The Line Between Independence and Insurrection

The Line Between Independence and Insurrection

By WNYC Studios

Notes from America

Monday, 4 July

Decoding the Jan. 6th Insurrection – what we should have learned from the past and what we must remember for the future.

This Independence Day weekend, host Kai Wright is joined by Andrea Bernstein and Ilya Marritz, who previously hosted Trump Inc. They discuss their new 8-part podcast series, Will Be Wild, which examines the forces that led to the January 6 Insurrection and what comes next. 

Companion listening for this episode:

Can America Be Redeemed? (7/5/2021)

Eddie Glaude and Imani Perry consider the question through the work of James Baldwin and Richard Wright. Plus: How our country could enter a period of “post-traumatic growth.”

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