The Wave Returns to the Ocean (Plus: What Are Michelle Buteau and Jordan Carlos Into?)

One of the last scenes from the TV show The Good Place finds its way into a real-life eulogy. And we hear from series creator Michael Schur about the process of writing it, the process of grieving, and why death doesn't always have to be a bad thing. We also chat with comedians and Adulting podcast co-hosts Michelle Buteau and Jordan Carlos about how Zocdoc is the Hinge of medical professionals. And we ask them if they are into Ariana DeBose's performance at the BAFTAs. Send us your culturegeist. What specific thing in the culture has haunted you for days, weeks, or even years? And why? Send us a short voice memo at intoit@vulture.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices