Peter Hitchens is a fascinating right-winger whose views are sometimes hard to pin down. He tells me why he didn't take part in the EU referendum, why he backed 'Norway Plus', why he's a fan of Bernie Sanders - and why he opposes lockdown. That part gets heated.
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