Little Gold Men by Vanity Fair

Interview: Jacqueline West and Julie O'Keefe (Killers of the Flower Moon) and Cynthia Erivo (Drift)

First, Rebecca Ford talks to the two costume designers of Killers of the Flower Moon, who might have seemed like an unlikely duo — West, a veteran Hollywood costume designer, and O'Keefe, a member of the Osage Nation and experienced product manager — but teamed up to create some of the year's most stunning costumes. Then, David Canfield talks to Cynthia Erivo about the big leaps she took to make Drift, a moving independent film in which she stars as a Liberian refugee and also produces. Follow us on <a href="https://twitter.com/vfawardsinsider">Twitter</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/vfawardsinsider/">Instagram</a> @vfawardsinsiderEmail us at <a href="mailto:littlegoldmen@vf.com">littlegoldmen@vf.com</a>Follow our hosts: <a href="https://twitter.com/kateyrich">@kateyrich</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/rilaws">@rilaws</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/beccamford">@beccamford</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/davidcanfield97">@davidcanfield97 </a>Our editor and producer is Brett Fuchs.

Little Gold Men is the inside story of Hollywood, from awards shows and red-carpet premieres to the hard work and whisper campaigns that get people there. Weekly episodes feature obsessive, expert conversations about the best of television and film, with special guest appearances from stars, creators, and critics. LGM also dives deep into Oscar history, and offers insight into all the other awards that make up Hollywood’s continual dash toward glitz and glory. For more on Little Gold Men, visit vanityfair.com/podcast/little-gold-men