Politics: Where Next?

Politics: Where Next?

By Channel 4 News

In these tumultuous political times, does anyone know where it's all heading? Join Channel 4 News' Political Editor Gary Gibbon and guests as they thrash out the possibilities.


Coronavirus: The Politics of Pandemics

This week, we discuss COVID-19 and ask: how it will change our politics. Gary chats to Matthew Taylor, former Head of Policy for Number 10 under Tony Blair and now Chief Executive of the Royal Society of Arts, and Danny Finkelstein, columnist for The Times and a Tory peer.
06/03/2035m 42s

Britain talks post-Brexit trade with the EU

This week we are looking at the negotiations for the new relationship with Europe as we now have the opening positions of both sides.   As the British document was published on Thursday, Gary Gibbon caught up with Georgina Wright of the Institute for Government and Same Lowe of the Centre for European Reform to wade through the documents and tell us what they say about the chance of a deal and the shape of a deal. Producer: Rachel Evans
28/02/2035m 33s

What will post-Brexit immigration look like?

This week, after decades of signing up to the EU policy of free movement of people, Boris Johnson announced Britain will halt low-paid immigration with just a few exceptions at the margins  - and he'll make high-skilled immigration a little easier if you're outside the EU.   The day after the announcement, Gary spoke to Sunder Katwala, director of the think tank British Future, which looks at migration and identity issues, and Eric Kaufmann, Professor of politics at Birkbeck College at University of London, and author of the book, 'Whiteshift'.
21/02/2038m 9s

Number 10 vs the Treasury?

This week, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, Sajid Javid resigned.   A few hours after the announcement, Gary sat down with Lord Nick Macpherson, who ran the Treasury as its Permanent Secretary for 11 years under Labour, the Tories and the Coalition.   He was also joined by Torsten Bell, Chief Executive of the Resolution Foundation, who was once a Treasury civil servant himself and then special adviser to Alistair Darling when he was Chancellor.   Producer: Rachel Evans
14/02/2035m 7s

What will post-Brexit Ireland look like?

This week Gary sits down with two guests on the eve of the Irish general election.   He speaks to Denis Staunton of the Irish Times and Patrick Maguire of the New Statesman to discuss the Sinn Féin surge and what this election means for Brexit trade talks and for a united Ireland.   Producer: Rachel Evans
07/02/2029m 57s

Farage and Brexit: The Story

With Brexit happening we've spoken to its godfather - Nigel Farage - to ask about the journey that got us here.   We took him to a small viewing cinema in London to show him video clips from the news stories that marked our journey to Brexit and his role in it.
31/01/2038m 9s

How will Britain and Europe build a new relationship after Brexit?

This week we are discussing what happens next on Brexit and what is in store for our new relationship with Europe.   Gary talks to Georgina Wright from The Institute for Government and Sam Lowe of the Centre for European Reform. 
24/01/2038m 50s

Who will lead the Labour Party?

As the Labour leadership contest gets motoring we look at who is likely to win it and what are the lessons of Jeremy Corbyn's leadership.   Gary talks to Sienna Rodgers, editor of the Labour List and Paul Mason, left-wing commentator and author. 
17/01/2039m 11s

Will the government take back control?

This week, a new year, a new government - what do we make of it so far? Where is Boris Johnson heading? Will this feel like a revolution or nothing of the sort? Joining Gary to discuss that is Robert Colvile, Director of the Centre for Policy Studies, who helped write the Tory manifesto for the last general election and Rachel Sylvester, Times columnist and distinguished political commentator.  Producer: Rachel Evans
10/01/2037m 49s

Is the Labour Party written off?

The election done, what is next for the politically dispossessed?    This week Gary talks to Pat McFadden, who worked for Tony Blair in Downing street and has been MP for Wolverhampton since 2005.   He is joined by Rory Stewart who was thrown out of the Tory Party by Boris Johnson and is now running for Mayor of London as an Independent.   They discuss their reactions to election result, whether the Labour Party can recover from their defeat and what this means for the question of Scottish independence. 
20/12/1936m 34s

What happens to party politics after this election?

Mere days away from the general election, Gary Gibbon sits down with the political editor of the Daily Mirror, Pippa Crerar, and by James Kirkup, director of the Social Market Foundation, and before that a senior journalist at The Telegraph.
06/12/1935m 26s

What happens after a Brexit election?

This week Gary speaks to Stephen Bush, the Political Editor of the New Statesman and Tory Peer Danny Finkelstein. They talk to Gary about the party manifestos, who is ahead of the race and what comes after the election.
29/11/1935m 22s

Who's most likely to win the UK general election?

Veteran political analyst Professor John Curtice and Professor Matthew Goodwin of the University of Kent tell Gary Gibbon their predictions for this general election. Curtice is also a senior fellow of the UK in a Changing Europe research unit, where we sit down to record this week's podcast.
15/11/1937m 59s

Brexit: Tearing the Tories Apart?

Ken Clarke and Iain Duncan Smith, two of the most senior, long standing members of the Tory Party, discuss the state of the Conservatives.  Clarke had the whip withdrawn in September after he voted against the government.    A passionate opponent of Brexit and a life-long Europhile Clarke discusses how Brexit and Europe is eating away at his party with his long-standing colleague and former Conservative leader Iain Duncan Smith - a vocal proponent of leaving the EU. 
01/11/1937m 9s

A Christmas Election?

This week we reassembled our regular duo - Labour MP Jess Phillips and the Independent MP, formerly a Conservative minister, Nick Boles.   We spoke on Thursday as cabinet members were gathering in Number 10 to discuss strategy, they hadn't yet announced their offer to Labour - agree to a new timetable for the Brexit bill but also agree to a general election on December 12th. 
25/10/1935m 48s

What can we expect from a Brexit general election?

This week we speak to two people who have worked closely on previous elections as we look to the general election looming in front of us.   We're joined by Patrick Heneghan, former Head of Campaigns for the Labour Party, who worked on five general elections and James Johnson, who for three years was Theresa May's polling strategist inside Number 10. 
18/10/1934m 48s

What does history tell us about Brexit?

This week we’re joined by Charles Moore, biographer of Margaret Thatcher - his third and final volume - Herself Alone -  is just published. And Professor David Edgerton from Kings college London, author of The Rise and Fall of the British Nation.
11/10/1930m 27s

Will Boris Johnson's Brexit plan fly?

Boris Johnson has unveiled his proposal for a deal, but how has it gone down in the EU?   In conversation with Gary this week are Peter Foster, Europe Editor of the Daily Telegraph - the man who first brought you a leak of the deal - and James Kirkup, director for the Social Market Foundation, but before that writing about politics at The Telegraph.   Subscribe to Politics: Where Next? for more in-depth discussion every Friday.   Recorded: Thursday 3rd October.
04/10/1935m 32s

Brexit: Parliament vs the people?

While the storm rages over politicians' use of language, Gary is joined by Labour's Jess Phillips and the independent MP Nick Boles for a civilised chat about the state of the nation.
27/09/1938m 41s

How likely is a Brexit deal?

Deal or No Deal? Boris Johnson's search for a Brexit deal has intensified. Government insiders say parliament blocking the early election and passing a bill that tries to stop a no-deal Brexit has forced the government to throw itself into pursuing a last-minute compromise.   This week we talk to Charles Grant of the Centre for European Reform - one of the best connected experts on all matters EU -  and to Denis Staunton, the London Editor of the Irish Times.
20/09/1936m 25s

Has Brexit broken politics forever?

This week we talk to two MPs elected as Tories at the last election -Phillip Lee and Damian Green. However Phillip Lee is now a Lib Dem. Last week, he showed his displeasure with the direction of the government by crossing the floor of the house to join the Lib Dems while Boris Johnson was speaking in the Commons. Damian Green is staying put with the Conservatives but has written to the Prime Minister as the head of the centre ground 'One Nation' group of MPs - objecting to the purge of 21 Tories thrown out of the party last week for voting against a no-deal Brexit.  We met in a shut down House of Commons in Phillip Lee's parliamentary office.
13/09/1927m 46s

Brexit: can we trust politicians to do what’s right for the country?

What is going to happen on Monday? Will there be an election? Are we leaving the EU on the 31st? This week we talk to John McTernan - the political strategist and a downing street aide to Tony Blair -and Adrian Wooldridge, the political editor of The Economist magazine. We met just as Boris Johnson's brother Jo announced he couldn’t serve in his brother's government any more - and couldn't be a Conservative MP either.
06/09/1932m 14s

No-deal? Extension? Election? - Boris Johnson's Brexit plan

As Boris Johnson moves into number 10, Francis Elliott (Political Editor, The Times) and Peter Foster (Europe Editor, The Daily Telegraph) thrash out the possibilities for what his Brexit plan might really entail. Subscribe to Politics: Where Next? for more in-depth discussions every Friday.
26/07/1930m 26s

Boris Johnson vs Jeremy Corbyn - where next for Brexit Britain?

With Boris Johnson looking like the favourite to win the Tory leadership contest and become Prime Minister, political commentators Isabel Hardman (The Spectator) and Rafael Behr (The Guardian) join Gary Gibbon to chat about what a Johnson premiership might look like. Subscribe to Politics: Where Next? for more in-depth discussion every Friday.    
19/07/1940m 21s

The Powell Brothers: Siblings on advising Thatcher and Blair, Brexit and the leaked memos

In this week’s podcast we bring together two brothers - Charles Powell and Jonathan Powell. Charles Powell, Lord Powell, advised Margaret Thatcher on foreign policy from 1983 to the end of her premiership. Seven years after he'd left Number 10  his younger brother Jonathan Powell moved in, as Chief of Staff to Tony Blair. Both men still travel the world, Charles Powell for business and Jonathan Powell mediating on conflicts. Gary sat down with them in the aftermath of the leaked memos home from the British Ambassador in Washington.
09/07/1933m 2s

What Rory Did Next...

For this week's podcast episode, Gary Gibbon talks to Rory Stewart MP, Secretary of State for International Development, on his dynamic Tory leadership campaign, supporting Jeremy Hunt and whether he'll ever trust a word Boris Johnson says.
28/06/1932m 5s

Who is the real Boris Johnson?

It's Boris Johnson versus Jeremy Hunt in the race to be Prime Minister. For this week's podcast episode, Gary Gibbon talks to Boris biographers Sonia Purnell and Andrew Gimson about what we should all expect from the bookies' favourite.  Subscribe to Politics: Where Next? for more in-depth discussion every Friday.     
21/06/1934m 51s

Would Boris Johnson turn the Conservatives into a 'Brexit party?'

James Kirkup and Professor Tim Bale discuss the Conservative leadership race, Boris Johnson’s political evolution - and whether the Tory’s want to become ‘The Brexit Party’.
14/06/1936m 21s

A Trump trade deal?

What did Gideon Rachman of the Financial Times and Professor John Bew - biographer of Attlee make of the week when President Trump came to town? Subscribe to Politics: Where Next? for more in-depth discussions every Friday.
07/06/1938m 1s

After May, Boris? No Deal?

Stephen Bush, political editor of the New Statesman magazine and Paul Goodman, editor of the influential political website, Conservative Home, share their thoughts on what we're in for in the next few months. 
24/05/1930m 30s

Justice Secretary warns leadership contenders: lurch right and we split

In Gary Gibbon’s latest Politics: Where Next podcast, he talks to David Gauke MP, Secretary of State for Justice, on Brexit, where Boris Johnson may take the Tory Party and his U-turn nationalising management of offenders. We apologise for the problem with Gary's microphone. 
17/05/1935m 49s

'Britain crying out for leadership': Will the two big parties survive?

Chris Wilkins, Theresa May's former Head of Strategy at Number 10 and Matthew Taylor, Head of the Policy Unit for Tony Blair discuss whether the two big political parties are going to be able to survive the current political crisis.
10/05/1940m 27s

Labour's Brexit Battle

Shadow Minister for the Cabinet Office, Jon Trickett talks to Gary Gibbon about the plausibility of a Labour-Conservative deal, the prospect of a second referendum and how Brexit is really affecting his Yorkshire constituents.   
03/05/1928m 51s

Tech's impact on politics post-Brexit: a darker world or a force for good?

This week's podcast takes a step back from the never-ending Brexit battles to look at where new technologies are taking politics here and across the world.  Jamie Susskind is the author of ‘Future Politics’, which looks at the impact of tech on our politics. Giuliano de Empoli is the author of ‘Engineers of Chaos’, which discusses the populist masterminds who have bent technology to their own benefit in Europe and beyond. Subscribe for more episodes every Friday. We're taking a break for Easter next week, but will be back the week after. 
12/04/1939m 29s

The UK’s ‘man at the EU’ on the Brexit saga - and the threat of no deal

In Gary Gibbon’s latest Politics: Where Next podcast, he talks to Sir Ivan Rogers - formerly our man at the EU. He was the British diplomatic service’s top EU expert - let go effectively by Theresa May just as the Brexit negotiations were getting under way. Sir Ivan Rogers served as the UK Representative to the EU under David Cameron and Theresa May. He resigned in January 2017 - it’s been said he sensed his advice wasn't wanted.
05/04/1932m 41s

How to solve the Brexit hangover? - with Ken Clarke

Speaking ahead of Friday's vote, Father of the House of Commons Ken Clarke discusses his customs union amendment and where next for the Government and Tory party. Subscribe for more episodes every Friday. Producer: Sarah Gough.
29/03/1930m 45s

‘The Brexit Revolution’ - with MPs Tom Tugendhat and Lisa Nandy

Conservative Tom Tugendhat and Labour’s Lisa Nandy discuss the revolutionary qualities of Brexit - and how it could change the UK’s political system forever. 
22/03/1940m 53s

Jess Phillips and Nick Boles talk hot coals and Brextension

In the week of one meaningful vote and two indicative votes, Jess Phillips and Nick Boles get together with Gary Gibbon for the first time after *that* "irresistible" comment to bash out what might be happening with Brexit. Subscribe to Politics: Where Next? for new episodes every Friday. Producer: Sarah Gough.
15/03/1937m 46s

Brexit vs the world: Is Britain too self-obsessed?

As the Brexit process treads water, we've decided to stand back and ask: does Brexit matter in the big scheme of things? Is it virtually irrelevant beside the forces that are shaping our changing world? Gary chats to Peter Frankopan, Oxford professor of global history and author of the best-selling The Silk Roads and The New Silk Roads.   Subscribe to Politics: Where Next? for new episodes every Friday.   Producer: Sarah Gough
08/03/1936m 23s

Theresa May’s former joint chief of staff Nick Timothy on Brexit and his alleged ‘reign of terror'

In his first broadcast interview since losing his job Nick Timothy - Theresa May’s former joint chief of staff - discusses Brexit, his alleged ‘reign of terror’ - and the mistakes around the 2017 snap election that ultimately cost him his job.
01/03/1935m 29s

Will defecting MPs fall or fly?

Lib Dem leader Sir Vince Cable and godfather of New Labour Lord Mandelson discuss the new Independent Group - and whether it can possibly be a success.
22/02/1931m 4s

What does the world think of Brexit Britain?

From Continental Europe to the USA - Gary Gibbon and his guests discuss the international view of Brexit - and what our imminent departure from the EU could mean for how the world sees Britain for years to come. This week Gary is joined by two experts in foreign policy: Hans Kundnani, a Senior Research Fellow at Chatham House - and Jeremy Shapiro, a Research Director at the European Council on Foreign Relations, and a former State Department aide to Barack Obama.
15/02/1935m 1s

Will there be a new political party in Britain after Brexit?

Two former Number 10 advisers chat to Gary Gibbon about the likelihood of a new centrist party, what Brexit tells us about voter behaviour and where that will take our politics. Pollster Andrew Cooper worked on two referendums with varying success - for Remain in 2016 and more successfully for the NO campaign in Scotland's referendum in 2014. Gavin Kelly worked for Gordon Brown at the Treasury and at Number 10 - he's now Chief Executive of the Resolution Trust. Subscribe to Politics: Where Next? for new episodes every Friday.  
08/02/1930m 8s

Inside David Davis' office - with Caroline Flint

After Theresa May's change of direction on the withdrawal agreement, Gary takes Labour MP Caroline Flint up a winding staircase in Parliament to find the hidden away office of former Brexit Secretary David Davis. 
01/02/1937m 58s

The Labour Party: Brexit and into government - with Len McCluskey

Union leaders headed into Number 10 this week as Theresa May's cross-party Brexit talks continued. Gary grabbed half an hour with the man of the moment Len McCluskey and picked his brains over Labour's Brexit strategy and what a Corbyn government could look like.
25/01/1931m 54s

Salvaging or squandering Brexit

Extraordinary times. Two votes this week, one question remains: where next for Brexit? Gary talks to former Tory minister George Bridges in his first long-form interview since standing down at the snap election, and is expecting former Brexit secretary David Davis to pop in for a chat, if he can wriggle free from the Prime Minister's office. Subscribe to Politics: Where Next? for more episodes every Friday. Leave us a rating and a review if you're enjoying the podcast.  
18/01/1927m 0s

Brexit: Is it really an uncivil war?

Labour MP Liz Kendall and former Conservative Culture Secretary Ed Vaizey talk to Gary for this week's episode about whether cross-party unity will influence how Brexit unfolds after next week's vote. We apologise for slight technical issue with Gary's microphone in this episode.
11/01/1936m 25s

A very Brexit Christmas

With Parliament descending to farce this week, the Christmas period is a welcome chance to reflect and assess where Theresa May's Brexit project is heading. For this week's episode Gary Gibbon talks to former Tory minister David Willetts and Stewart Wood, who was an adviser and shadow minister under Ed Miliband. Producer: Sarah Gough.
21/12/1836m 55s

Brexit: Has anything changed?

We speak to Jess Philips, Labour MP for Birmingham Yardley - who thinks a second referendum is the way ahead and Nick Boles - Tory MP for Grantham and Stamford in Lincolnshire. He thinks the answer to the Brexit conundrum is Norway Plus - where we stay in the single market and the customs union.
14/12/1837m 35s

Will our politics be transformed by Brexit?

Debates on the Brexit withdrawal agreement have begun and with the meaningful vote on Theresa May's deal on the horizon, Gary talks to pro-Leave professor Robert Tombs about where the future of our party politics could be heading.
07/12/1833m 40s

How Brexit is making history

As Theresa May heads off, quite inconveniently, to the G20 Summit in Buenos Aires, the Commons vote on her Brexit deal looms ever closer. Gary asks Lord Peter Hennessy - venerated professor of post-war history - how he thinks this period of political and economic uncertainty will be written up in the history books. Subscribe to Politics: Where Next? for more political discussion every Friday. Producer: Sarah Gough.
30/11/1831m 24s

Future relations with the EU

In the week we finally saw the declaration on Britain's future relationship with the EU post-Brexit, we look at what that document tells us.  New episodes are available every Friday.  Producer: Jack Parkes
23/11/1833m 11s

Can May survive Brexit chaos?

Amid resignations and a potential vote of no confidence in the Prime Minister, where next for Westminster? What are the chances of getting Theresa May's Brexit deal through Parliament and what could happen if it doesn't? A second referendum? A general election? A renegotiation? No deal? Political scientist Professor Philip Cowley and UK correspondent to German newspaper Die Welt Stefanie Bolzen chat to Gary Gibbon about all the potential scenarios. Producer: Sarah Gough
15/11/1835m 0s


How do you deal with rising populism? That was the dominant debate in the corridors at the EPP Summit in Helsinki this week. As populist movements continue to grow in Europe and beyond, what is motivating them and where is it all heading? In conversation with Gary Gibbon this week is Professor Matthew Goodwin, author of 'National Populism: The Revolt against Liberal Democracy' and Dr Daphne Halikiopoulou of Reading University. Producer: Jack Parkes Editing: Sarah Gough
09/11/1832m 19s

Tax and Spend

The Chancellor this week declared "austerity was coming to an end". But how significant were this week's Budget announcements? Gary Gibbon talks the politics of 'Tax and Spend' with two former senior Treasury advisers who between them worked on dozens of fiscal events. Rupert Harrison was formerly Chief of Staff to George Osborne when he was Chancellor, while Torsten Bell was former Chief of Staff to Labour's Ed Miliband. A new episode of Politics: Where Next? is released every Friday. Producer: Sarah Gough Editing: Jack Parkes  
02/11/1832m 16s

Global Britain?

It was the slogan coined by former foreign secretary Boris Johnson and then picked up by Prime Minister Theresa May and the rest of her Cabinet: Global Britain. Post-Brexit, are we going global, or going it alone? Gary chats to pro-Leave former Labour MP Gisela Stuart and pro-Remain former Paris ambassador Lord Peter Ricketts. In these tumultuous political times, does anyone know where it's all heading? Join Channel 4 News' Political Editor Gary Gibbon and guests as they thrash out the possibilities.
26/10/1829m 32s

The EU without us

After Brexit talks stalled last weekend, the EU leaders begged Theresa May to come to the Brussels summit with new concrete proposals. There wasn't really time for that but she did talk about the possibility of extending the standstill transition. Amidst the uncertainty of negotiations, Theresa May insists: Britain is leaving the EU, March next year. So where next for the EU at 27? How will it change without Britain - the awkward customer, the lobbyist for free trade - in the room? Gary sits down with life-long diplomat Sir Robert Cooper. Subscribe for a new episode of Politics: Where Next? every Friday. Presenter: Gary Gibbon.  Producer: Sarah Gough.
19/10/1825m 17s

Austerity - with George Osborne

Last week Theresa May declared austerity was over. This week former Prime Minister Gordon Brown said it was still rampant and welfare cuts could lead to riots on the streets. The man who was godfather of the austerity project George Osborne began it all with his budget eight years ago. How does he reflect on his time as Chancellor of the Exchequer and what does he think is next for Britain post-Brexit? Subscribe for a new episode of Politics: Where Next? every Friday. Host: Gary Gibbon. Producer: Sarah Gough.
12/10/1839m 45s

Coming Soon: Politics: Where Next?

In these tumultuous political times, does anyone know where it's all heading? Join Channel 4 News' Political Editor Gary Gibbon and guests as they thrash out the possibilities. Produced by Sarah Gough. Artwork by Ian Watkins. Jingle by Tim James.
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