The Owen Jones Podcast

30. Rutger Bregman on human nature, COVID, Biden, climate emergency and Davos

Rutger Bregman is a famed Dutch historian and writer, whose celebrated books include Utopia for Realists and Humankind. In this interview, we talk about whether the pandemic will change society, on Biden and the Democrats, about ideas like the 4 day week and basic income, the climate emergency, his viral speech at Davos, and how we build a different world. Help us take on the right-wing media here: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqbjhzOGxwdmo3bWNUU3lDNEhwcEczdWhKel80QXxBQ3Jtc0tubWJyd214RDBnWVhBUnlNWjd6OEdVaXA1U2dDYXA3emVseGVrODZhTGlDVkdUazFDOC1SNFg1NlYxVG5mX2hTTjBxS1VGWXdEZlhYYWo0VFlvTDI5RFE2dHFGVkVrdHNwUXR4QnpnMDhtN2FCRVI5SQ&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fpatreon.com%2Fowenjones84" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://patreon.com/owenjones84</a>​Support this show <a href="http://supporter.acast.com/the-owen-jones-podcast" rel="payment" target="_blank">http://supporter.acast.com/the-owen-jones-podcast</a>. Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" style="color:grey;" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Owen Jones, journalist, author of Chavs and The Establishment, or "that left-wing idiot off the telly", is fed up with the establishment media. After all, it punches down, not up, blames minorities for all the problems in society, and, let's face it, often just parrots the government line. So this podcast is offering something different: speaking truth to power, giving the marginalised a voice, offering hope - and having a laugh along the way. From Michael Sheen to Judith Butler, Prof. Devi Sridhar to Noam Chomsky, Peter Hitchens to Chelsea Manning and Gary Younge to Stewart Lee, the interviewees couldn't be more eclectic. Expect documentaries, too, exposing injustice and going to enemy territory - and discussions with experts on everything from COVID dreams about the pandemic to the history of US-backed coups. We'll learn a lot - but above all else, have our optimism in a better world rebooted. Support this show <a href="http://supporter.acast.com/the-owen-jones-podcast" rel="payment" target="_blank">http://supporter.acast.com/the-owen-jones-podcast</a>. Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" style="color:grey;" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.