In this episode I am joined by the politician Sajid Javid.
The former Health and Home Secretary talks frankly about a childhood blighted by racism, his ‘survivor’s guilt’ after his older brother Tariq took his life and the extraordinary conversation with Prime Minister Boris Johnson that led him to quit as Chancellor.
A fascinating, revealing conversation with a man who has a claim to the title Secretary of State For Crisis.
*DISCLAIMER – This episode includes a discussion about racism and includes words which some may find offensive.