Popcast

Popcast (Deluxe): Lizzo, Travis Scott and the Limits of Persona

What can pop stars get away with? Plus: the deaths of Sinead O’Connor and Angus Cloud. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and
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The Popcast is hosted by Jon Caramanica, a pop music critic for The New York Times. It covers the latest in popular music criticism, trends and news. 

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