73. Kefir-tunately, with Simon Mundie

Simon Mundie – sports reporter and presenter of Radio 4’s new podcast ‘Don’t Tell Me the Score’ – becomes the first guest to bring Fi and Jane homemade kefir. They discuss what sport can teach us about resilience, tribalism and mental health. Plus, the revelation that mutton is back on the menu at the BBC Club and why you should never wear earrings and a necklace at the same time.