



In this episode:

(2:54) Stealing gold bars from the CIA

(25:50) Adam Silver and the NBA flopping conspiracy

(45:52) The Doomscroll: UFC at the White House

(53:18) Google employee charged with insider trading

(56:24) FBI and anti-AI extremism

(58:18) Peter Thiel’s move to Argentina



Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker

Guest: Wosny Lambre

Producers: Donnie Beacham and Justin Sayles

Art direction: David Shoemaker

Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton

Engineering: Sarah Reddy

Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff

Additional Support: Dae Shik Kim
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The CIA Gold Bar Heist, the NBA “Hate Watch” Conspiracy, and UFC at the White House With Wosny Lambre

Comedian and creative director of The Onion, Tim Heidecker, joins to discuss the rise of disinformation and the fall of Alex Jones.



In this episode:

(2:59) Alex Jones, Sandy Hook, and The Onion

(14:48) Developing the Alex Jones impression

(17:27) Taking over InfoWars

(25:02) Fear of conservative backlash?

(29:46) The Doomscroll: Don Jr.’s wedding

(32:25) The Fox News mask

(35:05) Thomas Massie

(38:02) AI vs. the Pope

(42:02) Gaza flotilla

(44:56) Mark Zuckerberg



Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker

Guest: Tim Heidecker

Producers: Donnie Beacham, and Justin Sayles

Art direction: David Shoemaker

Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton

Engineering: Sarah Reddy

Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff

Additional Support: Dae Shik Kim
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Alex Jones, InfoWars, and the Pope vs. AI with Tim Heidecker

Chris Ryan returns for another “doomscroll” with Jason and Tyler.



In this episode:

(2:58) Hantavirus and Ebola outbreaks

(15:23) CIA and the Tecámac car bombing

(22:14) RFK Jr. and tanning restrictions

(30:52) Missing Maldives divers

(38:11) Cuban military drones?

(43:56) Fun insurance fraud schemes

(49:23) ‘The Feed is Fake’

(1:03:17) Top five conspiracy theories



Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker

Guest: Chris Ryan

Producers: Cory McConnell, Donnie Beacham, and Justin Sayles

Art direction: David Shoemaker

Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton

Engineering: Sarah Reddy

Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff

Additional Support: Dae Shik Kim
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CIA vs. the Cartel, Cuban Drones, and Top 5 Conspiracy Theories With Chris Ryan

Host of Higher Learning and the Midnight Boys, Van Lathan, joins to discuss leaked recordings that allegedly reveal U.S. and Israeli interference in Central America, and the unsealing of government UFO files.



In this episode:

(3:08) A ‘Honduras-Gate’ explainer

(11:43) Latin America intervention

(28:12) Israel’s involvement

(37:23) UFO files unsealed

(47:23) The Doomscroll: Bieber and tech CEOs

(50:24) Plague ship update

(55:11) China’s leader purges generals

(1:03:00) Clavicular and influencing the youth



Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker

Guest: Van Lathan

Producers: Cory McConnell, Donnie Beacham, and Justin Sayles

Art direction: David Shoemaker

Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton

Engineering: Sarah Reddy

Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff

Additional Support: Dae Shik Kim
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A New U.S. Secret Plan to Destabilize Latin America? Plus, the UFO Files Letdown With Van Lathan

Host of The Press Box and Ringer Tailgate, Joel Anderson, returns to discuss the latest in the Jeffrey Epstein saga.



In this episode:

(4:16) Epstein's suicide note

(19:14) How real is this note?

(24:59) Maxwell Hill is Ghislaine Maxwell?

(40:33) Predicting a pardon for Ghislaine

(43:30) The Doomscroll: AI preying on old people?

(49:00) The plague ship

(53:38) Area 51 earthquakes

(55:42) U.S. low on gas and ammo



Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker

Guest: Joel Anderson

Producers: Cory McConnell, Donnie Beacham, and Justin Sayles

Art direction: David Shoemaker

Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton

Engineering: Sarah Reddy

Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff

Additional Support: Dae Shik Kim
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Epstein Suicide Note and the Prison Life of Ghislaine Maxwell With Joel Anderson

Host of The Press Box, Bryan Curtis, returns to help dig into the conspiracy theories around the shootings at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner and in Butler, Pennsylvania.



In this episode:

(3:27) The believers and the “evidence”

(21:56) The Butler, PA attempt

(46:56) The Doomscroll: Russini’s playlist

(51:20) Michael Tracey vs. Jim Acosta

(57:15) U.S. soldier arrested for Polymarket bet

(59:13) Scientology speed runs psyop

(1:01:49) Remains of Titan submarine victims



Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker

Guest: Bryan Curtis

Producers: Cory McConnell, Donnie Beacham, and Justin Sayles

Art direction: David Shoemaker

Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton

Engineering: Sarah Reddy

Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff

Additional Support: Dae Shik Kim
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Trump Assassination Attempts: What’s Real and What’s Not, With Bryan Curtis

Wosny Lambre joins to discuss the surveillance machine of Madison Square Garden, and the NBA gambling ring.



In this episode:

(2:51) James Dolan’s surveillance machine

(14:44) MSG’s petty moves

(28:07) Facial recognition in sports

(31:37) What would David Stern do?

(35:27) NBA gambling ring

(53:30) LUSID score

(58:34) The Doomscroll: Russini and Vrabel

(1:05:06) The Onion buys InfoWars

(1:07:17) Kash Patel vs. The Atlantic

(1:10:26) Missing scientists and UFOs

(1:15:01) RFK and raccoons



Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker

Guest: Wosny Lambre

Producers: Cory McConnell, Donnie Beacham, and Justin Sayles

Art direction: David Shoemaker

Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton

Engineering: Sarah Reddy

Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff

Additional Support: Dae Shik Kim
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MSG’s Surveillance Machine and the NBA Gambling Ring, With Wosny Lambre

Chris Ryan returns for a full “doomscroll” episode with Jason and Tyler.



In this episode:

(3:13) The mystery of the missing scientists

(17:15) Coked-up sharks

(20:25) The collapse of the Atlantic current

(26:17) Anthropic’s Mythos

(39:17) The Geese psyop debate

(55:41) Serbian ghost truckers

(1:02:22) Listener emails



Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker

Guest: Chris Ryan

Producers: Cory McConnell, Donnie Beacham, and Justin Sayles

Art direction: David Shoemaker

Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton

Engineering: Sarah Reddy

Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff

Additional Support: Dae Shik Kim 
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Missing Scientists, Serbian Ghost Truckers, and a Geese Debate With Chris Ryan

This week, Jason and Tyler welcome comedian Jena Friedman to question the circumstances around the death of Jeffrey Epstein.



In this episode:

(4:57) Reactions to the news of Epstein's death

(6:30) Julie K. Brown’s investigation

(19:14) Biden, Obama and of course: Trump

(50:01) LUCID score

(56:49) The Doomscroll



Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker

Guest: Jenna Friedman 

Producers: Cory McConnell, Donnie Beacham, and Justin Sayles

Art direction: David Shoemaker

Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton

Engineering: Sarah Reddy

Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff
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The Mysterious Death of Jeffrey Epstein, With Jena Friedman

This week, Jason and Tyler welcome producer Justin Sayles to dig into a medical condition that the government claims doesn’t exist.



In this episode:

(3:08) Havana Syndrome

(18:29) Reasons to cover up

(27:05) Explaining the weapon

(35:51) Let’s talk about "The Chef"

(42:15) The Norwegian scientist

(46:03) Other energy-directed weapons

(49:27) Ranking military inventions

(1:00:44) Is Havana Syndrome real?

(1:07:16) LUSID score

(1:10 :50) The Doomscroll



Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker

Guest: Justin Sayles

Producers: Cory McConnell, Donnie Beacham, and Justin Sayles

Art direction: David Shoemaker

Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton

Engineering: Sarah Reddy

Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff
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Havana Syndrome: Elaborate Hoax, or Sinister Spycraft? Plus, Checking in on the Charlie Kirk Conspiracy.

This week, Jason and Tyler welcome Joel Anderson, cohost of The Press Box, to discuss the end times.



In this episode:

(4:49) Dealing with the dread

(16:53) Predicting the war in Iran

(24:19) The Rapture

(34:50) The AI apocalypse

(48:53) Four Horsemen bracketology

(1:15:51) The LUSID Score

(1:17:54) The Doomscroll



Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker

Guest: Joel Anderson

Producers: Cory McConnell, Donnie Beacham, and Justin Sayles

Art direction: David Shoemaker

Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton

Engineering: Sarah Reddy

Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff
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Apocalypse When? Checking In on War, Nukes, AI, and What to Actually Believe, With Joel Anderson

This week on Wait a Second…, Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker are joined once again by Chris Ryan. They cover the JFK assassination, the CIA's potential involvement, the conspiracy theories that followed, and their myriad cultural ripple effects since 1963. Later on in The Doomscroll: The guys evaluate Benjamin Netanyahu's evidently AI-enhanced proof of life video, scrutinize a UFO sighting in Queens, and debate whether the disappearance of an American aviation expert could actually be a clandestine defection to a rival superpower.04:09: A look back at the JFK investigations and potential cover-ups14:34: A Lee Harvey Oswald timeline21:34: Jason's JFK assassination theory29:37: Chris's visit to the Book Repository32:28: The zany ways the CIA tried to kill Castro54:16: The LUSID Score01:00:06: The Doomscroll: UFOs, disappearing aviation experts, and Netanyahu's "death"Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler ParkerGuest: Chris RyanProducers: Cory McConnell, Donnie Beacham, and Justin SaylesArt direction: David ShoemakerMotion graphics and animations: Chris CalletonEngineering: Sarah ReddySet design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff
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The JFK Cover-Up: Conspiracies, Cuba, and the CIA. Plus: Netanyahu’s Alive (We Think?), With Chris Ryan.

This week, Jason and Tyler welcome the host of The Press Box, Bryan Curtis, to dive into the world of prediction markets.



In this episode:

(2:54) Polymarket and Iran

(17:59) SOTU bets

(23:57) Giannis and Kalshi

(38:00) True-false quiz

(45:37) Number stations

(55:17) Predicting the Democrat nominee

(1:00:14) LUSIC score

(1:03:47) The Doomscroll



Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker

Guest: Bryan Curtis

Producers: Cory McConnell, Donnie Beacham, and Justin Sayles

Art direction: David Shoemaker

Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton

Engineering: Sarah Reddy

Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff
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Betting on Your Life: Kalshi and Polymarket’s War Wagers

Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker welcome Higher Learning’s Van Lathan for a grab bag of an episode that covers everything from killer robots to cloning your pets. Buckle up!



In this episode:

(2:45) Anthropic AI

(12:42) A communist streak

(19:38) 'Project Hail Mary'

(33:25) Starting five killer robots

(42:24) Jim Carrey replicant?

(54:31) The LUSID score

(57:04) The Doomscroll: Missing general, Bohemian Grove, and Rachel Dolezal



Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker

Guest: Van Lathan

Producers: Cory McConnell, Donnie Beacham, and Justin Sayles

Art direction: David Shoemaker

Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton

Engineering: Sarah Reddy

Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff
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AI Warfare! Killer Robots! Jim Carrey Clones?! With Van Lathan

This week on Wait a Second…, Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker are joined by Ringer legend Chris Ryan, who offers some insight into British politics, tabloid culture, and the still spreading ripple effects of the Jeffrey Epstein scandal for members of Parliament and the royal family.In this episode:00:00: Before Jeffrey, there was Jeffries06:22: Who is Peter Mandelson?13:28: Diving into the Epstein files20:56: The fall of Prince Andrew43:52: A true/false quiz on historical punishments for royal indiscretions50:30: The LUSID score54:21: The Doomscroll: Rogue vacuums, Sam Altman, and El MenchoHosts: Jason Concepion and Tyler ParkerGuest: Chris RyanProducers: Cory McConnell, Donnie Beacham, and Justin SaylesArt direction: David ShoemakerMotion graphics and animations: Chris CalletonEngineering: Sarah ReddySet design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff
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Jeffrey Epstein, Prince Andrew, and the Backlash in Britain, With Chris Ryan

It’s the inaugural episode of Wait a Second…, and we’re covering the one who’s always watching: Big Brother. Bill Simmons joins Jason and Tyler to talk about the disappearance of Savannah Guthrie’s mother, Ring’s disastrous Super Bowl commercial, and the history of surveillance in pop culture, from 1984 to seemingly innocent viral apps that may be harvesting your biometrics. Jump down this rabbit hole with us, but make sure to put tape over your webcam.In this episode:00:00: Remember FaceApp? About that …04:25: Searching for Nancy Guthrie with doorbell footage.06:03: Ring’s disastrous Super Bowl ad.14:40: How do young people feel about surveillance?16:36: A mostly completely pop culture timeline of surveillance.30:05: Can you actually opt out of the surveillance state?43:30: AI and human nature.47:32: The LUSID Score54:17: The Doomscroll: Frog poison, Obama’s alien theories, and KD’s possible burner account.01:12:37: A half-baked Conspiracy Bill theory.Hosts: Jason Concecpion, Tyler ParkerGuest: Bill SimmonsProducers: Cory McConnell, Donnie Beacham, Justin SaylesArt direction: David ShoemakerMotion graphics and animations: Chris CalletonEngineering: Donald LoBiancoSet design: Hannah Leiken, Jonathan Ratliff
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Ring Cameras, Nancy Guthrie, and the State of the Surveillance State, with Bill Simmons

Welcome to Wait a Second..., your weekly back channel for all the weird, WTF, and jaw-dropping news that break the group chats. Each week, Jason Concepcion, Tyler Parker, and rotating cast explore the grim rabbit holes and weird webs that connect our modern world. We're looking at mysterious drones, government coverups, the moral bankruptcy of the 1 percent, and a whole lot more. The news cycle moves fast. We're here to break it all down, frame by frame.Listen or watch on Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts.Follow us on IG: @waitsecondpodcastTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@waitasecondpodEmail us at waitasecondpod@proton.meHosts: Jason Concepcion, Tyler ParkerProducers: Cory McConnell, Donnie Beacham, Justin SaylesArt direction: David ShoemakerAnimation and motion graphics: Chris Calleton 
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