Madonna on Madame X, social media, motherhood and the moment that changed her life

In this very special, world exclusive podcast, Dan sits down with the Queen of Pop herself, Madonna. To mark the release of Madame X, one of the boldest and most controversial albums of her four-decade career, she opens up about the traumatic rape that shaped her life, the toxic effect of social media, the pressure faced by her children to emulate her success and her thoughts on running for US president. Plus, there's a very special Madonna edition of The Five.

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