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The Talk Show With John Gruber

The director’s commentary track for Daring Fireball. Long digressions on Apple, technology, design, movies, and more.

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Chance Miller returns to the show. Topics include iOS 27’s progress over summer, live baseball in Vision Pro, the RAM crisis, Apple’s trade secret lawsuit against OpenAI and io, and the EU/DMA situation.

454: ‘Getting the Snack Right’, With Chance Miller

Louie Mantia returns to the show to talk about the state of UI and icon design on Apple’s platforms, and some speculation on Apple’s trade secret lawsuit against OpenAI.

453: ‘What’s in Louie’s Wallet’, With Louie Mantia

Quinn Nelson returns to the show to discuss OpenAI’s ChatGPT/Codex “native” app migration fiasco, Siri AI in Apple’s OS 27 betas, MacOS 27 Golden Gate, and the hottest new cell phone of the year, the Trump T1.

452: ‘A Scam Held Together With Patriotism and Golden Paint’, With Quinn Nelson

The great John Moltz returns to the show. Topics include Apple’s hardware price hikes in response to the global RAM/SSD shortage, and some spitballing on what we like about the UI changes in the MacOS 27 Golden Gate beta.

451: ‘Taking Drugs to Get Fat’, With John Moltz

Jason Snell returns to the show for a look back at WWDC 2026, and a look ahead to “Designed in California”, his and Myke Hurley’s upcoming 50-episode Apple history podcast.

450: ‘Perp Walk for Selfies’, With Jason Snell

Recorded in front of a live audience at The California Theatre in San Jose on Tuesday 9 June 2026, special guests Joanna Stern and Nilay Patel join John Gruber to discuss Apple’s announcements at WWDC 2026.

449: ‘Live From WWDC 2026’, With Joanna Stern and Nilay Patel

Stephen Hackett returns to the show to help me make sense of a problem that is hard even to describe, let alone solve, regarding Apple One, family sharing, a separate Media & Purchasing account, and iCloud storage space. Also: what we're expecting from WWDC 2026.

448: ‘Twins Named John’, With Stephen Hackett

Adam Lisagor returns to the show to talk about Hovercraft, his new virtual presentation camera app for Mac, and how he's developing it with AI coding tools. Also, delicious Japanese spite sandwich cookies.

447: ‘A Sociopathic Father’, With Adam Lisagor

MG Siegler returns to the show to discuss Apple’s announcement that Tim Cook is stepping aside (into the role of executive chairman) and John Ternus will become CEO.

446: ‘Food and Beverage Director’, With MG Siegler

Who better to join the show to commemorate Apple’s 50th anniversary than John Siracusa?

445: ‘Apple at 50’, With John Siracusa

Christina Warren returns to the show to discuss Apple’s big month of product announcements — in particular, the iPhone 17e and MacBook Neo. And we pour one out for the Mac Pro.

444: ‘You’re Going to Have the Niggles’, With Christina Warren

Special guest David Pogue discusses his excellent, entertaining, and amazingly comprehensive new book, “Apple: The First 50 Years”.

443: ‘The Pogue Feature’, With David Pogue

Jason Snell returns to the show to discuss the 2025 Six Colors Apple Report Card, MacOS 26 Tahoe, Apple Creator Studio, along with what we expect/hope for in next week’s Apple product announcements.

442: ‘Bad Dates’, With Jason Snell

Adam Engst returns to the show to talk, in detail, about certain of the UI changes in iOS 26 and Apple's version 26 OSes overall. In particular, the new Unified view in the Phone app, and the Filter pop-up menu in both the Phone and Messages apps. Also: a shoutout to Balloon Help.

441: ‘Serious Opinionators’, With Adam Engst

Brent Simmons returns to the show. Topics include NetNewsWire 7, MacOS 26 Tahoe, and I guess, some other stuff.

440: ‘Flush a Radar’, With Brent Simmons

Daniel Jalkut returns to the show so we can both vent about MacOS 26 Tahoe.

439: ‘A Mitigated Disaster’, With Daniel Jalkut

A look back at Apple’s 2025, with special guest Rene Ritchie.

438: ‘2025 Year in Review’, With Rene Ritchie

Special guest Quinn Nelson returns for a two-part holiday spectacular: the iPad in the wake of iPadOS 26, and Apple's executive changes as Tim Cook seemingly nears the end of his time as CEO.

437: ‘A Naughty Citizen’, With Quinn Nelson

Special guest: Tyler Hayes. Topics include how to get a small phone today, which way foldables should fold, the state of Apple TV (including its new “sonic logo”), and some holiday gift gadget recommendations.

436: ‘Financial Boner’, With Tyler Hayes

Special guest Stephen Robles joins the show. Topics include indie media and YouTube, Shortcuts and automation, and the state of podcasting.

435: ‘Lincoln Bio Services’, With Stephen Robles

Special guest Dan Frommer returns to the show. Topics include the indie media business, the iPhone Pocket, the iPhone Air (including rumors about the second generation model), AI “personalities”, and five years of Apple Silicon Macs. Also, six years of Dan’s site, The New Consumer.

434: ‘Knee-Jerk Contrarian’, With Dan Frommer

Special guest Brian Mueller, developer of Carrot Weather, joins the show to commemorate the 10th anniversary of his utterly ridiculous but totally serious weather app.

433: ‘Meat Bags’, With Brian Mueller

Dan Moren returns to the show. Topics include Atlas, ChatGPT's new web browser (or anti-web browser) for the Mac; Apple's loss in a "landmark" regulatory lawsuit in the UK regarding App Store commission rates; multiple reports of poor sales for the iPhone Air; and Apple's M5 product announcements: MacBook Pro, iPads Pro, and Vision Pro.

432: ‘You and Frank Sinatra’, With Dan Moren

John Moltz returns to the show to talk about the iPhone 17 lineup: the iPhone 17 Pro and Pro Max, iPhone 17, and the no-number iPhone Air. Not one word about baseball, but some *Star Wars* talk may or may not have snuck in.

431: ‘Iconic Pig Lipstick’, With John Moltz

Special guest Andru Edwards joins the show. Topics include Google’s Pixel 10 event and the Pixel 10 family of devices, AI’s effect on computational photography, foldable phones, and some speculation on Apple’s September 9 “Awe Dropping” event.

430: ‘Ersatz PopSocket’, With Andru Edwards

Matthew Panzarino returns to the show. Topics include 007 logo creator Joe Caroff’s death at 103, Google’s weird “Made by Google” event hosted by Jimmy Fallon, the UK supposedly dropping its demand for an iCloud encryption backdoor, and Apple’s workaround for the Apple Watch blood oxygen sensor patent stalemate.

429: ‘Weird Turtle Fake Out’, With Matthew Panzarino

Special guest Louie Mantia joins the show to talk about Liquid Glass, the various OS 26 updates, and the worrisome state of Apple's UI design overall. Also: sandwiches.

428: ‘Michigan-Starred Fine Dining’, With Louie Mantia

Jason Snell returns to the show to talk about the early PC platform rivalries of the 1980s, iOS 26 leaks (and Apple suing YouTuber Jon Prosser), the various Apple OS 26 public betas and the state of Liquid Glass, and more. (Where by “more” I mean a little baseball and keyboard nerdery.)

427: ‘The Shift-2 Crowd’, With Jason Snell

Special guest David Smith returns to the show for a developer's perspective look at WWDC 2025.

426: ‘The Cutting Edge Latest Supermodel’, With David Smith

Chance Miller returns to the show to discuss the news and announcements from WWDC 2025.

425: ‘Through the Wall Like Kool-Aid Man’, With Chance Miller

Recorded in front of a live audience at The California Theatre in San Jose Tuesday evening, special guests Joanna Stern and Nilay Patel join me to discuss Apple’s announcements at WWDC 2025.

424: ‘Live From WWDC 2025’, With Joanna Stern and Nilay Patel

Patrick McGee joins the show to discuss his must-read new book, *Apple in China* --  one of the best books about Apple anyone has ever written.

423: ‘Sewing Machine Repair Shop’, With Patrick McGee

Stephen Hackett, proprietor of 512 Pixels and co-founder of Relay (purveyor of many fine podcasts), joins the show. Topics include: IO (or if you will, io), the new joint venture of OpenAI and Jony Ive’s LoveFrom; the sheer fantasy of “Made in America” iPhones; and Fortnite’s return to the US App Store.

422: ‘A Monkey on a Rock’, With Stephen Hackett

Craig Mod returns to the show to discuss his splendid new book, *Things Become Other Things*. Other topics include creating with AI tools (including programming), social media permanence vs. ephemerality, and more.

421: ‘The Ratchet of Flippancy’, With Craig Mod

Special guest Glenn Fleishman returns to the show for episode 420 on 4/20, but everyone’s sober, I swear. Topics include Trump’s dumb tariffs and Glenn’s smart new edition of his book “Six Centuries of Type & Printing”.

420: ‘The Best Hatched Plan’, With Glenn Fleishman

MG Siegler returns to the show to talk about the drama surrounding Siri and Apple Intelligence.

419: ‘Podcasting Technology Cadence’, With MG Siegler

Craig Hockenberry returns to the show. Topics include Apple’s new hardware this week — M3 iPad Airs, A16 regular iPads, M4 MacBook Airs, and the M4 Max and surprising M3 Ultra Mac Studios. And we go deep on The Iconfactory’s years-in-the-making new app, [Tapestry](https://usetapestry.com/) — a universal timeline for the Internet.

418: ‘Putting a Stink on the Letter X’, With Craig Hockenberry

Special guest: Paul Kafasis. Special topics: Siri/Super Bowl nonsense, “Gulf of Mexico/America” nonsense, the iPhone 16e gets announced, and a veritable Bond villain buys the rights to the James Bond movie franchise.

417: ‘Nothing Is Possible’, With Paul Kafasis

Kagi founder and CEO Vlad Prelovac joins the show to talk about the business of web search, the thinking behind Kagi’s own amazing search engine, and their upstart WebKit-based browser Orion.

416: ‘A Professional Internet User’, With Vlad Prelovac

Special guest Allen Pike joins the show to talk about the state of generative AI and how Apple Intelligence measures up (so far). Also: some speculation on Apple’s pending acquisition of the ever-difficult-to-pronounce Pixelmator.

415: ‘A Good Duck Butt’, With Allen Pike

Joanna Stern returns to the show to talk about our new best friends, AI chatbots, and I chime in with how the Voight-Kampff test got it all wrong.

414: ‘Annoying Friendliness’, With Joanna Stern

This again. Jiminy. Well, once more, let's talk *around* another election, and try, by doing so, to maybe express something *about* it.

413: ‘Holiday Party 2024’, With Merlin Mann

Dan Moren returns to the show to discuss this week’s introductions of the first M4 Macs: iMac, Mac Mini, and MacBook Pros.

412: ‘His Most Pro Shirt’, With Dan Moren

Tyler Stalman joins the show to discuss the iPhone 16 lineup’s cameras, and the state of iPhone photography.

411: ‘An Acoustic Nightmare’, With Tyler Stalman

Jason Snell returns to the show to discuss Apple's September product announcements, and Meta's Orion prototype AR glasses.

410: ‘Shipping vs. Shipping’, With Jason Snell

Nilay Patel returns to the show to consider the iPhones 16.

409: ‘The Dynamic Paradox’, With Nilay Patel

Special guest Taegan Goddard, longtime writer and founder of Political Wire, joins the show to talk about the past, present, and future of independent media.

408: ‘Good Enough to Be Pesky’, With Taegan Goddard

Chance Miller, ace reporter (and editor-in-chief) for 9to5Mac, joins the show to talk about the latest changes to Apple's DMA compliance plans with iOS, expectations for the September Apple event, and more.

407: ‘Pinkie Swear’, With Chance Miller

Christina Warren (a.k.a. “Mary Brown”) returns to the show. Topics include Apple’s new iOS 18.1 and MacOS 15.1 betas (featuring Apple Intelligence), a little reminiscing about Gil Amelio and Steve Jobs, and the bizarre saga of TUAW, resurrected as a zombie AI slopsite.

406: ‘Hock TUAW’, With Christina Warren

Special guest Hunter Hillegas, author of the excellent Vegas Mate app, joins the show to discuss euphemistic emoji, the CrowdStrike fiasco, and the closing of the iconic Mirage resort in Las Vegas.

405: ‘Chutes and Ladders’, With Hunter Hillegas

John Moltz returns to the show for a holiday-week look at the best of recent prestige streaming content, particularly Apple TV+. And, yes, a bit on the latest Apple/EU/DMA drama.

404: ‘Curiously Short Episodes’, With John Moltz

Quinn Nelson, renowned host of [Snazzy Labs](https://www.youtube.com/@snazzy), returns to the show to recap the highlights of WWDC: Apple Intelligence, platform updates, and the latest salvos from the EC regarding Apple’s compliance with the DMA.

403: ‘150 Million Calculator Apps’, With Quinn Nelson

Recorded in front of a live (and lively) audience at The California Theatre in San Jose Tuesday evening, special guests John Giannandrea, Craig Federighi, and Greg Joswiak join me to discuss Apple’s announcements at WWDC 2024.

402: ‘Live From WWDC 2024’, With John Giannandrea, Craig Federighi, and Greg Joswiak

Craig Hockenberry returns to the show. Topics include the upcoming Daylight DC-1 monochrome “e-paper” tablet, more thoughts on the new iPad Pros, and what we expect/hope for from Apple at WWDC. Also: a one-button keyboard.

401: ‘Chockdingus’, With Craig Hockenberry

Special guest M.G. Siegler returns to the show to talk about the new iPad Pros, the iPadOS/MacOS functional gulf, the OpenAI/Scarlett Johansson controversy, and M.G.'s new blog Spyglass.

400: ‘Canadian Girlfriend Vibes’, With M.G. Siegler

Federico Viticci returns to the show to discuss MacStories’s 15th anniversary, Apple’s upcoming “Let Loose” keynote for new iPad hardware, and more.

399: ‘I Decapitated the MacBook Air’, With Federico Viticci

The one and only John Moltz returns to the show to talk about the relative dearth of original content for Vision Pro, WWDC rumors and guesses, and, yes, a wee bit about Apple's regulatory/antitrust tribulations.

398: ‘You’ve Never Seen Email Like This Before’, With John Moltz

Jason Snell returns to the show to talk about the DOJ’s antitrust lawsuit against Apple. And sports gambling.

397: ‘Less Space Than a Nomad? Lame’, With Jason Snell

Special guest David Barnard joins the show. Topics include the App Store — past, present, and post-DMA future — and the excellent new update to his app Weather Up.

396: ‘The Essence of Stealing’, With David Barnard

Adam Lisagor returns to the show to discuss, while wearing, Apple Vision Pro.

395: ‘I’m a Real-World Man’, With Adam Lisagor

Matthew Panzarino -- proprietor of the excellent new website/newsletter [The Obsessor](https://www.theobsessor.com/) -- returns to the show to talk about -- what else? -- the Vision Pro.

394: ‘An Impossible Balcony’, With Matthew Panzarino

Marco Arment returns to the show. Topics include the Apple-Masimo patent dispute over Apple Watch blood oxygen sensors, the new External Payment Links entitlement for the App Store, and more.

393: ‘An Asterisk on the Bento Box’, With Marco Arment

Apple’s 2023 year in review, with Casey Liss.

392: ‘Halos and Harps’, With Casey Liss

Special holiday guest: John Siracusa. Special holiday topics: the Apple/Masimo patent dispute over the blood oxygen sensors in Apple Watches, the ongoing Beeper Mini/iMessage saga, iOS 17.3’s upcoming Stolen Device Protection feature, Apple’s new Journal app. Also, an ode to big-ass tower desktops.

391: ‘Error -37’, With John Siracusa

Nilay Patel returns to the show. Topics include the iPhones 15, journalism in the age of AI, and what it’s like to have Barack Obama on your podcast.

390: ‘The Blurry Edge of Acceptable’, With Nilay Patel

Special guest Gabe Rivera, founder of the indispensable news aggregator Techmeme, joins the show to talk about the state of news and social media.

389: ‘Two-Legged Stool’, With Gabe Rivera

Christina Warren joins the show to talk about Apple’s “Scary Fast” event, introducing the new M3 MacBook Pros and 24-inch iMac.

388: ‘What the Actual’, With Christina Warren

Special guests Sebastiaan de With and Ben Sandofsky, co-founders of Lux, join the show to talk about their apps (Halide, Spectre, and Orion) and speculate about next week’s “Scary Fast” Apple event.

387: ‘Are There Ever Too Many Love Songs?’, With Sebastiaan de With and Ben Sandofsky

Special guest John Moltz joins the show to discuss the various iPhone 15 “-gates”, rumors of Jony Ive working with OpenAI on an “AI device”, and more.

386: ‘Gate Number Two’, With John Moltz

Matthew Panzarino returns to the show to talk about the new iPhones 15.

385: ‘Who’s Heef?’, With Matthew Panzarino

Flexibits co-founder Michael Simmons returns to the show to talk about his experience at Apple’s developer lab for Vision Pro, and his enthusiasm for the future of spatial computing.

384: ‘Pleading the Fifth’, With Michael Simmons

Jason Snell, come on down. You’re the next contestent on The Talk Show. Special topics: John Warnock and Adobe, Disney and Apple, the iMac’s 25th anniversary, and more.

383: ‘A Photocopy of a Fax’, With Jason Snell

Craig Hockenberry, the special guest with the special fleshy palms, returns to the show. Topics include Twitter/X, foldable phones, and our favorite features in iOS 17 now that it’s in public beta.

382: ‘What’s Happening‽’, With Craig Hockenberry

Joanna Stern returns to the show. Topics include the launch of Threads, Apple’s Vision Pro, and iPhone/iCloud device security. Also, some accidental car talk.

381: ‘Tape Deck Dongle’, With Joanna Stern

Matthew Panzarino returns to the show for a post-WWDC discussion about Vision Pro and VisionOS.

380: ‘The M Is for Magnificent’, With Matthew Panzarino

Christian Selig, developer of the excellent apps Apollo and Pixel Pals, joins the show to talk about Reddit's Twitter-fication, along with highlights from WWDC 2023.

379: ‘An Extra Kick in the Nuts’, With Christian Selig

Back in San Jose's historic California Theatre for the first time since 2019, special guests John Ternus, Mike Rockwell, Craig Federighi, and Greg Joswiak join me to discuss the news and announcements from WWDC 2023.

378: ‘Live From WWDC 2023’, With John Ternus, Mike Rockwell, Craig Federighi, and Greg Joswiak

Guy English returns to the show to talk about the live show from WWDC, Mac Pros past and future, Marathon and Mac gaming, and Apple’s seemingly imminent XR headset. And definitely *not* to talk about *Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker*.

377: ‘guyenglish.zip’, With Guy English

Neil Jhaveri, founder and lead developer of Mimestream, the terrific new native Mac email client for Gmail, joins the show to talk about email, Mac apps, and indie software development.

376: ‘One True HIG’, With Neil Jhaveri

Special guest: Jason Snell. Topics: Headset, headseat, headset. And no baseball talk other than how games might look in VR. Also: Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro for iPad, and GM's dumb decision to drop CarPlay.

375: ‘No False Humidity’, With Jason Snell

John Moltz, ace reporter from The Daily Planet, returns to the show. Topics include Apple pushing ads through its own built-in apps, car shopping, and the burgeoning Twitter alternative Bluesky.

374: ‘The Paul McCartney of Car Salesmen’, With John Moltz

Special guest Quinn Nelson joins the show to talk about Apple’s rumored AR/VR headset, Apple silicon, and more.

373: ‘This Guy Reads a Lot Better’, With Quinn Nelson

Rene Ritchie returns to the show to discuss generative AI (and what Apple might soon do with it), iPhone passcodes and iCloud device security, HBO Max turning into just plain Max, and *Make Something Wonderful* — one more thing from Steve Jobs.

372: ‘$8 Billion in Late Fees’, With Rene Ritchie

Daniel Jalkut returns to the show to talk about AI chat, new emoji, and Apple Music Classical.

371: ‘The Skin of Your Pants’, With Daniel Jalkut

Jason Kottke returns to the show to celebrate the 25th anniversary of Kottke.org.

370: ‘Fine Hypertext Products’, With Jason Kottke

Marco Arment returns to the show to discuss some genuinely startling revelations regarding iPhone and Apple ID security; the new HomePod 2; and our favorite electric vehicle maker. Also: coffee.

369: ‘18-Hour Bombing Mission’, With Marco Arment

Special guest Dan Moren joins the show to talk about the new M2 MacBook Pros and Mac Minis, the state of Mac gaming, and the triumphant return of the full-sized HomePod.

368: ‘Tweeter and the Monkey Man’, With Dan Moren

Craig Hockenberry returns to the show to talk about the demise of third-party Twitter clients, the overall Twitter shitshow, touchscreens on the Mac, and the perils of autocorrect when you have a clever username.

367: ‘Slow-Moving Hurricane’, With Craig Hockenberry

Glenn Fleishman returns to the show to talk about reported setbacks in Apple's silicon division, the LastPass vault leak and password management, and the frontiers of social networking. Also, the joys of modern air travel during the holidays.

366: ‘Measure Seven Times, Cut Once’, With Glenn Fleishman

Rene Ritchie returns to the show to talk about recent news (Twitter, Freeform, iCloud Advanced Data Protection, the EU’s new Digital Markets Act) and Apple’s 2022 year in review.

365: ‘Permanent September’, With Rene Ritchie

Friend of the show John Moltz returns to talk about Elon Musk steering Twitter into a multi-issue spat with Apple, Mastodon, and some streaming TV recommendations.

364: ‘Spooky Hole’, With John Moltz

Christina Warren returns to the show to talk about the drama at Disney, tumult at Twitter, and how the hell to score Taylor Swift tickets.

363: ‘Deliberately Churned’, With Christina Warren

Special guest: Anil Dash. A little about last week’s U.S. midterm elections, and a lot about what’s going on at Twitter under Elon Musk.

362: ‘Grand Scale Foot-Shooting’, With Anil Dash

Federico Viticci returns to the show to talk about iPads, Stage Manager, and Apple’s ill-considered foray into expanding ads in the App Store.

361: ‘A Fit of Pique’, With Federico Viticci

Jason Snell returns to the show to talk about the new 10th-gen iPad and M2 iPads Pro.

360: ‘Neither Fish Nor Fowl’, With Jason Snell

Merlin Mann returns to the show to talk about AI image generation (along with a few asides).

359: ‘Big Booger Came After You’, With Merlin Mann

Paul Kafasis returns to the show to talk about the iPhone 14 Pro, Apple Watch Ultra, AirPods Pro, and Rogue Amoeba’s 20th anniversary.

358: ‘Double-Digit Domains’, With Paul Kafasis

Nilay Patel returns to the show to talk about Apple’s “Far Out” event, the iPhones 14, and The Verge’s redesign.

357: ‘Fluent Cupertinoese’, With Nilay Patel

Special guest Rosemary Orchard joins the show to talk about her new book, “Take Control of Shortcuts”, and the state of automation on iOS and MacOS.