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Family Mealworms with Patrick Redford

Family Mealworms with Patrick Redford

By Normal Gossip

Friend of the show and fellow Defector comrade Patrick Redford is on the public feed for the first time! This week, we're talking about ~intentional living communities and their alternative sources of protein.

Follow Patrick on IG @patrickredford

PSA: This is the season four FINALE! We're going to take a quick break to tour around the country (see you there?!) and then we'll be back for season 5.

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