PRETEND

1815: Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 15

We continue our investigation into Charles Ray Vines and his potential 
involvement in the Melissa Witt murder. In this episode, we track down 
Vines’ former neighbor and friend, Thomas Seymour. Seymour claims that 
he spoke with Vines just before Vines was heading to the bowling alley 
to meet a girl named Melissa. What other information does Seymour have 
that could shed light on this 30-year-old mystery?
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PRETEND is an investigative true crime podcast about real people who lie for a living — con artists, scammers, and the victims caught in their web.

Hosted by journalist Javier Leiva, PRETEND exposes the human psychology behind deception and fraud. Each episode follows a real case of manipulation — from financial scams and Ponzi schemes to digital hoaxes and emotional cons.



PRETEND explains how and why deception works without shaming victims, combining ethical journalism with cinematic storytelling. 



Featured in lists of the best podcasts about con artists and scams, PRETEND investigates crimes of persuasion, trust, and betrayal. New episodes drop regularly with stories that reveal how manipulation shapes modern life, both online and off.



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