Playbook Deep Dive

How Doug Burgum plans to disrupt the GOP debate & scale his campaign

This coming Wednesday, something big is happening in Milwaukee: the
first Republican presidential debate. 

On this week’s episode of Playbook Deep Dive, host &amp; Playbook co-author
Ryan Lizza talks with North Dakota Governor &amp; GOP presidential candidate
Doug Burgum about how he hatched one of the most innovative schemes in
memory to qualify for Wednesday's GOP debate; how he’s preparing to
compete on the stage with big leaguers like Ron DeSantis and Donald
Trump – if Trump shows up; how his background as a conservative in the
tech world informs his worldview; and why one photograph of him cleaning
a chimney in a tuxedo changed his life.

Ryan Lizza is a Playbook co-author for POLITICO.
Doug Burgum is the governor of North Dakota and a GOP presidential
candidate.
Kara Tabor is a producer for POLITICO audio. 
Alex Keeney is a senior producer for POLITICO audio.

Welcome to Playbook Deep Dive, the stories behind the power. From Congress and the White House to bar stools and back rooms, POLITICO Playbook’s Ryan Lizza brings you interviews with the most compelling and important figures who explain what’s really going on in Washington.