Foul Play: Crime Series

…12 dates … …14 love gone wrong stories… …Will YOU be my Valentine? This Valentine’s Day, prepare for a unique podcast experience! Shane Waters will introduce 14 crime podcast hosts. Each host brings a new, love gone wrong true story to mix. It’s an extra special, two part, more than two-hour, Valentine event.  Part 2 of 2. Podcasts are listed here in order of appearance: In this Part 2 Episode:  1. Sirens 2. The Trail Went Cold 3. Method and Madness 4. True Crime Cases with Lanie 5. Crimelines 6. Love Murder 7. Foul Play: Crime Series In the Part 1 Episode:  1. Murder She Told 2. True Crime Island 3. Hillbilly Horror Stories 4. Tapes from the Darkside 5. Coffee and Cases 6. Gone Cold – Texas True Crime 7. Live, Laugh, Larceny

…12 dates … …14 love gone wrong stories… …Will YOU be my Valentine? This Valentine’s Day, prepare for a unique podcast experience! Shane Waters will introduce 14 crime podcast hosts. Each host brings a new, love gone wrong true story to mix. It’s an extra special, two part, more than two-hour, Valentine event.  Part 1 of 2. Podcasts are listed here in order of appearance: In this Part 1 Episode:  1. Murder She Told 2. True Crime Island 3. Hillbilly Horror Stories 4. Tapes from the Darkside 5. Coffee and Cases 6. Gone Cold – Texas True Crime 7. Live, Laugh, Larceny In the next Part 2 Episode:  1. Sirens 2. The Trail Went Cold 3. Method and Madness 4. True Crime Cases with Lanie 5. Crimelines 6. Love Murder 7. Foul Play: Crime Series

I‌n the last episode, we talked about this little town called Windsor in North Carolina and the Be-Lo grocery store where six workers were taking care of closing shift tasks on Sunday, June 6, 1993. They just were unaware of the 7th person, a stranger that was observing them from a hiding place, waiting for the right moment to strike. Support our podcast by becoming a patron. Find us on all platforms. Visit us online. Visit us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok.

On June 16th, 1993, six employees in a small grocery store in the town of Windsor, NC were finishing their day when they experienced a living nightmare. Windsor is located in Birdie County and has a rich history, as one of the oldest towns in the state of North Carolina. Today, the town is home to about 3,500 people and 300 year old homes still line King Street. Everyone in Windsor knows everyone, making this crime particularly shocking to the community and leaving many in disbelief. As this case is more nearly 30 years old, we will be exploring the details of this massacre and its impact on the town in a series of episodes. Support our podcast by becoming a patron. Find us on all platforms. Visit us online. Visit us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok.

On the Sunday evening of August 27, 2006, just after 9 PM, police responded to a call regarding a missing child in Leesburg, Florida. As the officers arrived at the scene, the mother, 21-year-old Melinda Duckett, explained that she had put her son, 2-year-old Trenton, to bed around 7 PM. She had then watched a movie with two of her friends before going to check on Trenton—but to her horror, the 2-year-old's bed was empty. Melinda was quite sure that the little boy could not have gotten out of the crib, but it was another thing that caused her and her friends to panic someone had cut through the window screen of the room. Support our podcast by becoming a patron. Find us on all platforms. Visit us online. Visit us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok. Episode Sponsor: Cancel unwanted subscriptions - and manage your expenses the easy way - by going to RocketMoney.com/FOULPLAY

It’s the end of the season. Time for final thoughts, conclusions and alternative motives. And we have an expert analyse the 999 call, which is fascinating. Documentaries about Sharon’s murder: -Who Killed Sharon Birchwood - Police Tapes with Susanna Reid -The Murder of Sharon Birchwood - Murder Detective with Graham Bell Support our podcast by becoming a patron. Find us on all platforms. Visit us online. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok.

The police are off to Thailand. No, it’s not a holiday, it’s time to arrest the hitman and he’s off to the Old Bailey. Documentaries about Sharon’s murder: Who Killed Sharon Birchwood - Police Tapes with Susanna Reid The Murder of Sharon Birchwood - Murder Detective with Graham Bell ‌Support our podcast by becoming a patron. Find us on all platforms. Visit us online. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok. Episode Sponsor: - Cancel unwanted subscriptions - and manage your expenses the easy way - by going to RocketMoney.com/FOULPLAY

We know George is a suspect, he doesn’t, awkward !  This is one funeral I won’t forget in a hurry.  It’s time for us to bury Sharon. Oh, and George gets finally gets his comeuppance. Support our podcast by becoming a patron. Find us on all platforms. Visit us online. Checkout Shane's new podcast with his brother: Mystery Inc!  You Can find Shane's history Podcast Hometown History here.  Join our Facebook Group, Follow us on Twitter and Instagram. 

If you’ve ever wondered why and how someone becomes a hitman, then tune in to episode 5, where I will tell you everything I know about a certain Paul Cryne. ‌Support our podcast by becoming a patron. Find us on all platforms. Visit us online. Episode Sponsor: - Cancel unwanted subscriptions - and manage your expenses the easy way - by going to RocketMoney.com/FOULPLAY

When the DNA results come back the police are crushed, and it’s a hard Christmas for everyone as the case of my aunt Sharon’s murder remains unsolved. But wait……who is Paul? Support our podcast by becoming a patron. Find us on all platforms: Foul Play: Crime Series Visit us online at Visit us online.

From the same team that brings you Foul Play: Crime Series, I want to introduce you to Shane's new show Mystery Inc. If you enjoy talking about shady mysteries, Aliens, murder, legends, and of course the occasional tea - then Mystery Inc is the podcast for you! Together brothers Shane and Josh Waters travel in their Mystery Machine Tesla scouting out some of the world’s best mysteries to share them here with you on Mystery Inc - which can be found wherever you listen to podcasts. Find all the places to listen. Visit Mystery Inc online. Follow Mystery Inc on Facebook. Josh is also the host of Rotten to the Core.

In this episode there are more shocks for our family as the truth about Sharon’s marriage to George are revealed. And the relentless police interviews with George finally start to unravel the truth. ‌Visit us online. Support our podcast by becoming a patron. Find us on all platforms. ‌Episode Sponsor: - Go to Talkspace.com/FOULPLAY ​to ​get $100 off of your first month​!

Gemma and Survivor Donna are in Maryland today (12/7/2022) to speak at a press conference along with SNAP and their attorneys. They are filing with the court in regards to the Attorney General's attempt to release the 456-page report on child sexual abuse by clergy in the Archdiocese of Baltimore. They want to make their voice heard asking for full disclosure of the report with no redactions. The Maryland Attorney General investigation into the sexual abuse of children by clergy in the Archdiocese of Baltimore (AOB) has concluded. The 456-page report details the sexual abuse of more than 600 victims at the hands of 158 Catholic Priests that were part of the AOB. Attorney General Brian Frosh has turned his report over to the courts and has asked the court to release it to the public saying his investigation uncovered many attempts of coverups of priests abusing children by those in the Archdiocese. The Archdiocese of Baltimore said they want full transparency and will not fight the release of the report, however they are paying for the legal fees of an "anonymous" group of people who are trying to prevent the report's release. Survivors Jean and Teresa have filed with the court to have their voices heard previously.  Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here.

As the investigation into the murder of my aunt, Sharon Birchwood, continued it became clear that she wasn’t killed on the 7th of December 2007 after all. But in a hoarders home, with piles and drawers full of paperwork, will the police find the evidence that they need to get to the truth? Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. You can find Shane's history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Episode Sponsors: - Go to Talkspace.com and use promo code FOULPLAY to get $100 off of your first month. -  Get up to 25% off subscription orders of $40 or more at NextEvo.com promo code FOULPLAY.

"Are you hoping I die so that you can use the insurance money to sort out your mess"? These words were found on a scrap of paper in the home of my Aunt, Sharon Birchwood, following her murder in December 2007. But who had murdered my aunt, and why? The investigation begins. Written and Narrated by Foul Play's crime writer Wendy Cee. ‌Voiceover help from Trevin @ Live Laugh Larceny Podcast Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. You can find Shane's history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here.

The Maryland Attorney General investigation into the sexual abuse of children by clergy in the Archdiocese of Baltimore (AOB) has concluded. The 456-page report details the sexual abuse of more than 600 victims at the hands of 158 Catholic Priests that were part of the AOB. Attorney General Brian Frosh has turned his report over to the courts and has asked the court to release it to the public saying his investigation uncovered many attempts of coverups of priests abusing children by those in the Archdiocese. While Shane travels to Baltimore to do some podcasting with Gemma, he stops at a hotel in Pittsburg and records this phone conversation with Teresa Lancaster about the conclusion of the report and where we are now... as well as a mysterious group of individuals who have come forward to oppose the report being released. Concluding the episode is Jean Wehner at the SNAP press conference after news of the report being finished. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here.

Season 15 of Foul Play: Crime Series is starting December 4th. This series is created and narrated by the typical crime writer of our show Wendy Cee. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here.

We discuss the murder trial of Nell Cropsey, which has been postponed several times. Finally, on January 16th, the trial begins. We describe the events leading up to the trial and the anticipation of the outcome. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History at https://link.chtbl.com/hometownhistory Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets: https://link.chtbl.com/foulplay

Jim Wilcox was accused of murdering Nell Cropsey, but the evidence against him was weak and circumstantial. As Jim Wilcox sat in a jail in the town of Elizabeth City, Nell's body was released to her family. Over 200 family members awaited her arrival at the Van Pelt Manor in Brooklyn. Deep blank with heavy white curtains, the hearse traveled across the north river to the Pennsylvania Terminal. Once the hearse was at the terminal, it would await the arrival of the Southern Express to take Nell to her final resting place. Back home, back with her family. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History at https://link.chtbl.com/hometownhistory Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets: https://link.chtbl.com/foulplay Episode Sponsors: - Go to Talkspace.com and use the code FOULPLAY to get $100 off of your first month. - Get $15 off your purchase of a Skylight Frame when you go SkylightFrame.com and enter code FOUL. 

Nell Cropsey was missing, and fingers were quickly pointed at Jim Wilcox. He was the last person to see her, so it would make sense. But things are never that clear-cut. The following day, Jim appeared in front of the Mayor, but with no solid evidence. Jim was free to go, but with a catch, he was required to see the Mayor every day at 12 until told otherwise. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History at https://link.chtbl.com/hometownhistory Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets: https://link.chtbl.com/foulplay Episode Sponsor: -For up to 25% off subscription orders of $40 or more, use promo code FOULPLAY at NextEvo.com

There is a house in Elizabeth City, North Carolina. Its Queen Anne style Frame sits on Riverside Ave near the Pasquotank river. It stands two stories high, with green and white siding and trim. This house, like so many, holds a dark history. Onlookers of the house claim to see a ghostly figure standing in front of a window of the second story. A young girl, taken before she could truly live life. A girl who has a secret. Her name is Nell Cropsey, and the town still talks about her story to this day. But no-one truly knows what happened to Nell. The best we can do for her is to tell her story. The good, the bad, and the dark. Joining Shane to host this season is Justin Evans from Generation Why and The Peripheral. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite unsolved murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! 

Shane and Gemma welcome Retired FBI Special Agent William Ortiz to the Sister Cathy series to discuss Polygraph Examinations. William is a Marine Corps veteran, retired from the FBI after 22 years as a Special Agent, and is the founder of Ortsec - a polygraph service company. Join Shane Waters and The Keepers' Gemma Hoskins in this series, along with many of the women and men featured in the the Netflix series. This is an ongoing series. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here.

…1 campfire… …1 dark forest… …31 bone-chilling stories… …Will YOU survive the night? This Halloween season, enter the woods for a unique and truly epic podcast experience! Around the campfire Shane Waters will introduce 31 crime podcast hosts, including Foul Play. Each host brings a new, nerve-wracking true story to the circle. It’s an extra special, two part, five-hour, Halloween event, but before hitting play you might want to ask yourself…can you really handle this much murder and mayhem? So, pull up to the fire and brace yourself for ‘A Nightmare Before Halloween’ …but be warned… …bad things happen in these woods…. Podcasts are listed here in order of appearance: In this Part 2 Episode: - True Crime Island [https://tinyurl.com/y6kk2npj] - Based on a True Story [https://tinyurl.com/37axzn5z] - The Asian Madness Podcast [https://tinyurl.com/yckkxbjn] - Sistas Who Kill [https://linktr.ee/Sistas.Who.Kill.Podcast] - Hometown History [https://link.chtbl.com/hometownhistory] - Coffee and Cases [https://linktr.ee/coffeeandcases] - Military Murder [https://tinyurl.com/yc5fxjyh] - Dystopian Simulation Radio [https://tinyurl.com/khpw786w] - Cults, Crimes & Cabernet [https://linktr.ee/cultscrimesandcabernet] - Morbidology [https://tinyurl.com/mshyvxyt] - Dark Pountine [https://tinyurl.com/ycydanm9] - Hillbilly Horror Stories [https://tinyurl.com/567vxrkz] - True Consequences [https://tinyurl.com/39fpfv3h] - Gone Cold [https://tinyurl.com/ytzxudt8] - Crime Stories with Nancy Grace & Crime Online [https://tinyurl.com/3dxp47wf] - True Crime IRL & True Crime Sleep Stories [https://tinyurl.com/ykzwmnxr] In the last Part 1 Episode: - Foul Play: Crime Series [https://link.chtbl.com/foulplay] - Murder She Told [https://tinyurl.com/55473exk] - Crime Salad [https://tinyurl.com/4pbtdtpc] - Crimelines [https://linktr.ee/crimelines] - Frightful [https://link.chtbl.com/frightful] - Reverie True Crime [https://linktr.ee/paigeelmore] - Rotten to the Core [https://link.chtbl.com/Rotten] - The Trail Went Cold [https://tinyurl.com/2zydj3y] - Once Upon A Crime [https://www.truecrimepodcast.com] - Criminology [https://tinyurl.com/yvuu9u8d] - The Peripheral & Generation Why [https://link.chtbl.com/ThePeripheral] - Live, Laugh, Larceny [https://linktr.ee/Live.Laugh.Larceny.Podcast] - The Hidden Staircase [https://link.chtbl.com/TheHiddenStaircase] - True Crime Cases with Lanie & It's Haunted...What Now? [https://linktr.ee/LanieHobbs] - Obscura: A True Crime Podcast & Disaster [https://link.chtbl.com/obscura] Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

…1 campfire… …1 dark forest… …31 bone-chilling stories… …Will YOU survive the night? This Halloween season, enter the woods for a unique and truly epic podcast experience! Around the campfire Shane Waters will introduce 31 crime podcast hosts. Each host brings a new, nerve-wracking true story to the circle. It’s an extra special, two part, five-hour, Halloween event, but before hitting play you might want to ask yourself…can you really handle this much murder and mayhem? So, pull up to the fire and brace yourself for ‘A Nightmare Before Halloween’ …but be warned… …bad things happen in these woods…. Podcasts are listed here in order of appearance: In this Part 1 Episode: - Foul Play: Crime Series [https://link.chtbl.com/foulplay] - Murder She Told [https://tinyurl.com/55473exk] - Crime Salad [https://tinyurl.com/4pbtdtpc] - Crimelines [https://linktr.ee/crimelines] - Frightful [https://link.chtbl.com/frightful] - Reverie True Crime [https://linktr.ee/paigeelmore] - Rotten to the Core [https://link.chtbl.com/Rotten] - The Trail Went Cold [https://tinyurl.com/2zydj3y] - Once Upon A Crime [https://www.truecrimepodcast.com] - Criminology [https://tinyurl.com/yvuu9u8d] - The Peripheral & Generation Why [https://link.chtbl.com/ThePeripheral] - Live, Laugh, Larceny [https://linktr.ee/Live.Laugh.Larceny.Podcast] - The Hidden Staircase [https://link.chtbl.com/TheHiddenStaircase] - True Crime Cases with Lanie & It's Haunted...What Now? [https://linktr.ee/LanieHobbs] - Obscura: A True Crime Podcast & Disaster [https://link.chtbl.com/obscura] In the next Part 2 Episode: - True Crime Island [https://tinyurl.com/y6kk2npj] - Based on a True Story [https://tinyurl.com/37axzn5z] - The Asian Madness Podcast [https://tinyurl.com/yckkxbjn] - Sistas Who Kill [https://linktr.ee/Sistas.Who.Kill.Podcast] - Hometown History [https://link.chtbl.com/hometownhistory] - Coffee and Cases [https://linktr.ee/coffeeandcases] - Military Murder [https://tinyurl.com/yc5fxjyh] - Dystopian Simulation Radio [https://tinyurl.com/khpw786w] - Cults, Crimes & Cabernet [https://linktr.ee/cultscrimesandcabernet] - Morbidology [https://tinyurl.com/mshyvxyt] - Dark Pountine [https://tinyurl.com/ycydanm9] - Hillbilly Horror Stories [https://tinyurl.com/567vxrkz] - True Consequences [https://tinyurl.com/39fpfv3h] - Gone Cold [https://tinyurl.com/ytzxudt8] - Crime Stories with Nancy Grace & Crime Online [https://tinyurl.com/3dxp47wf] - True Crime IRL & True Crime Sleep Stories [https://tinyurl.com/ykzwmnxr] Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Lizzie Borden was an American woman tried and acquitted of the August 4, 1892 axe murders of her father and stepmother in Fall River, Massachusetts. No one else was charged in the murders, and despite ostracism from other residents, Borden spent the remainder of her life in Fall River. She died of pneumonia at age 66, just days before the death of her older sister, Emma. The Borden murders and trial received widespread publicity throughout the United States, and along with Borden herself, they remain a topic in American popular culture to the present day. They have been depicted in numerous films, theatrical productions, literary works, and folk rhymes and are still very well-known in the Fall River area. Join Shane as he breaks down the crimes behind the Borden murders in this crime series. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Lizzie Borden was an American woman tried and acquitted of the August 4, 1892 axe murders of her father and stepmother in Fall River, Massachusetts. No one else was charged in the murders, and despite ostracism from other residents, Borden spent the remainder of her life in Fall River. She died of pneumonia at age 66, just days before the death of her older sister, Emma. The Borden murders and trial received widespread publicity throughout the United States, and along with Borden herself, they remain a topic in American popular culture to the present day. They have been depicted in numerous films, theatrical productions, literary works, and folk rhymes and are still very well-known in the Fall River area. Join Shane as he breaks down the crimes behind the Borden murders in this crime series. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Lizzie Borden was an American woman tried and acquitted of the August 4, 1892 axe murders of her father and stepmother in Fall River, Massachusetts. No one else was charged in the murders, and despite ostracism from other residents, Borden spent the remainder of her life in Fall River. She died of pneumonia at age 66, just days before the death of her older sister, Emma. The Borden murders and trial received widespread publicity throughout the United States, and along with Borden herself, they remain a topic in American popular culture to the present day. They have been depicted in numerous films, theatrical productions, literary works, and folk rhymes and are still very well-known in the Fall River area. Join Shane as he breaks down the crimes behind the Borden murders in this crime series. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Episode Sponsor: - Go to Talkspace.com and use the code FOULPLAY to get $100 off of your first month. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Lizzie Borden was an American woman tried and acquitted of the August 4, 1892 axe murders of her father and stepmother in Fall River, Massachusetts. No one else was charged in the murders, and despite ostracism from other residents, Borden spent the remainder of her life in Fall River. She died of pneumonia at age 66, just days before the death of her older sister, Emma. The Borden murders and trial received widespread publicity throughout the United States, and along with Borden herself, they remain a topic in American popular culture to the present day. They have been depicted in numerous films, theatrical productions, literary works, and folk rhymes and are still very well-known in the Fall River area. Join Shane as he breaks down the crimes behind the Borden murders in this crime series. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Lizzie Borden was an American woman tried and acquitted of the August 4, 1892 axe murders of her father and stepmother in Fall River, Massachusetts. No one else was charged in the murders, and despite ostracism from other residents, Borden spent the remainder of her life in Fall River. She died of pneumonia at age 66, just days before the death of her older sister, Emma. The Borden murders and trial received widespread publicity throughout the United States, and along with Borden herself, they remain a topic in American popular culture to the present day. They have been depicted in numerous films, theatrical productions, literary works, and folk rhymes and are still very well-known in the Fall River area. Join Shane as he breaks down the crimes behind the Borden murders in this crime series. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Shane and Gemma sit down with Jean and Teresa from Netflix's The Keepers to discuss the courts, the church, and the cops. If you are curious what the status of the 4 year Maryland attorney general investigation into Clergy abuse is then you have come to the right place. Join Shane Waters and The Keepers' Gemma Hoskins in this series, along with many of the women and men featured in the the Netflix series. This is an ongoing series. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. You can find Jean's books here: https://jeanwehnercoach.com/books/ You can find Teresa's book here: https://www.amazon.com/Safe-Socks-Memoir-Teresa-Lancaster/dp/B09CBBGKB2 Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Shane and Gemma sit down with Jean and Teresa from Netflix's The Keepers to discuss the courts, the church, and the cops. If you are curious what the status of the 4 year Maryland attorney general investigation into Clergy abuse is then you have come to the right place. Jean and Teresa are inviting you to stand up for truth, and support them and all survivors of child sexual abuse, by using your voice, making noise, sending e-mails and sharing their conversation to demand accountability and serious change. You can find Jean's books here: https://jeanwehnercoach.com/books/ You can find Teresa's book here: https://www.amazon.com/Safe-Socks-Memoir-Teresa-Lancaster/dp/B09CBBGKB2 Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

More than a century ago, the body of 20 year old Hazel Drew was found floating in Teal's Pond near the bottom of Taborton Mountain in Sand Lake, New York. An autopsy found that she'd died of blunt head trauma to the back of her head prior to ending up in the pond. Her death was labeled a murder. In the weeks that followed the discovery of her body, many suspects were investigated including among others: her recently widowed, and suicidal, uncle William Taylor who lived nearby; a simple-minded 17 year old farm hand named Frank Smith, who fancied Hazel and his friend Rudolph Gunderman, a charcoal peddler, the two of whom had seen her along Taborton Road, near the pond, shortly before she died; and a pair of unknown men seen by a couple driving by, about the time the murder was supposed to have taken place, at the scene - one waiting in a horse drawn runabout, and the other beating around in the bushes near the pond, as if looking for something! What made Hazel's murder all the more mysterious, was that only a few days prior to it, she'd suddenly, and unexpectedly left her job as a domestic at the home of Professor E.R. Cary in Troy, and nobody knew what her intentions were. Also her luggage had been left - checked at the train station. In the end, all the leads the investigators had ran out. Nobody was ever arrested or charged with the murder, and to this day - Hazel Drew's murder remains unsolved! Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Episode Sponsor: - Go to Talkspace.com and use the code FOULPLAY to get $100 off of your first month. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

More than a century ago, the body of 20 year old Hazel Drew was found floating in Teal's Pond near the bottom of Taborton Mountain in Sand Lake, New York. An autopsy found that she'd died of blunt head trauma to the back of her head prior to ending up in the pond. Her death was labeled a murder. In the weeks that followed the discovery of her body, many suspects were investigated including among others: her recently widowed, and suicidal, uncle William Taylor who lived nearby; a simple-minded 17 year old farm hand named Frank Smith, who fancied Hazel and his friend Rudolph Gunderman, a charcoal peddler, the two of whom had seen her along Taborton Road, near the pond, shortly before she died; and a pair of unknown men seen by a couple driving by, about the time the murder was supposed to have taken place, at the scene - one waiting in a horse drawn runabout, and the other beating around in the bushes near the pond, as if looking for something! What made Hazel's murder all the more mysterious, was that only a few days prior to it, she'd suddenly, and unexpectedly left her job as a domestic at the home of Professor E.R. Cary in Troy, and nobody knew what her intentions were. Also her luggage had been left - checked at the train station. In the end, all the leads the investigators had ran out. Nobody was ever arrested or charged with the murder, and to this day - Hazel Drew's murder remains unsolved! Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

More than a century ago, the body of 20 year old Hazel Drew was found floating in Teal's Pond near the bottom of Taborton Mountain in Sand Lake, New York. An autopsy found that she'd died of blunt head trauma to the back of her head prior to ending up in the pond. Her death was labeled a murder. In the weeks that followed the discovery of her body, many suspects were investigated including among others: her recently widowed, and suicidal, uncle William Taylor who lived nearby; a simple-minded 17 year old farm hand named Frank Smith, who fancied Hazel and his friend Rudolph Gunderman, a charcoal peddler, the two of whom had seen her along Taborton Road, near the pond, shortly before she died; and a pair of unknown men seen by a couple driving by, about the time the murder was supposed to have taken place, at the scene - one waiting in a horse drawn runabout, and the other beating around in the bushes near the pond, as if looking for something! What made Hazel's murder all the more mysterious, was that only a few days prior to it, she'd suddenly, and unexpectedly left her job as a domestic at the home of Professor E.R. Cary in Troy, and nobody knew what her intentions were. Also her luggage had been left - checked at the train station. In the end, all the leads the investigators had ran out. Nobody was ever arrested or charged with the murder, and to this day - Hazel Drew's murder remains unsolved! Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

More than a century ago, the body of 20 year old Hazel Drew was found floating in Teal's Pond near the bottom of Taborton Mountain in Sand Lake, New York. An autopsy found that she'd died of blunt head trauma to the back of her head prior to ending up in the pond. Her death was labeled a murder. In the weeks that followed the discovery of her body, many suspects were investigated including among others: her recently widowed, and suicidal, uncle William Taylor who lived nearby; a simple-minded 17 year old farm hand named Frank Smith, who fancied Hazel and his friend Rudolph Gunderman, a charcoal peddler, the two of whom had seen her along Taborton Road, near the pond, shortly before she died; and a pair of unknown men seen by a couple driving by, about the time the murder was supposed to have taken place, at the scene - one waiting in a horse drawn runabout, and the other beating around in the bushes near the pond, as if looking for something! What made Hazel's murder all the more mysterious, was that only a few days prior to it, she'd suddenly, and unexpectedly left her job as a domestic at the home of Professor E.R. Cary in Troy, and nobody knew what her intentions were. Also her luggage had been left - checked at the train station. In the end, all the leads the investigators had ran out. Nobody was ever arrested or charged with the murder, and to this day - Hazel Drew's murder remains unsolved! Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

The interview room was eerily silent, Marshall had just admitted to decapitating and dismembering the body of Anna May Dietrich. He didn’t kill her; he was adamant about that. But if the discovery of a body was found in his office. His reputation, his family’s reputation, would be tarnished. He did the only thing he thought he could do. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

The murder of Anna May Dietrich was one of the most gruesome cases Philadelphia had seen in a long time. With what police had learned about Anna’s life, they were baffled. Who would murder a woman who by all accounts was a sweet, and caring woman? When police made the discovery of her head, they noticed something was missing… Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Episode Sponsor: Download your new favorite getaway, BEST FIENDS, for FREE today on the App Store or Google Play. You'll even get $5 worth of in-game rewards when you reach Level 5. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

When we ended the last episode, we left off where the discovery of a dismembered body was identified as Anna May Dietrich, although it wasn’t 100% certain, everything she was wearing matched with what Anna was wearing the day she was last seen. Today, we will learn more about Anna, how her friends and family knew her. But did they know her completely? Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Episode Sponsor: - Go to Talkspace.com and use the code FOULPLAY to get $100 off of your first month. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, city of Brotherly love and Sisterly affection. A city full of history, home of the liberty bell, the signing of the Declaration of independence, and the location of execution for the notorious murderer H. H. Holmes. But we are not here to discuss the gruesome crimes of H. H. In this series, we will be talking about the death of Anna May Dietrich, a 35-year-old Milliner. A woman who wanted love, a love that ultimately resulted in her death. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Episode Sponsor: -Download your new favorite getaway, BEST FIENDS, for FREE today on the App Store or Google Play. You'll even get $5 worth of in-game rewards when you reach Level 5. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Gemma and Shane sit down with Jean and her brother to discuss the details in her new book, Walking with Aletheia. Find Upcoming Book Events: jeanwehnercoach.com/appearances/ Visit Jean's Website: jeanwehnercoach.com Find Jean's Books: https://jeanwehnercoach.com/books/ Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

How did your family react to the video and the fallout from the sting at the movie theater? My dad really, really didn't really say a whole lot. He was just, I could see it in his face he was pretty stressed out, but just like me take things into. My mom is also not the type of person to basically lash out, but super understanding. So when I first brought all of this to them, she was didn't completely, fully understand the magnitude of what was actually going on. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Last episode, we learned that the men at the theater waiting for Brent were his former roommates, Sean (bleep) and Jacob (bleep). Not only were they former roommates, but they were also fellow Ball State students in the music department. The three men lived together for a year and a half, from the summer of 2009 to the fall of 2010. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Episode Sponsor: - Download your new favorite getaway, BEST FIENDS, for FREE today on the App Store or Google Play. You'll even get $5 worth of in-game rewards when you reach Level 5. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

The last time we saw Brent, he was at the AMC IMAX theater, on the east side of Noblesville, Indiana. A sophomore at Ball State University, Brent had arranged to meet an underaged girl in for a movie that afternoon. But rather than the pretty blonde teenager he’d been communicating with over the last six months, he was met by two men with video cameras. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Episode Sponsor: - save $10 on your first purchase when you go to StoryWorth.com/foulplay Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Our story begins with a man walking into a movie theater in Noblesville, Indiana – 22-year-old Brent Allred. Brent is shy, self-effacing, and junior at nearby Ball State University. He’s meeting a woman here, or rather a girl, for the very first time. They’ve been talking for six months now, and today he’s wearing the appropriate amount of overpriced cologne, a button-down shirt, black leather shoes, and he’s holding a pair of movie tickets for the two of them that he bought in advance for this day. **Trigger warning, this episode discusses a relationship with an underage girl** Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Episode Sponsor: - Get $20 off your first purchase at rothys.com/FOULPLAY. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

I have so many questions about Holmes and we are sure you do too, so in this episode we will be answering some of them. Let’s start with Why Did Holmes Kill Pitezel? Holmes had written to Mrs Pitezel from prison just before she was released and the letter included the phrase [quote] we never quarreled [end quote] Well, this is Holmes we are talking about, so it won’t come as any surprise I am sure, that what he wrote was pure fiction. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Episode Sponsors: Find your inner detective --Download June’s Journey free today on the Apple App Store or Google Play!

Holmes was sentenced to hanging for the murder of Benjamin F Pitezel on May 7th 1986, when he was aged just 34 years old. While there was a lot of circumstantial evidence that he also murdered Alice, Nellie and Howard Pitezel, and there were suspicions surrounding many others, he was never tried for them. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Episode Sponsors: -Download your new favorite getaway, BEST FIENDS, for FREE today on the App Store or Google Play. -Find yourinner detective --Download June’s Journey free today on the Apple App Store or Google Play!

Of course, nobody in the District Attorney’s office believed a word that came out of Holmes mouth, so the investigation to find the children continued in earnest. It was going to be like finding a needle in a haystack, but they were determined. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here.

Frank Geyer, started his career with the City of Philadelphia Police Department on 6 May 1876 as a patrolman. In January 1888 he was promoted to detective and in 1894 was assigned a new case, involving suspected insurance fraud by H H Holmes. This should have been a straight forward case, but as Geyer scratched the surface, he uncovered a lot more than he bargained for Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Episode Sponsors: - Get $20 off your first purchase today at rothys.com/FOULPLAY - Go to catalinacrunch.com/FOULPLAYfor 15% off your first order—plus FREE shipping.

Holmes settled in comfortably in Chicago, he was well liked, he was charismatic, intelligent and fun to be around, nobody had a bad word to say about him. He worked hard and saved his money, his family was an inconvenience and he sent very little back to his wife Clara and their son Robert. In 1887, 2 years after arriving in Chicago Holmes bought the empty lot across the road from the drugstore that he worked at. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Episode Sponser:  - Find out how Upstart can lower your monthly payments today when you go to UPSTART.com/FOULPLAY.

Just a month after the beginning of the American Civil War, on May 16th, 1861, arguably the world's most infamous serial killer was born in Gilmanton, New Hampshire. In this episode Shane explores the early life of Herman Webster Mudgett, also known as H. H. Holmes, to discover if there are any clues that could hint to the monster her is rumored to become in Chicago during the World's Fair. Join Shane as he explores the life and crimes of the infamous H. H. Holmes on this season of Foul Play. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Episode Sponsors: - Download Best Fiends FREE today on the App Store or Google Play! - Download June's Journey FREE today on the App Store or Google Play!

This is a single non-series episode. In 2009, a young woman walked out from a Lost Hills Police Station in the middle of the night and disappeared without a trace. Today, over a decade later, the case of Mitrice Richardson still remains a bizarre mystery. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here.

This is a single non-series episode. Today’s story is one of lust, despair, illusions, and an unbridled affinity for putting up deceptive fronts. Today, we talk about Kristie Evans. Our story begins sometime around 1974 in Roland, Oklahoma, when Kristie Dawnelle Evans was born. Born and bred in Roland, Kristie didn't know of any other world, and as a town of only a few thousand in Arkansas, Kristie grew up as a small-town girl. In high school, she met David Evans, a senior 3 years older than her. David had a flair about him... call it relaxed or call it nonchalance. It wasn't exactly love at first sight. Naturally, they were both in different head spaces, given their age difference. But it was clear that they were interested in each other because by 1991, when Kristie was only 17 years old, she began dating David Evans. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Episode Sponsors: - catalinacrunch.com/FOULPLAY for 15% off your first order—plus FREE shipping. - $20 off at ROTHYS.com/FOULPLAY. - Find out how Upstart can lower your monthly payments today when you go to UPSTART.com/FOULPLAY.

A seemingly happy family belonging in a Norman Rockwell painting would soon turn into a thing of nightmares… this is the story of Ann and Anthony Anastasi, it's one of jealousy, rage, and murder. Ann Marie Anastasi was born sometime around 1973. There's not much background information on where she grew up or came from, but she was a traditional young woman who grew up in Maryland. Anthony Anastasi was also born sometime in 1975, and while his past is still unknown too, we know he fell in love with and married Ann in Maryland. Our story picks up right in the middle of their marriage. They had moved from Maryland to Sault Ste Marie, Michigan, because Anthony was working as a volunteer youth hockey coach. By this point, Ann and Anthony had already had five kids and were already deep in the trenches of a full-fledged marriage. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Episode Sponsors: -Find your inner detective -- Download June’s Journey free today on the Apple App Store or Google Play! -Download Best Fiends FREE today on the App Store or Google Play.

Shane and Gemma continue the conversation on the unsolved murder of Sister Cathy. The pair interview Teresa Lancaster and her daughter Annette to discuss Teresa's new book Safe in Socks. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

A few months ago, Shane received an email from a high school teacher in Hartwell, Georgia, named Leanne. Leanne explained that she was using true crime to teach a Freshman and Sophomore course in World Literature in a very out-of-the-box way. She was requiring her students to investigate an unsolved local case and develop a podcast episode presenting their findings.   In her email she explained she learned of Shane from his work with another high school teacher, Alex from Elizabethton, Tennessee, on the Redhead Murders case. She asked for any advice he could throw her way.   Shane responded immediately, saying he and our audio engineer would travel the 11 hours down to Hartwell, Georgia from the studio in Wabash, Indiana, to help teach her students how to create a true crime podcast. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here.

(Part 3) In late 2006 a small town in the East of the United Kingdom was shaken by a killing spree of 5 women, over a very short 6 week period. Ipswich, a tranquil, historic town in the county of Suffolk in England is now a thriving tourist hotspot, with a waterfront location. The town is has many lovely bars and restaurants surrounding it’s historic docks. Back in 2006, like most towns, Ipswich had its fair share of issues, including a thriving sex worker industry, based in the red light district in London Road. In fact, the problem was so bad, that the London Road area of Ipswich was actually a no go zone for local residents. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Episode Sponsors: - Catalinacrunch.com/FOULPLAY for 15% off your first order—plus FREE shipping. - Solve the case of your next favorite spring shoe with Rothy’s. Plus, get $20 off your first purchase at rothys.com/FOULPLAY

(Part 2) In late 2006 a small town in the East of the United Kingdom was shaken by a killing spree of 5 women, over a very short 6 week period. Ipswich, a tranquil, historic town in the county of Suffolk in England is now a thriving tourist hotspot, with a waterfront location. The town is has many lovely bars and restaurants surrounding it’s historic docks. Back in 2006, like most towns, Ipswich had its fair share of issues, including a thriving sex worker industry, based in the red light district in London Road. In fact, the problem was so bad, that the London Road area of Ipswich was actually a no go zone for local residents. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Episode Sponsors: -Download Best Fiends FREE today on the App Store or Google Play. -Download June’s Journey free today on the Apple App Store or Google Play!

(Part 1) In late 2006 a small town in the East of the United Kingdom was shaken by a killing spree of 5 women, over a very short 6 week period. Ipswich, a tranquil, historic town in the county of Suffolk in England is now a thriving tourist hotspot, with a waterfront location. The town is has many lovely bars and restaurants surrounding it’s historic docks. Back in 2006, like most towns, Ipswich had its fair share of issues, including a thriving sex worker industry, based in the red light district in London Road. In fact, the problem was so bad, that the London Road area of Ipswich was actually a no go zone for local residents. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here.

This is a single non-series episode. People tend to stick with what they know. If you've been a criminal for the majority of your life, it can be difficult to envision another way of living. While it's true some former inmates do emerge from prison reformed, there are many others who are repeat offenders.   This was certainly the case with David Early. For most of his life he was incarcerated and then given second chances by parole boards who wanted to believe in the power of rehabilitation. Unfortunately, they gambled on the wrong man. After decades beyond bars, Early went on to slaughter the Knight family. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Episode Sponsors: -Download Best Fiends FREE today on the App Store or Google Play.

This is a single non-series episode. Nancy and Robert Kissel had a life that would exceed most people's wildest dreams. A luxury apartment in a serene setting just a stone's throw from Hong Kong. A spacious vacation home in rural Vermont. And three healthy young children, with enough money to indulge their every whim. Yet sometimes, the most idyllic lives mask a shadowy truth. A reality check surfaced in September 2003, when the body of 40-year-old Robert Kissel was found discarded in a storage facility. Was this a crime of envy? Or something much more personal? As the world watched in fascinated horror, the truth would prove to be stranger than fiction. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Episode Sponsors: -Download June’s Journey free today on the Apple App Store or Google Play!

This is a single non-series episode. While you may have never heard of the Papin sisters, their story may sound familiar: two domestic servants seeking revenge on their wealthy employer for the cards they’ve been dealt in life. If you do recognize that premise, it’s probably because South Korean film director Bong Jong Ho’s Oscar-winning 2019 film Parasite was inspired by this case. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Episode Sponsors: -Download Best Fiends FREE today on the App Store or Google Play.

Longview Washington, Friday 20 December 1985, The Daily News, lead with the headline ‘Congress bogs down in battle to cut federal deficit’. The front page was filled with stories about property tax increases, economic growth, politics and at the very bottom, a story about the Winter Solstice. You’d be forgiven for thinking that there were no crimes from reading this, but if you delved deeper through the pages of advertising and light hearted stories there were a few hidden in there. Page 11, the Area News section contained headlines on the latest news about the local theatre redevelopment, and the local crab fishermans decreasing catches, then tucked right near the bottom of the page ‘Ethel couple disappears’. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here.

For almost 40 years there stood a huge billboard on route 19 near Fayatteville, West Virginia. It showed the images of 5 children and the following inscription ‘On Christmas Eve 1945 our home was set afire and five of our children, ages five through fourteen kidnapped. The officials blamed defective wiring although lights were still burning after the fire started. The official report stated that the children died in the fire however no bones were found in the residue and there was no smell of burning flesh during or after the fire. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here.

Michigan’s Northern Peninsula was rife copper mining country. This was big business, making huge profits for the mining companies, but giving little pay and benefits to their workers. Many of the workers were immigrants, who had moved from Europe in the search of the New World and the amazing opportunities that had been promised to them if they moved to the United States. By 1913 there were three dominate copper mines in the area, then known as Copper Country, Calumet and Hecla Mining Company, Quincy Mine and the Copper Range Company. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Episode Sponsors: - Visit Ritual.com/FOUL and turn healthy habits into a Ritual with 10% off your first 3 months.

This is a single non-series episode. In the 1992 horror cult-classic film Candyman, curiosity takes a grad student places she never thought she’d find herself. Our lead, Helen Lyle, played by Virginia Madsen, is a young white woman who wanders into Chicago’s Near North Side housing projects. She is there to research an urban legend - chant ‘Candyman’ 5 times in front of a mirror and a one-armed maniac with a knife will appear. This concept is reminiscent of the ‘Bloody Mary’ legend that terrified many of us as kids. The idea you could be alone in the safety of your own home and suddenly have a violent predator in front of you is more than a little unsettling. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Episode Sponsors: -Download Best Fiends FREE today on the App Store or Google Play. -Match with a licensed therapist when you go to talkspace.com and get $100 off your first month with the promo code FOUL

This is a single non-series episode. For some people, attempts made to rise above the hand they’ve been dealt are met with success. Other people strive to better themselves and encounter notable resistance - maybe even a sense of futility. This was the case with Rubin Carter. It seemed anytime he tried to transcend his impoverished background or society’s rampant racism he was met with yet another obstacle. While he became a highly respected professional boxer and was once named a top middleweight contender by Ring magazine, fate had other plans in store. Events that transpired at the peak of his career would set him back so far that his reputation never recovered. Stick around to hear about the curious case of Rubin “Hurricane” Carter, a man who beat the odds but was knocked out by misfortune. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Episode Sponser: -Right now Ritual is offering my listeners 10% off your first three months. Visit ritual.com/FOUL and turn healthy habits into a Ritual.

Shane and Gemma continue the conversation on the unsolved murder of Sister Cathy. The pair interview “the brother” who shares his experience working with Sister Cathy in a setting that ultimately lead Cathy to teach in a public school. The Brother also shares a very strange encounter with Father Maskell after Sister Cathy disappeared. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

This is a standalone episode. The act of taking someone’s life through poisoning has been around since Ancient Rome and Greece, when it was the preferred method of assassination. Plants like nightshade, hemlock, oleander, and snakeroot were often mixed into a target’s food or drink. These natural poisons became less useful in Medieval Europe, when antidotes were developed for many poisonous plants. You’ll see the focal point of this case is the involvement of an atypical form of poison. While it may seem like an archaic method of inducing harm, the case we’re about to explore proves that it’s a very modern threat. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Episode Sponsors: - Go to Everlane.com/FOULPLAY and sign up for 10% off your first order plus free shipping - Visit betterhelp.com/foul to get 10% off your first month by taking charge of your mental health  - If you go to GETQUIP.com/FOULPLAY you'll get your first refill for your Smart Electric Toothbrush FREE!

This is a standalone episode. When seven men were gunned down in a Chicago garage in 1929, their killers thought nothing of it. After all, they had been engaged in a hostile war against each other, and the victims were merely collateral damage. What they didn’t expect, though, was that these killings would mark the end of the powerful grip that they had over American society. With these seven murders, they managed to topple the organized crime syndicates that terrorized the country’s citizens. This is the story of the 1929 Valentine’s Day Massacre. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Episode Sponsor: Start your ritual today and get !0% off your first 3 months at Ritual.com/foul

Season Finale. For three years now I’ve been nailing these little red crosses into the ground. I know it doesn’t mean very much, but what the hell else am I supposed to do? Forget? Walk away with the same indifference I’ve resented in others? I know they don’t fix anything; I know they don’t make anything right. Maybe most people don’t even know what they are. In fact, I’m sure they don’t. I could have marked the actual burial plots – but with what? I can’t put a name on them. I can’t fit my outrage on a little stone marker (what’s the character limit on those anyway?) Besides, putting a memorial in some remote corner of some equally remote cemetery, overtop of a forgotten body, is only going to result in a forgotten memorial. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here.

The best imaginable alibi, outside of lunch with the Dalai Lama, is simply to place yourself in police custody at the time the crime is committed. If the police are with you, they know it’s not you – or so the logic goes. This is, in fact, the very thought process that stalled the prosecution of Jerry Johns for the Redhead Murders. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here.

[Part 7] By the time someone becomes a lot lizard, they have, by and large, already suffered enough. Truck stop sex work is a late stop on a tour of misery that almost always begins at home. And if it doesn’t begin at home, it begins just outside of it, with bad boyfriends, bad uncles and other predators with their foot already in the door. Interview any one lizard, or twenty, and you’ll hear a similar story - their home life or love life was, to put it mildly, problematic. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here.

Rather than adoring and desiring his mother according to the Freudian complex, Jerry Johns appears to have hated her subtly and relentlessly under the guise of run of the mill spree-killing. Hearing all this, you might be able to guess what Johns’ mother did for a living, and what color her hair was. She was a redheaded prostitute. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here.

In pitch darkness, shortly after 2AM, Jane Doe #7 stumbled into the median of I-40, near Junction 58, in Kingston, Tennessee. The strangling had ruptured the blood vessels in her eyes and rendered her virtually blind, though only temporarily. Her hearing was also damaged by the astronomical physical stress of her murder. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here.

[Part 4] When you were in school you probably had class projects. You made terrariums and did that thing with a papier-mâché volcano filled with Mentos and Coca-Cola. If you were lucky you got to dissect a pinecone or two, or maybe even a worm if you lived in the right district. A class project of a different sort, led by fearless innovator (and now friend) Alex Campbell, changed this investigation yet again when he and his class of high schoolers – yes, high schoolers, worked with an FBI profiler to establish that we did in fact have a serial killer on our hands. They also provided a name for our killer – the Bible Belt Strangler. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Episode Sponsors: -Download the 5 star rated mobile puzzle game Best Fiends FREE today on the App Store or Google Play -Start feeling better with a single message. Match with a licensed therapist when you go to talkspace.com and get $100 off your first month with promo code FOUL -Get key nutrients - without the BS. Ritual is offering my listeners 10% off during your first 3 months at ritual.com/foul

[Part 3] After Shane started researching the case of the Barbourville Jane Doe, and sharing this story on Foul Play, smaller newspapers around the Bible belt began reviving the story. Crime bloggers began writing about it online. Encouraged by this surge of interest, I called up a dear friend of mine who is a fellow investigator, Gemma Hoskins, and discussed some of the ways in which we might draw yet more attention to the case. Her suggestion was simple, but it touched on something that would soon change the face of our investigation: create a Facebook page to share information. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here.

“Lot lizards” - that’s what they call them. The kind of prostitutes who work truck stops and trailer parks. These are not the high-end rent girls of Abu Dhabi. These are blue collar, minimum wage hustlers closer to the Hollywood stereotype of the rustbelt hooker. You know the one – she has a heart of gold and a drug problem, high heels, a leopard print skirt, and probably some red lipstick and a C-section scar. The term “Lot Lizard” was coined by a comedian in the 1970s and took off from there. Even if you take offense at the sneering attitude of this label, you have to admit it has a kind of ring to it. It might make you think of leathery old women prowling parking lots past their sexual prime and willing to do anything for a buck. More fundamentally, it evokes the image of a slimy predator lurking in the sunlight and looking to draw unsuspecting flies into its mouth. But these women, and sometimes men, are less predator than prey. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here.

This new series details the investigation of the Redhead Murders, including details of how Shane got involved all the way to identifying the serial killer and 3 of his Jane Doe victims. You will get an insiders look inside the mind of this serial killer, learn how easy it was in the 80s to be trafficked, and hear from a woman who was once known as a 'Lot Lizard.' It involves murder, betrayal, prostitution, investigation, and threats. I hope by the end of the series it will help change the public's perception of people living on the fringe of society. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here.

Gemma and Shane interview Richter's Medical Assistant, who shares details from her time working for Dr. Christian Richter.  You may recall that Father Maskell allegedly took students he was sexually abusing to Dr. Richter for abortions.  *Trigger Warning for survivors* Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Shane and Gemma discuss the unsolved murder of Pamela Lynn Conyers with Pam's niece Ingrid. Detectives believe Pamela's murder may be related to the murder of Sister Cathy and Joyce. Pamela Lynn Conyers attended Glen Burnie High School's homecoming bonfire and pep rally on Oct. 16, 1970. She later drove her family's 1967 Dodge Monaco to the Harundale Mall in Glen Burnie, the last place she would be seen alive before her body was found in a wooded area between the eastbound and westbound lanes of Maryland 177. It is presently known as Route 100 near the Waterford Road and Route 648 overpass. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

(Part 2) I’ve been receiving requests from some of you to release the three podcasts I created years ago on the 1964 unsolved murder of Beverly Jarosz. These 3 episodes were released when the podcast was still called American Crimecast. You will hear interviews from Beverly’s sister Carol along with her mother Eleanor. I am very saddened to share that Eleanor has since passed away. Beverly Jarosz was slain in her Garfield Heights, Ohio home on December 28th, 1964. An unknown person made the decision to end this 16 year old's life by strangling her with a rope, and viciously stabbing her 42 times. On this Part 2 episode we will be speaking with an expert and discussing who we feel may have murdered Beverly.  Our #1 Suspect: Harry Joseph Madol. Several reasons and the history of Madol is revealed in this episode.  Featuring a reading of a Medium who lead us to find Madol as our primary suspect. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

(Part 3) I’ve been receiving requests from some of you to release the three podcasts I created years ago on the 1964 unsolved murder of Beverly Jarosz. These 3 episodes were early in the podcast, and it was under the name American Crimecast. You will hear interviews from Beverly’s sister Carol along with her mother Eleanor. I am very saddened to share that Eleanor has since passed away. On the 52nd Anniversary of Beverly Jarosz's 1964 Garfield Heights, Ohio Murder - we interview the Lead Detective in Beverly's case. GHPD Detective Carl Biecki provides an insight on the case, discussing avenues explored in 1952, 2003, and today. Together with case-expert Diane McClellan and Detective Carl Biecki we further explore our leading suspect Harry Joseph Madol. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here.

(Part 1) I’ve been receiving requests from some of you to release the three podcasts I created years ago on the 1964 unsolved murder of Beverly Jarosz. These 3 episodes were among early in the podcast, and it was under the name American Crimecast. You will hear interviews from Beverly’s sister Carol along with her mother Eleanor. I am very saddened to share that Eleanor has since passed away. On December 28th, 1964, sixteen year old high school junior Beverly Jarosz was slain in her home in Garfield Heights, Ohio.  Almost 52 years later we sat down with her family. This is her story. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here.

(Part 2) Shane and Gemma did their first LIVE on-the-air podcast, take a listen as they answer questions and clarify a few things in relation to Sister Cathy's case! Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

(Part 1) Shane and Gemma did their first LIVE on-the-air podcast, take a listen as they answer questions and clarify a few things in relation to Sister Cathy's case! Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Shane and Gemma Hoskins from Netflix's The Keepers sit down with a former student and friend of Sister Russell's to discuss some of her experiences, interactions, and memories. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Shane and Gemma Hoskins from Netflix's The Keepers discuss the consequences of surviving childhood sexual abuse with an abuse Survivor named Erin. Erin has suffered tremendously from addiction that she traces back to how she learned to cope with her abuse. Stick around for the end of the episode where Shane and Gemma discuss an unfortunate death to someone they have spoken to while creating this podcast series to further the investigation of Sister Cathy's murder and also helping to bring awareness to sexual abuse of children. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Harry has now recanted his confession, claiming it was made under duress. He was beaten and kept awake. He states that he confessed because all he wanted to do was sleep. However, with the amount of evidence against him, he would still end up in front of a Jury. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here.

In one of the numerous trunks confiscated from the Powers home, something caught their attention. A bankbook that belonged to Mrs. Dorothy Pressler Lemke, North Uxbridge Mass. Police made inquiries to the Worcester Police and they ended up interviewing Mr and Mrs Charles Flemming, Dorothy’s brother in law and her sister. She identified Powers by his picture.“That’s the man my sister Dorothy took away to marry.” She said he went by the name of D. P Lowther, from Virginia . “Dorothy told me she was writing that matrimonial agency for a thrill. I warned her of the dangers but she just laughed.” Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here.

The first of April is widely regarded as an unofficial holiday reserved for pranks and hoaxes that seem too ridiculous to be believed yet are surprisingly enough to fool several hundreds of people. The pages of history are littered with such incidents, from claims of a flying saucer to news reports of a shocking theft.  For decades now, individuals – and even, reputable organizations – have been trying to outdo each other with the craziest yet most believable tales. These may not always result in laughs, but they do make for pretty good stories! In this episode, we’ll dive into three of the strangest pranks to have ever been carried out on April Fools’ Day. Given how outlandish they were, it’s hard to believe that they managed to fool thousands of people across the world! Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here.

This episode begins after the grisly discovery of Asta Eicher and her three children’s remains at the Garage of Harry Powers; who is currently in custody at the Clarksburg West Virginia Police Department. He said he knew nothing about their deaths. Mobs surrounded the stations, angry wanting to lynch Harry for his crimes. “Bring the man out!” they shouted angrily. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here.

An arrest warrant was issued for Cornelius Pierson, who turned out to be Harry F. Powers of Clarksburg, West Virginia. Catfishing is a term most people recognize today as someone who pretends to be someone else - most of the time when meeting over online dating sites. It seems Harry learned to hunt his prey by catfishing over the letters he would write. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here.

In this day and age, the chance at finding love has never been easier. It’s literally in the palm of your hand. The internet has opened the door to so many possibilities, online dating websites such as Match.com, eHarmony. Many using mobile dating apps such as Tinder, where you can swipe left or right on a potential match. When meeting someone you’ve been only talking online, or messages, in their case, by mail. The warning is this:  When you first meet someone you never know what their true intentions are. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here.

On November 5, 1990, Ghislaine Maxwell flew to New York to hand deliver an envelope for her Father. What she did not know was that this envelope was part of a plot, that Robert Maxwell had initiated to steal $200m from the shareholders of Berlitz Corporation. Exactly a year later his naked body would be found floating in the Atlantic. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here.

The Maxwell family were initially poor but as Robert Maxwell’s empire grew, so did the families wealth, and in 1959 they moved into Headington Hill Hall in Oxford, which they rented from Oxford City Council. Headington Hill Hall was a huge, imposing building, with the oldest part of the building dating back to 1824. The house was originally built for a local brewing family, called the Morrell’s.  Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here.

You've no doubt heard about the infamous sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, and his association with British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell. Ghislaine worked for her father, the publishing tycoon Robert Maxwell, until his mysterious death in 1991, when she relocated to the US and became associated with Epstein. The Maxwell family has a very interesting story, and we are here to tell it. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here.

During this season we have not only told you about those that we know were victims of the Speed Freak Killers, we have also included some unsolved cases that are believed to be attributed to Shermantine and Herzog. Can you imagine living minute after minute, hour after hour, day after day, year after year, not knowing what happened to your Parent, your sibling, your child or your friend?

In 2014, Miss Shelley and her daughters sued the county of San Joaquin, Sheriff Steve Moore in his official capacity as Sheriff, and Steve Moore individually for the way that the remains of Jo Ann Hobson were handled. They asked for damages due to negligence and emotional stress. 

Following the dig at the well site, Leonard Padilla tried to get Shermantine out of prison to show them the exact spot where other sites were so that more digs could happen. Bounty Hunter, Rob Dick, tells us what happened next.

Shane & Gemma reunite to chat with a new friend of Gemma's - who shares with us the story of her English teacher and mentor that was murdered in Maryland. Stay tuned for more episodes that we are working on for Sister Cathy's case! You can find her book on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1628062762/ Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

The huge maps that Shermantine was drawing WERE accurate, it was time to look into other locations that he had marked. It was time to bring home the other missing people, to end this horrendous ordeal for those other families that had spent years not knowing what happened to their loved ones.Surely, with the assistance of Shermantine and his maps, along with the correct resources, this should be relatively simple, shouldn’t it?

As you know from earlier episodes, there are many missing people in the area where Shermantine and Herzog lived who are suspected to be victims of the pair. But their killing spree wasn’t contained to the Linden area of California, they are thought to have committed heinous crimes in each and every state they visited on their various hunting trips.In this episode, we will be telling you about two ladies who are believed to be victims of the Speed Freak Killers.

Happy Halloween from the Foul Play team! This special bonus episode includes the history of Halloween and how different cultures celebrate it. Of course, any good Halloween episode wouldn't be complete with some creepy true stories...

While researching for The maps we have come across the same thing time and time again. Issues with law enforcement in the area, shady stories from within law enforcement,  families feeling like things were being brushed under the carpet, and families feeling like they were being targeted if they made a complaint or raised any concerns.

In February 2012 Cyndi Vanderheiden and Chevy Wheeler's remains were recovered and the families could finally put their daughters to rest. After everything they had been through, surely, this was the end of their nightmare, wasn’t it?

After years of not knowing where Wes and Loren dumped the remains of Cyndi and Chevy, finally convicted serial killer Wesley Shermantine draws a detailed map of where they could be found. 

Convicted serial killer Loren Herzog was paroled from prison on September 18th, 2010 after serving a reduced 14-year sentence. The circumstances leading up to and after his parol is shocking, join us as we share the unbelievable details.

In this episode, Gemma Hoskins reads a chapter out of her new book "Keeping On". You can find the book for purchase here: https://mascotbooks.com/mascot-marketplace/buy-books/nonfiction/bios-and-memoirs/keeping-on/Book Description: Fifty years ago, beloved teacher Sister Catherine Cesnik was the victim of a brutal unsolved murder. Ever since then, her students, colleagues, friends, and family have all been asking the same question: who killed Sister Cathy? Gemma Hoskins is one of Sister Cathy’s formers students. She appeared on The Keepers, the 2017 Emmy-nominated Netflix docuseries that had the world also wondering what happened to Sister Cathy. Gemma has been both deeply inspired and haunted by Sister Cathy’s life and death, leading her to decide to make her life’s purpose to uncover what really happened that November night in 1969. In Keeping On, Gemma takes readers on a journey of her life, from her time as Sister Cathy’s student at Archbishop Keough High School through present day. She reflects upon the experiences that have shaped her, including her personal experience as a teacher, grassroots investigator, and fierce advocate for truth and justice. Gemma openly continues the search for the truth behind Sister Cathy’s murder, but also reflects upon how Sister Cathy’s life profoundly impacted those who knew and loved her. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Join Shane and Wendy as they discuss accusations of ethics violations at the Sheriff's Office under Sheriff Baxter Dunn (1991-2005) and Sheriff Steve Moore (2009-2019) with the current Sheriff Pat Withrow.

Shane and Wendy sit down with Paul Holes to discuss his experience with San Joaquin, California, and general information about Serial Killers. Paul became familiar with this area while investigating the Golden State Killer. 

On July 31, 2001, jury selection began in Herzog's murder trial. The trial was also held in Santa Clara County, due to the notoriety of the pair and concerns that it would not be a fair trial otherwise. After two weeks of deliberations, the jury returned with 3 counts of murder for Cyndi Vanderheiden, Paul Cavanaugh, and Howard King - and for being an accessory to the murder of Henry Howell. On December 10th, 2001, Herzog was sentenced to 78 years in state prison.

Shane and Gemma are joined with Behavior Detection Analyst Mike again to discuss more deceptive behavior observed in Netflix's The Keepers. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Wesley Shermantine's trial started in Santa Clara County on November 22, 2000. Shermantine was charged with four murders - Howard King, Paul Cavanaugh, Chevy Wheeler, and Cyndi Vanderheiden. 

Gemma organized a Zoom meeting with many key players of Netflix's docu-series The Keepers's - along with many people you've heard from in our podcast so far. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

This is the second half of our discussion with the professional Behavior Detection Analyst. We listen and process through Loren Herzog's interview from February 1st, 1999 (second part) along with his later arrest and interrogation from March 1999. We also process Wesley Shermantine's interrogation from March 1999. The video interrogations are posted on our Facebook podcast discussion group.

With the help of a professional Behavior Detection Analyst, we listen and process through Loren Herzog's first police interrogation from November 20th, 1998, as well as the first part of his police interrogation from February 1st, 1999.

Rob Dick and Leonard Padilla are Bounty Hunters who got involved in the Speed Freak Killers case very early on. Without their involvement the maps never would have been drawn, and the locations of the remains of most victims would still not be known.  We also introduce the missing person case of Gayle Marks. Gayle went missing at 18 years old, and at the time was 5'4" and weighed 110 pounds. Gayle is caucasian with naturally blonde hair and blue eyes. She has not been seen since 10/18/1988.

In this episode, we will be talking about Cyndi Vanderheiden. Cyndi was the last known victim of the Speed Freak Killers as they were both arrested shortly after her disappearance. You will also be presented with the missing person case of Phillip Cabot Lloyd Martin. Phillip went missing on September 30th, 1993, and is believed to be a possible victim of Shermantine and Herzog.

October 16th, 1985, Chevy Wheeler disappeared after telling friends she was going to be skipping school with Wesley Shermantine. Chevy's mother Paula describes the last day she saw Chevy, and the events that lead up to her disappearance. Twenty-seven years after she went missing, Chevy is finally found in a shallow grave.

Shane and Gemma sit down with Michael Salter to discuss the False Memory Syndrome Foundation and the reasons behind why they shut down at the end of 2019. Michael Salter an associate professor of criminology at the University of New South Wales in Sydney, Australia. He has been appointed as a fellow, and most of his time is focused on research. He has been researching the mental health impacts of organized abuse for the last 15 years.  Michael is involved with the International Society for the Study of Trauma and Dissociation. The group was formed in the mid 1980s by clinicians and therapists who were encountering severely traumatized children and adults in mental health settings. An expert on the complex trauma, Michael discusses the work of the ISTD, an organization dedicated to educating therapists and clinicians on how to work effectively with clients who have experienced complex trauma. 

Jo Ann Hobson and Robin Armtrout disappeared from Stockton in August 1985. Robin's body was found within a week, she had been sexually assaulted and stabbed more than 40 times. Jo Ann's disappearance remained a mystery until Wesley Shermantine drew a map of the location of a well where her remains were located. If you have any information about these cases, please contact us. You can remain anonymous if you wish itsfoulplay.com.

All seemed well in and around the community of Linden, California, in the early 1980s. Methamphetamine made its way into the life of many impressionable young people as they navigated a social life outside of High School. It's not uncommon for two best friends to enjoy hunting, but unbeknownst to the community, Wesley Shermantine and Loren Herzog decided they would start hunting people. Their reign of terror spanned for 15 years and their victim count is estimated conservatively at 60 people. How did the two serial killers get away with dozens of murders for so long? Why did the two evolve from hunting animals to humans? Who fell victim to their torture? Join us as we dive deep into the case. If you have any information about these cases, please contact us. You can remain anonymous if you wish: Shane@itsfoulplay.com.

Shane and Gemma sit down with an expert behavioral detection analyst who analyzes interviews with key figures surrounding Sister Cathy's case.  **Correction to the episode: Timestamp referenced to Dr. Richter is on Episode 4 of The Keepers Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Shane and Gemma sit down with an expert behavioral detection analyst who analyzes interviews with key figures surrounding Sister Cathy's case. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

[Part 2] In Annapolis Maryland on Feb 20th survivors Teresa Lancaster and Jean Wehner joined other survivors and experts to speak at a hearing to state committee members on why the Hidden Predator Act of 2020 should be passed. This act would eliminate the statute of limitations for abuse victims, allowing them to have their day in civil court to expose their abuser. Last year this act passed the Maryland House, but failed in the Senate. This year, they continue their fight for survivors in Maryland. The full hearing is around two hours long, so we will release them one after another. During this first part the panel, consisting of survivors and experts, will speak to the committee members. After each panel speaks, the committee members ask questions prior to the next panel. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

In Annapolis, Maryland on Feb 20th survivors Teresa Lancaster and Jean Wehner joined other survivors and experts to speak at a hearing to state committee members on why the Hidden Predator Act of 2020 should be passed. This act would eliminate the statute of limitations for abuse victims, allowing them to have their day in civil court to expose their abuser. Last year this act passed the Maryland House but failed in the Senate. This year, they continue their fight for survivors in Maryland. The full hearing is around two hours long, so we will release them one after another. During this first part the panel, consisting of survivors and experts, will speak to the committee members. There are 3 panels in this first episode, with Jean speaking in the last one. After each panel speaks, the committee members ask questions prior to the next panel. Next week’s episode will include Teresa Lancaster. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

[Part 3] Gemma and Shane discuss different aspects of the case, along with answering questions submitted by listeners. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

[Part 2] Gemma and Shane discuss different aspects of the case, along with answering questions submitted by listeners. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Gemma and Shane discuss different aspects of the case, along with answering questions submitted by listeners. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Shane and Gemma discuss ways to speak to children about abuse, and how to possibly recognize non-verbal signs/indications of possible abuse.  Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

CAUTION: This episode contains graphic forensic content. Gemma discusses Sister Cathy's case with Forensic Pathologist Dr. Werner Spitz, who was the Medical Examiner for Baltimore when Cathy was murdered. Dr. Spitz has worked on a number of high-profile cases, including the investigations of the assassinations of President John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King, Jr. He also testified at the trials of Casey Anthony and Phil Spector, the 1996 civil trial against O.J. Simpson, and consulted on the investigation of JonBenet Ramsey's 1996 death. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

[Part 4] Shane sits down for an in-depth Four-part podcast to examine the case with Investigative Journalist Tom Nugent. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

[Part 2] Shane sits down for an in-depth four-part podcast to examine the case with Investigative Journalist Tom Nugent. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

[Part 2] Shane sits down for an in-depth four-part podcast to examine the case with Investigative Journalist Tom Nugent. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Shane sits down for an in-depth four-part podcast to examine the case with Investigative Journalist Tom Nugent. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

50 years ago today, at approximately 7 pm Eastern Time, Sister Cathy would leave her Carriage House Apartment for the very last time. The world has become aware of Cathy’s tragic fate that night - so today Gemma and I ask you to take a moment to remember Cathy. You see, Cathy was a real person, with dreams and goals of her own. On November 7th, 1969 Cathy’s life was taken - but her memory lives strongly in those whose lives she touched. These are some of those memories… Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Shane and Gemma sit down to discuss the day Hunter George found Sister Cathy's remains. This is the first time Hunter George has been questioned about the case since that day in 1970. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

{Part 2} Shane and Gemma sit down with Journalist Tom Nugent to discuss his role in Netflix's docu-series "The Keepers" along with Sister Cathy's case. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Shane and Gemma sit down with Journalist Tom Nugent to discuss his role in Netflix's docu-series "The Keepers" along with Sister Cathy's case. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

[Part 2] Gemma and Shane sit down with Sr. Rose Pacatte to discuss Sr. Cathy leaving the convent and her status at the time she was murdered.Sr. Rose Pacatte, a member of the Daughters of St. Paul, is the founding Director of the Pauline Center for Media Studies in Los Angeles.She is an award-winning film journalist and author or co-author of fifteen titles on film, film, and scripture and media literacy education. She has a Masters of Education in Media Studies from the University of London and is a D.Min candidate. You can learn more about her at www.sisterrosemovies.net. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Gemma and Shane sit down with Sr. Rose Pacatte to discuss Sr. Cathy leaving the convent and her status at the time she was murdered. Sr. Rose Pacatte, a member of the Daughters of St. Paul, is the founding Director of the Pauline Center for Media Studies in Los Angeles.She is an award-winning film journalist and author or co-author of fifteen titles on film, film, and scripture and media literacy education. She has a Master's of Education in Media Studies from the University of London and is a D.Min candidate. You can learn more about her at www.sisterrosemovies.net. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

During last week’s conversation with MKUltra Survivor, we discussed briefly some of the documents the CIA released that touched slightly on their psychological testing done under MKUltra. What I am about to read to you is a redacted CIA document from 1951, two children were used in the experiment and the document explains both are young girls. Although this document does not talk about sexual testing, please be advised that what you are about to hear may be triggering if you are a survivor. This document is proof of one type of testing the CIA did on children involving being in a trance and ensuring their subjects had complete amnesia. *** TRIGGER WARNING *** Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Shane and Gemma further their discussion with MKUltra Survivor Lynn, who links the CIA program with Gynecologist Dr. Christian Richter and Maskell's abuse ring. ***** TRIGGER WARNING ****** Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Join Shane and Gemma as they discuss the MKUltra program with survivor Lynn, who also is able to link the program with the Gynecologist Dr. Christian Richter.  ** Trigger Warning ** Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

** Trigger Warning ** Part 2 of our conversation with Dr. Ross.Could Fr. Maskell have been a part of the CIA Program MKUltra? Shane and Gemma sit down with Dr. Colin Ross to discuss the CIA program MKUltra as well as memory. Dr. Ross is an internationally renowned clinician, researcher, author, and lecturer in the field of dissociation and trauma-related disorders. He is the founder and President of The Colin A. Ross Institute for Psychological Trauma. Dr. Ross has authored 29 books and over 200 professional papers, has reviewed for numerous professional journals and grant agencies, and is a past President of the International Society for the Study of Trauma and Dissociation. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Could Fr. Maskell have been a part of the CIA Program MKUltra? Shane and Gemma sit down with Dr. Colin Ross to discuss the CIA program MKUltra as well as memory. Dr. Ross is an internationally renowned clinician, researcher, author, and lecturer in the field of dissociation and trauma-related disorders. He is the founder and President of The Colin A. Ross Institute for Psychological Trauma. Dr. Ross has authored 29 books and over 200 professional papers, has reviewed for numerous professional journals and grant agencies, and is a past President of the International Society for the Study of Trauma and Dissociation.

This is the second part of our discussion with Attorney Beverly Wallace.Gemma and Shane sit down with Attorney Beverly Wallace to discuss her role in the 90s "Doe Roe" trial where she represented Jean Wehner in her case against Fr Maskell, Dr. Richter, SSND, and the Archdiocese of Baltimore.

Gemma and Shane sit down with Attorney Beverly Wallace to discuss her role in the 90s "Doe Roe" trial where she represented Jean Wehner in her case against Fr Maskell, Dr. Richter, SSND, and the Archdiocese of Baltimore. Join us next week for the last half of the discussion!

Final Part 3 : Jean Wehner talks about how they believe Father Maskell had a black book of everyone he took advantage of, and that he was very smart in the way he manipulated people. She also discusses how he used a Polaroid camera to take pictures of his victims, which he would then use to blackmail them.  Shane, Gemma, Dr. Lacter, and Jean discuss the anger that Father Maskell may have felt after Cathy mentioned that she knew about the abuse. They also discuss the possibility that an abuser could resort to murder, and that repressed memory is a real psychological phenomenon. 

Part 2 : Dr. Ellen Lacter, Ph.D mostly understands abusers through working with victims. In her direct work with abusers, she has found that they often do not have good insight into why they abuse. Abuse is usually a last ditch attempt at psychological survival for the abuser. The survivors of sexual abuse often have a difficult time dealing with the anger they feel towards their abuser. This is because the abuser often takes on the role of a protector, which can make it hard for the survivor to see them as anything other than that.  The survivor often has to work through their own Stockholm Syndrome in order to come to terms with the abuse they endured. Jean Wehner joins Gemma, Shane, and Dr. Lacter to describe her experiences with sexual abuse at the hands of a priest, Father Maskell. They describe how Maskell would groom his victims and make them feel special, while also trying to make them believe that he was protecting them from other people finding out about the abuse. 

Shane and Gemma sit down with Ellen Lacter, Ph.D., Licensed Clinical Psychologist to discuss extreme abuse and how it can impact victim-survivors and their memories. Joining us on this multiple part episode discussion is Jean Wehner, also known as Jane Doe during the mid-90s lawsuit. Dr. Ellen Lacter is an activist against extreme abuse and a lot of therapists come to her for help, information, and guidance. She is trying to help therapists, the public, and law enforcement to understand and fight against extreme abuse. This conversation is about the different levels of abuse, with extreme abuse being the most severe.  Dr. Lacter explains that extreme abuse can include torture, networked abuse, and very calculated abuse. She also discusses how therapists can become more knowledgeable about dissociative disorders and extreme abuse. The definition of extreme abuse includes any deliberate attempt to manipulate the mind of a victim so that they do not remember what happened, or to prevent them from ever telling anyone. This might include torture, threats, or using murder victims as an example of what could happen if the victim speaks out. Ritual abuse is a type of extreme abuse that often involves satanic worship.

Gemma and Shane sit down with two long time listeners who are very active in the Foul Play discussion group to discuss some new information recently learned. Sister Cathy was a teacher at Western High School when she went missing, which is part of a complex in Baltimore City. Juliana was one of her students. The two became friends, and Juliana has agreed to share information about that day and herself, but prefers not to speak on a recording.    Gemma clarifies that Sister Cathy was no longer at Keough when she was abducted, and that contrary to popular opinion, Cathy did not wear a uniform at Western High School, though there was a dress code. In 1969, Juliana spoke to her English teacher, Cathy Cesnik, after class. Cathy mentioned that she was going shopping that evening to buy an engagement gift, and Juliana was unable to go with her.  Juliana didn't know that Cathy was missing until Sunday night on the news. She further shares what played out after Cathy disappeared and when her remains were found.

Gemma and Shane sit down to discuss the details surrounding Joyce Malecki's unsolved murder case with Joyce's family. Joyce's family describes her as a good person with no enemies. They were shocked when she was murdered and still have no idea know is responsible. Joyce was last seen alive by her brother when she left to switch cars with a friend. Her plans for the night were unknown, but she had told her mother where she was going. 

Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters sit down with Mary Spence, a former Keough student who overheard a man yelling loudly from the direction of Cathy's apartment building around the time Cathy could have made it back from shopping. Mary Spence also talks about how she met Gemma in elementary school, and how Gemma's mother motivated her to become a great teacher. Mary also talks about how the first time she ever kissed a boy was in Gemma's basement. 

Shane and Gemma explore Baltimore, specifically at the places of importance to Sister Cathy and Joyce's cases. The audio from this episode was recorded remotely along streets and in woods so be prepared for noise from passing traffic and stubborn wind. Sharon describes the home where her father and uncle, including Billy, were raised, and notes that it is now in disrepair. She talks about the woods where sister Cathy's body was found, saying that they were much thicker when she was younger. She notes that the only people around at the time were two young boys who lived in the house next door, and some kids up the street. Billy grew up near where Cathy was found. Cathy was found almost 1000 feet or one eight of a mile from Billy's childhood home. 

This week Gemma and Shane sat down to discuss the crazy Kelly the box girl scenario we reminded you of last week when we searched all over the world for a box of evidence. Our special guest is who we later found out to be a victim in this scam - and who we referred to as Jane the phone lady when we first presented the episode last week. Make sure you have already re-listened to last week's episode! Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Many of you have been reaching out asking where you can find two episodes Gemma and I have referenced in the podcast a few times on Kelly the Box Girl. In February of 2018, Gemma and I worked together to chase a promising lead after The Keepers was released. The two episodes are really far back in the podcast’s archives so to help listeners find it we decided to release the two episodes combined for this week’s episode in our Sister Cathy series. What you are about to hear is a series of odd events that resulted in us trying to track down a box of what seemed to be very important evidence. Stick around to the very end to hear our conclusion.

A few weeks ago we shared that House Bill 687, also known as The Hidden Predator Act of 2019, was being sponsored by CT Wilson. House Delegate Wilson’s Bill would end Maryland’s statute of limitations for civil claims against perpetrators of child sex abuse - and would also include a 2 year look-back window, a time which victims could bring claims in cases where the previous statute of limitations has expired. If you’ve seen The Keepers, you will remember Delegate Wilson speaking on his experience as a survivor and how hard it is to pass laws that the Archdiocese fights against. This week we want you to hear Delegate Wilson’s speech as well as the back and forth in Annapolis, Maryland in March at the Judicial Proceedings Committee. 1 in 4 girls and 1 in 6 boys are sexually abused in the United States - and to this day most still have not disclosed their abuse publicly. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

In Maryland Shane and Gemma sit down to discuss the Cemetery dig that uncovered a large room-sized hole in the ground that Fr Maskell used to hide documents and photos. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Shane and Gemma sit down in Gemma's kitchen to discuss the entirety of the timeline surrounding Sister Cathy's case. From the life and death of Fr Maskell, to the time leading and after Cathy's disappearance - we hope this episode will let you know a clearer picture of the sequence of events. This is part 2 of the conversation. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Shane and Gemma sit down in Gemma's kitchen to discuss the entirety of the timeline surrounding Sister Cathy's case. From the life and death of Fr Maskell, to the time leading and after Cathy's disappearance - we hope this episode will let you know a clearer picture of the sequence of events. This is part 1 of the conversation. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Shane travels to the Baltimore area for a week - recording many episodes including this one in Greenbelt, MD with Survivor Teresa and call-in with Survivor Donna.

Gemma and Shane discuss the case, as well as answer questions that listeners have sent in.

This is part 2 of our discussion with Lil.

Around the same time Sister Cathy went missing in 1969, Father Maskell started looking for a confidential secretary. Student Lil Hughes (Knipp) agreed to fill this position. Some episode corrections: Lil has 7 siblings, not 8. Her dad was in the service but was home for Christmas. When Lil mentioned that those who work in a private school has access to a lot of information, she would like to clarify that files are kept confidential HOWEVER she believes Fr Maskell bullied the nuns at the school and acted as though he was the person in charge. This provided him with access to private and confidential information on students.

In last week’s interview with Sean Caine from the Archdiocese of Baltimore - one of the subjects we discussed was when abuse allegations against Father Maskell first happened. Caine says according to their documents the first accusations were in the 90s when Jean Wehner came forward during the Doe/Roe lawsuit. When asked about Charles’ statement that his mother went to the diocese when he as being abused, Caine said they have no documentation of it happening. What we know is that after Charles’ mother found out, Maskell was moved. Now we bring you the story of another who says they too reported the abuse - which resulted in Fr Maskell being removed from Archbishop Keough High School. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Part 2: The following interview is with the Vice-Chancellor of the Archdiocese of Baltimore. We will release this interview in two parts, and there have been no edits or production added to the interview. If you are a survivor of clergy abuse in Baltimore, please take caution when listening as this could be a trigger. This is the first time we have been able to sit down for a discussion with the Archdiocese, so please remember as a journalist, I will be remaining respectful but determined.  Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Part 1: The following interview is with the Vice-Chancellor of the Archdiocese of Baltimore. We will release this interview in two parts. If you are a survivor of clergy abuse in Baltimore, please take caution when listening as this could be a trigger. This is the first time we have been able to sit down for a discussion with the Archdiocese, so please remember as a journalist, I will be remaining respectful but determined.  Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Part 2: We continue our conversation with Sharon Bush - she explained she was present in the apartment shortly before Sister Cathy disappeared. Later that night Sister Russell, Sharon’s best friend, called her worried that Cathy never returned. Early the next morning Sharon made her way to their apartment, being confronted by Sister Russell and a detective once she made it inside the apartment. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Part 1: I’ve seen it before, a cold case stays unsolved until someone comes forward with information they thought was unimportant. It’s an important lesson to learn - if you know anything, no matter how insignificant and small you think it may be, it may be an important piece to the larger puzzle. We have thought for a long time that surely Cathy’s friend and roommate Sister Russell must have known of the abuse at Keough - and wondered if they ever told the police. Now - we have a first-hand eye witness account of the man in the trench coat. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.com You can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplay Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Part 2: Joining Gemma and Shane for a two-part episode in our series on the unsolved murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik is Ryan White and Jean Wehner. Ryan White is the director of Netflix The Keepers and provides an insight on the making of the docu-series and speaks to the aftermath of its release. Jean Wehner was the first survivor to come forward in the 90s which resulted in her being known as Jane Doe during the trial against Maskell and the Baltimore AOB. Jean Wehner's book Conversations with My Self: A Collections of Poems referenced in this episode can be found on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Conversations-My-Self-Collection-Poems/dp/1974010066 Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Joining Gemma and Shane for a two part episode in our series on the unsolved murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik is Ryan White and Jean Wehner. Ryan White is the director of Netflix's The Keepers and provides an insight on the making of the docu-series and speaks to the aftermath of its release. Jean Wehner was the first survivor to come forward in the 90s which resulted in her being known as Jane Doe during the trial against Maskell and the Baltimore AOB. Jean Wehner's book Conversations with My Self: A Collections of Poems' referenced in this episode can be found on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Conversations-My-Self-Collection-Poems/dp/1974010066 Correction: The judge Jean speaks of is named Hilary Caplan. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.com You can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplay Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

This special episode features hosts Shane and Gemma discussing the details that have led them here. We will return on January 8th with an interview with Jean (aka Jane Doe) and Ryan White (director) of Netflix's Docu-Series The Keepers. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

This episode is dedicated to teachers and their students. Teachers, stay vigilant because you never know. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

This week’s guest has a unique insight into both Cathy and Russell’s personalities. They were her teachers, and later her friends. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Dr. Lee Richmond was a professor of Education at Loyola University Maryland in the area of school counseling. She is a licensed psychologist in the state of Maryland and is well known for her knowledge in counseling. Dr. Richmond is also uniquely qualified to tell us about her friendship with a previous post-master student of hers at Loyola - someone we know as Father Joseph Maskell. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Please be advised this episode contains content and language that is graphic in nature, listener discretion is strongly advised. Where were you at in life at the age of 13? Personally, I remember being in 8th grade using my free time to binge read Harry Potter books. Charles Franz had a much different experience… For more than 5 years Charles fell victim to a predator - someone he knew as Father Joseph Maskell. You have heard from female survivors so far in this series, but Maskell’s reign of terror wasn’t limited to gender or age. Charles is an amazing person, we thank him for sharing his story with us. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

This special episode consists of Gemma and Shane answering questions many listeners have sent in about this case. We have several very eye-opening interviews coming up so stay tuned! Join Shane Waters and The Keepers' Gemma Hoskins in this series, along with many of the women and men featured in the the Netflix series. This is an ongoing series. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters, you can find his history podcast Hometown History at https://link.chtbl.com/hometownhistory Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets: https://link.chtbl.com/foulplay Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Podcaster Brooke Gittings joins us to discuss her knowledge of the assistant state attorney Sharon May. This is an episode you do not want to miss! Join Shane Waters and The Keepers' Gemma Hoskins in this series, along with many of the women and men featured in the the Netflix series. This is an ongoing series. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters, you can find his history podcast Hometown History at https://link.chtbl.com/hometownhistory Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets: https://link.chtbl.com/foulplay Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Sharon’s uncle Billy happens to live in the apartment complex, granting him access to always being able to know when Cathy enters and leaves. He could easily be seen as someone who wouldn’t bring attention to himself for lingering around the place while waiting for Cathy to return home from shopping. And conveniently her car is later dropped just around the corner to his patio door. Sharon joins us again to talk more about her Uncle Billy - I will leave it up to you to decide what is more than just a coincidence. Join Shane Waters and The Keepers' Gemma Hoskins in this series, along with many of the women and men featured in the the Netflix series. This is an ongoing series. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters, you can find his history podcast Hometown History at https://link.chtbl.com/hometownhistory Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets: https://link.chtbl.com/foulplay Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Although several victims of Father Maskell came forward in the 90s, Sharon May at the prosecuting office refused to go forward with charges. Many questions arose as to why​ in 'The Keepers' Sharon May suggested she just didn’t think she had enough to convict him of charges… more on this later. When criminal charges were going nowhere, two women, who choose to keep their identity secret, came forward to sue in civil court: Jane Doe and Jane Roe. Join Shane Waters and The Keepers' Gemma Hoskins in this series, along with many of the women and men featured in the the Netflix series. This is an ongoing series. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters, you can find his history podcast Hometown History at https://link.chtbl.com/hometownhistory Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets: https://link.chtbl.com/foulplay Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Today you are going to hear from a very brave survivor who wasn’t featured in The Keepers. Michele Stanton can link Edgar Davison with Officer James Scannell, a very important connection. We know already of Father Maskell’s strong ties to the police department, it's starting to get harder to doubt the involvement of this monster whom seems to have always been lurking in the shadows. Join Shane Waters and The Keepers' Gemma Hoskins in this series, along with many of the women and men featured in the the Netflix series. This is an ongoing series. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters, you can find his history podcast Hometown History at https://link.chtbl.com/hometownhistory Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets: https://link.chtbl.com/foulplay Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

This episode may not be appropriate for all listeners. Details about sexual abuse will be discussed - listener discretion is advised. Now a Nurse Practitioner, Donna Vondenbosch was ritually abused by Father Joseph Maskell. After years of abuse, Maskell also left Donna with a hypnotic suggestion that if she ever told anyone about her experience she would then have to commit suicide. This is Donna’s story. Join Shane Waters and The Keepers' Gemma Hoskins in this series, along with many of the women and men featured in the the Netflix series. This is an ongoing series. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters, you can find his history podcast Hometown History at https://link.chtbl.com/hometownhistory Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets: https://link.chtbl.com/foulplay Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Investigative Reporter Bob Erlandson sits down with Gemma and Shane to discuss all aspects of Sister Cathy's murder, cover up of abuse, as well as the ongoing events surrounding sexual abuse in Baltimore. Join Shane Waters and The Keepers' Gemma Hoskins in this series, along with many of the women and men featured in the the Netflix series. This is an ongoing series. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters, you can find his history podcast Hometown History at https://link.chtbl.com/hometownhistory Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets: https://link.chtbl.com/foulplay Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Survivor Cindy Lovell suffered for a year and a half of ritual rape and abuse by Father Joseph Maskell while attending Archbishop Keough High School. She had no control, no choice, and those whom she told and asked for help did not believe her. When The Keepers was being filmed she was not quite ready to share her horrific story with the world - but now she is. Join Shane Waters and The Keepers' Gemma Hoskins in this series, along with many of the women and men featured in the the Netflix series. This is an ongoing series. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters, you can find his history podcast Hometown History at https://link.chtbl.com/hometownhistory Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets: https://link.chtbl.com/foulplay Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters sit down with Sharon Schmidt to discuss her family, including her uncle that lived across from Sister Cathy at the time of her murder. Sharon also discusses another bizarre unsolved murder that happened in her family only a couple years after Sister Cathy's murder. Two unsolved murders happening around the same man, is it a coincidence? Join Shane Waters and The Keepers' Gemma Hoskins in this series, along with many of the women and men featured in the the Netflix series. This is an ongoing series. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters, you can find his history podcast Hometown History at https://link.chtbl.com/hometownhistory Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets: https://link.chtbl.com/foulplay Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Was the unsolved murder of Sister Cathy to protect the secret of a giant pedophile ring of abuser catholic priests and police officers in Baltimore? Some of this investigation was featured on the Netflix documentary series The Keepers - but here we continue to work on Cathy's case and uncover more of the true events surrounding the abuse and coverup. Join Shane Waters and The Keepers' Gemma Hoskins in this series, along with many of the women and men featured in the the Netflix series. This is an ongoing series. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Join Shane and Gemma as they discuss the final victim of the Redhead Murders, Summarize what we know so far, and end the series with a very promising update and lead! *** Listen to the Follow-up season to the Redhead Murders - The Throwaways! *** Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Shane discusses the very first victim thought to be linked to the Redhead Murders found in Wetzel County, West Virginia. Also in on the discussion is grassroots amateur investigator featured on Netflix’s Docu-Series The Keepers - Gemma Hoskins, along with Kayla Vandeventer who was a student in Teacher Alex’s high school sociology class featured previously in the series. Could a trucker navigate the winding road this Jane Doe was found off of? Could this victim be related although she was older than all the others? With numerous female victims, this series of murders remains an unsolved murder mystery. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Today is Father’s day and two days before my birthday, so I wanted to share with you a special story about a tragedy that happened in my own family. On November 14, 1979, my dad was hit by a drunk driver - after 42 days in a coma he defied the doctors and woke up. My dad, and my family, were never the same again - but the question remains on if some things happen for a reason. If my dad were never in this horrific accident, I never would have been born. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters, you can find his history podcast Hometown History at https://link.chtbl.com/hometownhistory Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets: https://link.chtbl.com/foulplay Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Join Shane as he drives the same route the Bible Belt Strangler took after he picked up the Redheaded Jane Doe from King’’s Truck Stop In Barbourville, Kentucky. You will also hear about the stories of two other redheaded women who were almost kidnapped around the same place and time as our murder victim. Are they related or is it a coincidence? With numerous female victims, this series of murders remains an unsolved murder mystery. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Shane travels again to Elizabethton, Tennessee, to join the high school sociology class at a press conference to tell the world about the Redhead Murders and the Bible Belt Strangler. With numerous female victims, this series of murders remains an unsolved murder mystery. Join host and investigative podcaster, Shane Waters, alongside Netflix Docu-Series The Keepers grassroots investigator Gemma Hoskins as they explore this forgotten serial killer case. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Join Shane as he travels to Barbourville, Kentucky to trace the steps the Bible Belt Strangler made when he killed an innocent victim along 25E. With numerous female victims, this series of murders remains an unsolved murder mystery. Join host and investigative podcaster, Shane Waters, alongside Netflix The Keepers grassroots investigator Gemma Hoskins as they explore this forgotten serial killer case. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters, you can find his history podcast Hometown History at https://link.chtbl.com/hometownhistory Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets: https://link.chtbl.com/foulplay Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Traveling to Elizabethton, Tennessee, Shane speaks with a Sociology class at Elizabethton High School about the Redhead Murders. This semester they have been challenged by their teacher to study and report on the Redhead Murders. After discovering my podcast, I traveled to their school to hear about the work they have done so far. On this episode, you hear from these students as they read to you their 8-page Profile of the person responsible for these murders. To express that we all do believe that these six women were victims of a serial killer, I challenged the class to give him a name. The Bible Belt Strangler. With numerous female victims, this series of murders remains an unsolved murder mystery. Join host and investigative podcaster, Shane Waters, alongside Netflix’s Docu-Series The Keepers grassroots investigator Gemma Hoskins as they explore this forgotten serial killer case. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

In our third installment in the series on the the Unsolved Redhead Murders, you hear from a young lady that believes the Jane Doe found murdered inside a fridge in 1985 Barbourville, Kentucky, is her mother. With numerous female victims, this series of murders remains an unsolved murder mystery. Bruce Jenkins was working at Union 76 truck stop in Kentucky when he saw the redheaded woman who would later be known as the Knox County Kentucky Jane Doe. He noticed that she was talking to other drivers and one of them gave her money. She got into a cab and left. Join host and investigative podcaster Shane Waters, alongside Netflix's The Keepers grassroots investigator Gemma Hoskins as they explore this forgotten serial killer case. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

This is the second episode in our series on the Redhead Murders. With numerous female victims, this series of murders remains an unsolved murder mystery. Shane visits the site where the victim covered in episode one was found, and Gemma Hoskins joins the podcast to help find answers to who these women are and who is responsible for their murders. In the late 1970s and early 1980s, a string of murders of young women took place in the southeastern United States. The victims were all found on the side of highways, and most were never identified. The case remains unsolved, but one possible suspect is a woman named Nichols, who was known to be a drug addict and sex worker. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

With numerous female victims, this series of murders remains an unsolved murder mystery. This introduction episode will tell you a little about the Redhead Murders, which was investigated by the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation (TBI) initially thirty years ago. In 1985, the body of Lisa Ann Jarvis was found on an Interstate 40 entrance ramp in West Memphis, Arkansas. Also known as Lisa Ann Nichols and Lisa Ann Fuller, she had a long criminal record of prostitution, shoplifting, larceny, robbery, and drugs. The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation included Jarvis's body on a list of those under investigation as possibly part of serial killings. On Sunday, September 16, 1984, a hitchhiker discovered her body among the trash. Sergeant Raymond Buchana, a Metro Vice squad officer, said, her rap sheet stretches from the ceiling to the floor three times. Authorities were not sure if one person was responsible for the killings or how many victims there might be, but Jarvis's identification as one of the eight redhead murder victims seemed to be consistent with what they thought in the beginning. The police officer remarked that she had the second-largest prostitution record in the city of Nashville, and that she had a drug habit worse than his car has a gasoline habit. This language dehumanizes Lisa and makes it seem like she deserved to die because of her lifestyle. ** The Throwaways Season is an update to this season!! ** Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

In the case of Alvira Johnson and her seven children, it is unclear whether they were murdered or if they met their untimely end in an accident. Either way, their story is one that should be remembered. Alvira and Albin Johnson married around 1923, against her parents' wishes. Albin was 36 and Alvira was only 19. Both were born to Swedish immigrants and Albin was described as a typical farmer in the woods. He was strong and could always be seen wearing blue overalls. The couple had seven children together.  Albin and Alvira Johnson were a poor family in the Great Depression. They had seven children together and were rumored to be expecting another. Their friendliness and lack of resources were well-known around their town. One day, their 10-year-old son, Harold, came home from playing with a friend and told his mother that he had eaten too much while at their house. She scolded him, but he didn't understand why Santa never left them anything at Christmas. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters, you can find his history podcast Hometown History at https://link.chtbl.com/hometownhistory Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets: https://link.chtbl.com/foulplay Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Charlie and Mavis McCloud are installing a new septic tank on their rural property in Canada. They found an old septic tank on the property and decided to use it. However, when they opened it, they found a human body inside. The body was wearing a gray wool sock and a brown shoe, and it appeared to be attached to a leg. In 1977, a couple in the small Canadian community of Tofield discovered a body in a septic tank. The body was wrapped in a yellow blanket and tied up with nylon, with no ID or indication of sex. After a lengthy autopsy, it was determined that the person was a white or native man who had been brutally beaten, burned, sexually mutilated, and shot before being dumped in the septic tank. A man's body was discovered in a septic tank on a farm in Canada. The body was well preserved, and it was later determined that the man was male, had all of his teeth, and had recently had dental work done. The man's identity remains unknown. In 1948 or 1949, a man known only as Sam was brutally murdered and his body was dumped in a septic tank on an abandoned farmhouse. The RCMP believe that Sam was a laborer and possibly a transient, and that the killer was someone local who knew him. The case remains unsolved and Sam's identity is still unknown. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters, you can find his history podcast Hometown History at https://link.chtbl.com/hometownhistory Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets: https://link.chtbl.com/foulplay Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

While exploring an old museum in Wabash, Indiana - Shane discovers the old basement holds a secret. Join Shane as he sits down with a Historian to discuss why there is a box in the basement of the Wabash County Historical Museum that is full of the bones of a mid-1800s serial killer. The Wabash County Historical Museum's collections assistant, TJ Honeycutt, gives a tour of the downstairs area which used to be a mortuary for the Jones funeral home. He describes the atmosphere of the place and how it still looks like a place where dead bodies are prepared. He talks about the murderer John Hubbard and how the world was quite a bit different when this murder took place. There was no cell phone footage or DNA evidence back then. In the 1850s, the town of Wabash was built primarily as a means to and from the Ohio River and Lake Erie. On a farm owned by Isaac Keller, there was a little house called a step up house. The area was called Rich Valley because the soil was particularly rich due to the constant flooding. Aaron French, a former businessman from Cincinnati, moved to the area and attempted to make a living as a tenant farmer. In 1854, two farmers named Aaron French and John Hubbard became friends after John moved into Aaron's one-room house to help him pay the bills. Isaac Keller and Lewis, two of Aaron's other friends, went over to the house one day to find that Aaron and his family were gone. John and his wife told them that a relative had come from Cincinnati the night before and told them to pack up and leave for Iowa, as Aaron's father, a wealthy landowner, had died and left them a fortune. Isaac and Lewis were skeptical, as Aaron was too ill to be transported, but John assured them that he had been given brandy and was dancing on the floor before they knew it. The Hubbards then sold all of Aaron's remaining possessions to Isaac and Lewis for $40 and left for Iowa that night. John Hubbard, his wife, and son live in a house near a canal where Irish workers are employed. They take in a boarder, Ed Boyle, who is also of Celtic origin. After living with the family for four months, Ed Boyle meets with a priest and offers him gold coins in exchange for funeral rights and last rites. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

Catherine Winters was only nine years old when she disappeared from her hometown of New Castle, Indiana on March 20th, 1913. Catherine's disappearance remains the oldest Unsolved Disappearance in the state of Indiana, as well as one of the oldest in the United States. Featuring Author Lisa Perry. Find us online. Support the show by joining our Black Label by becoming a Patron on Patreon. Black Label can also be subscribed to on Apple Podcasts! Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and Facebook. Hosted by Shane Waters. You can find his history podcast Hometown History here. Find Foul Play: Crime Series on all podcasting outlets here. Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!