113. Gossipy Proust, with Ann Cleeves

Fi and Jane get a special visit from acclaimed crime-writer Ann Cleeves.

The creator of Vera and Shetland tells them about her new book The Long Call, set in North Devon. Ann also takes them through her many different vocations, offers reading recommendations and fields the ladies' questions on everyone's favourite Northumberland DCI.

In addition to that, Fi goes in on make-up language and Jane tells all about an incident she swore would never make it to the airways.